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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass Guiliani.... |
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:12:33 -0500, Joe wrote
(in article .com): On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): snip I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass There is no clear cut candidate in my view on the republican side. I need to feel things out. On the Democratic side I would right away say that OhWhata salomi has not got a chance. Not even as vice. I like him but I think he is a little Green but not black but not white and not african american. only african. hmmm kind of like cristian and jew the african american and african thing,.and something about muslim kindergarten. He is not ready ..yet. Hilary is always a favorite. I think I mentioned earlier in another post that I would happily be her page. I choose to respond to this question in 30 days again. I need to take it all in chew it up and spit it in a cup! -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:30:39 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ): Joe wrote: On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass Guiliani.... I think that there is a certain prejudice towards some one that low down the political totem pole. Also he is not presidential material. He did a decent job in NYC. He needs to step down while he is on top. I think I saw something tonight that he had a 100,000.00 speaking engagement. I imagine that would be quite normal in years to come. Just tell the story over and over. -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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. net... On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass I like McCain, and I think he would tend to run a decent campain, but I don't think he's the best choice. I don't know who is the best choice right now. I like Hillary because we would get a two-fer. I like Obama, but he's kinda young. I like Edwards, but I don't know if he can get all the way by actually being honest. I don't like Rudy as President... I think he should have been NYC mayor again. He was a great mayor. Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"katy" wrote in message
... Joe wrote: On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass Guiliani.... Nah... too much baggage... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Mundo wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:30:39 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass Guiliani.... I think that there is a certain prejudice towards some one that low down the political totem pole. Also he is not presidential material. He did a decent job in NYC. He needs to step down while he is on top. I think I saw something tonight that he had a 100,000.00 speaking engagement. I imagine that would be quite normal in years to come. Just tell the story over and over. Then my second choice...Romney... |
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"Mundo" wrote in message . net... On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass I like McCain, and I think he would tend to run a decent campain, but I don't think he's the best choice. I don't know who is the best choice right now. I like Hillary because we would get a two-fer. I like Obama, but he's kinda young. I like Edwards, but I don't know if he can get all the way by actually being honest. I don't like Rudy as President... I think he should have been NYC mayor again. He was a great mayor. Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that loser Granholm... |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass Guiliani.... Nah... too much baggage... HAHAHAHAHA...not as much as Hillary!!!! |
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"katy" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: On Feb 16, 9:56 pm, Mundo wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position. I call Bull****...........who is a better canidate? Joe -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass Guiliani.... Nah... too much baggage... HAHAHAHAHA...not as much as Hillary!!!! Think so... check it out... http://www.nationalreview.com/brookh...0408310033.asp What is Giuliani's baggage as a would-be Republican nominee? You'd need a supertanker to hold it. Begin with the social issues: He would hold the chuppa at gay marriages, and abort late term fetuses himself. David Frum recently suggested in the Wall Street Journal that Giuliani promise to appoint anti-Roe judges to the court. He will never make that promise. He likes abortion, and he is uninterested in legalities. Giuliani has the New York cops' attitude towards guns: Only cops should have them. If you want a .22 to hunt deer, you must be a made man. He also has a New York textbook view of immigration. Let a billion Chinese come. Giuliani wouldn't even teach them English. On economics, he is not positively bad, only unconcerned. His line as mayor was that he would spend term one handling crime, and term two handling taxes and spending. Fred Siegel, the intelligent urbanist, said that was like trying to cross a chasm in two jumps. Good Giuliani economic policies would be random events. Then there is the personal baggage. The last presidential candidate to have had cancer was Paul Tsongas, who lied about being cancer-free in 1992, and who has since died. We know the worst about Giuliani, but how much better is that? Finally there is his ego. Giuliani is a publicity hound, and a bully. He must be on camera, and he must be right. He also has his weird edges, which he cannot conceal (guile is not his strong suit). Get ready for drag acts at the Gridiron Dinner. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "Mundo" wrote in message . net... On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Joe wrote: http://www.johnmccain.com/ Joe no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title... He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country. I like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle. Anyone still recall that early 80s read? -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass I like McCain, and I think he would tend to run a decent campain, but I don't think he's the best choice. I don't know who is the best choice right now. I like Hillary because we would get a two-fer. I like Obama, but he's kinda young. I like Edwards, but I don't know if he can get all the way by actually being honest. I don't like Rudy as President... I think he should have been NYC mayor again. He was a great mayor. Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that loser Granholm... He is courting the religious right... he's the only game in town, since they hate McCain and Rudy. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a very small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They are the right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken, Ward Churchill et. al, ad nauseum. In the same way that the Democrat candidate won't do anything to alienate the far left-wing wackos, the GOP candidate won't alienate the religious right-wing. Both candidates may actually pander to the extremes a little, but each candidate's core message had better be to the center of the country or he's/she's toast on a stick. In other words, Jon, you won't like even your Democrat candidate, because you're a far-leftist and he/she isn't about to speak *only* to you and your ilk. Look what doing that did for John Kerry. You might be wise to get into Ralph Nader's camp. Now there is a genuine left-wing wacko, like yourself. And I mean that in only the nicest possible way. Max |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that loser Granholm... I'm convinced that Michigan deserves what it got. Why in God's name they re-elected Granholm is a complete mystery to me. She's done nothing but drive the state into ruin, bankrupting just about everything, putting public education on the skids, and everything she's proposed so far in her second term sounds more like voodoo politics than reality. She'll have to raise taxes--just about every variety of them--to keep the state from going under. Real estate values are plummeting. No doubt the UAW vote was the deciding factor, but the auto industry in the state has done nothing but decline since she took office, and more plants will be shut down this year. Are those UAW folks just plain idiots? But they voted for her and they're stuck with her for four more years. God have mercy on their souls. Stupid is as stupid does. Max |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Guiliani.... Nah... too much baggage... HAHAHAHAHA...not as much as Hillary!!!! Do what I do, wait till Jon announces who he likes, then vote the opposite. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ |
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"Maxprop" wrote in Are those UAW folks just plain idiots? Yes, the workers are anyways, they vote what they're told to vote and the bosses get payoffs. Scotty |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that loser Granholm... I'm convinced that Michigan deserves what it got. Why in God's name they re-elected Granholm is a complete mystery to me. She's done nothing but drive the state into ruin, bankrupting just about everything, putting public education on the skids, and everything she's proposed so far in her second term sounds more like voodoo politics than reality. She'll have to raise taxes--just about every variety of them--to keep the state from going under. Real estate values are plummeting. No doubt the UAW vote was the deciding factor, but the auto industry in the state has done nothing but decline since she took office, and more plants will be shut down this year. Are those UAW folks just plain idiots? But they voted for her and they're stuck with her for four more years. God have mercy on their souls. Stupid is as stupid does. Max As long as the state keeps looking to Detroit to solve its problems it's going to continue... |
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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
. .. "katy" wrote in message ... Guiliani.... Nah... too much baggage... HAHAHAHAHA...not as much as Hillary!!!! Do what I do, wait till Jon announces who he likes, then vote the opposite. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ I'm tempted, but I won't say it. g -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net... "katy" wrote in message ... Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that loser Granholm... I'm convinced that Michigan deserves what it got. Why in God's name they re-elected Granholm is a complete mystery to me. She's done nothing but drive the state into ruin, bankrupting just about everything, putting public education on the skids, and everything she's proposed so far in her second term sounds more like voodoo politics than reality. She'll have to raise taxes--just about every variety of them--to keep the state from going under. Real estate values are plummeting. No doubt the UAW vote was the deciding factor, but the auto industry in the state has done nothing but decline since she took office, and more plants will be shut down this year. Are those UAW folks just plain idiots? But they voted for her and they're stuck with her for four more years. God have mercy on their souls. Stupid is as stupid does. Max She must be a Democrat! g ----- Max?? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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nk.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a very small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They are the right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken, Ward Churchill et. al, ad nauseum. In the same way that the Democrat candidate won't do anything to alienate the far left-wing wackos, the GOP candidate won't alienate the religious right-wing. Both candidates may actually pander to the extremes a little, but each candidate's core message had better be to the center of the country or he's/she's toast on a stick. In other words, Jon, you won't like even your Democrat candidate, because you're a far-leftist and he/she isn't about to speak *only* to you and your ilk. Look what doing that did for John Kerry. You might be wise to get into Ralph Nader's camp. Now there is a genuine left-wing wacko, like yourself. And I mean that in only the nicest possible way. Max I'm sure you do. g ------ Unfortunately, the RR have a lot more power than their numbers due to some really amazing marketing from the likes of Karl (Actung) Rove and people like him. I'm having trouble finding any of the candidates who are actually pandering to the exteme left... the Chomsky crowd for lack of a better definition. I agree that Moore and others you mention are definitely left of center, but I don't see any of the Dem candidates "cozying up" to them. Most of them are interested in the center game, as are most of the Republican candidates. Romney is particularly attractive to the RR, however, because of his flip-flop on things like abortion rights. And, just so we're clear, I'm not a left-wing wacko. I'm just a liberal on social policies and far more conservative than Bush on economic policies. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Mundo,
I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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On Feb 17, 6:11 am, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a very small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They are the right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken,WardChurchillet. al, ad nauseum. Ward Churchill is a Republican. |
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Katy,
Guilani is a good man. the difference between Guilani and McCain being; Guilani, God & Country as demonstrated with his wife while mayor http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote:
Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage He is an angry man who responds angrily...I prefer to think that we would be better offf without that... |
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Joe wrote:
On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe Just because you're a war hero from a family of war heroes does not mean you ahve the capacity to run this country...there are other things tha must fall into line...and he falls short...he is an angry person...angry+military does not umpress me at all...and it won't go...women for the most part will not vote for him... |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe That's a laugh. Neither one of those men (yuck yuck) is capable of winning the primary. What wins primaries is good looks and moving to the right for Republicans and good looks and moving to the left for Democrats. I rub elbows with the rich and famous in my restaurant on an everyday basis. I know how things work in that world. Neither McCain nor Hillary have what it takes in the looks dept. McCain's too far left for conservatives and Hillary's too far right for liberals. They just won't make it past the primaries. And both are quite unattractive. Nope, I'm Ted Bell and I'm telling you how it will go down. It will be Edwards vs. Romney! Both are attractive and manly looking men. Edwards is an ultra liberal and Romney is ultra conservative. The ladies will swoon and vote in droves. Steaks on the house at Ted's of Beverly Hills if I happen to be wrong. I'm Ted Bell! |
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Well;; After reading the post inASA including mine, I'm so so glad we
have nothing to do with the nominations. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Well;; After reading the post inASA including mine, I'm so so glad we have nothing to do with the nominations. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Excuse me? We have everything to do with the nominations...who do you think does the legwork for their candidates? And contributes the money? And goes door to door campaugning and posting signs in their yards and stickers on their bumpers? If you say that we, the people, have nothing to do with that , then this isn't the USA and we don'y have any rights left to us at all. Shame, Thom. |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Excuse me? We have everything to do with the nominations...who do you think does the legwork for their candidates? PS majors? And contributes the money? The Mob? And goes door to door campaugning and posting signs in their yards and stickers on their bumpers? Nerds and geeks? Capt Scotty |
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:09:01 -0500, Thom Stewart wrote
(in article ): Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage I do not deny he is a good man.. just not presidential... I also think he is the perfect example of the peter principle. The mcCain bus should stop where it is. -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:24:23 -0500, Joe wrote
(in article .com): On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe I really believe that McCain will make a great elder statesman. He can do more good in his present position than to be president. -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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On Feb 17, 5:17 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:31:31 -0500, katy wrote: Joe wrote: On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe Just because you're a war hero from a family of war heroes does not mean you ahve the capacity to run this country...there are other things tha must fall into line...and he falls short...he is an angry person...angry+military does not umpress me at all...and it won't go...women for the most part will not vote for him... McCain's years locked in a cage as a POW damaged him in a way that cannot be repaired. He's mentally unfit to be President. CWM- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just because you would snap like a twig BB don't cast your weakness and fears on others. Some people can go thru hard times.. and come out wiser and stronger. McCain being one. Did you serve our counntry before Harvard or after? Peace Corps maybe...Candy striper? Joe |
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On Feb 17, 7:26 pm, Mundo wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:24:23 -0500, Joe wrote (in article .com): On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe I really believe that McCain will make a great elder statesman. He can do more good in his present position than to be president. -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - McCain will be our next Eisenhower. Joe |
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Katy,
Just keep dreaming. In reality you get to vote for ONE ELECTOR in YOUR STATE. Didn't Bush getting elected teach you anything about Presidential election? The popular Vote means NOTHING!! Our government is a REPUBLIC!! It isn't a Democracy as you apparently believe. A REPUBLIC! Learn about your government. It was formed as a REPUBLIC which is different than a Democracy. It is a democratic Republic but a REPUBLIC it is! You should learn the difference. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Katy, Just keep dreaming. In reality you get to vote for ONE ELECTOR in YOUR STATE. Didn't Bush getting elected teach you anything about Presidential election? The popular Vote means NOTHING!! Our government is a REPUBLIC!! It isn't a Democracy as you apparently believe. A REPUBLIC! Learn about your government. It was formed as a REPUBLIC which is different than a Democracy. It is a democratic Republic but a REPUBLIC it is! You should learn the difference. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Excuse me...we were talking about choosing cadidates, not the actual electoral process.. and I am well aware that we are a republic and not a democracy and how the electoral process works...you are diverting from the original discussion of choosing cadidates to run...and BTW, your voting for an electoral vote IS voting for an individual....so get back on topic..which is choosing candidates to run...and don't take that tone with me... |
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ups.com... On Feb 17, 7:26 pm, Mundo wrote: On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:24:23 -0500, Joe wrote (in article .com): On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Mundo, I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John McCain. I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all thought well of young John. Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at the time. They played by the Rules. Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Well said Thom, Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do. Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country and John has. Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2. It's going to be McCain vs Hillery. Joe I really believe that McCain will make a great elder statesman. He can do more good in his present position than to be president. -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - McCain will be our next Eisenhower. Joe We're going to attack Germany? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do they have?). The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a very small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They are the right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken, Ward Churchill et. al, ad nauseum. In the same way that the Democrat candidate won't do anything to alienate the far left-wing wackos, the GOP candidate won't alienate the religious right-wing. Both candidates may actually pander to the extremes a little, but each candidate's core message had better be to the center of the country or he's/she's toast on a stick. In other words, Jon, you won't like even your Democrat candidate, because you're a far-leftist and he/she isn't about to speak *only* to you and your ilk. Look what doing that did for John Kerry. You might be wise to get into Ralph Nader's camp. Now there is a genuine left-wing wacko, like yourself. And I mean that in only the nicest possible way. Max I'm sure you do. g ------ Unfortunately, the RR have a lot more power than their numbers due to some really amazing marketing from the likes of Karl (Actung) Rove and people like him. I'm having trouble finding any of the candidates who are actually pandering to the exteme left... Edwards. Did you miss the flap over a couple of his campaign workers? Apparently they were posting some highly anti-religious, anti-Catholic rhetoric on a far left blog. When it was brought to Edward's attention, he commented that he'd talk to them but wasn't going to ask them to cease and desist. When the feces hit the fan over the bloggers, they both resigned about 24 hours later. My impression is that Edwards was relying on his workers to quietly fan the flames of left-wing sentiment on the Internet while he preached a more moderate Democrat spiel in front of the cameras. But he got caught. And, just so we're clear, I'm not a left-wing wacko. I'm just a liberal on social policies and far more conservative than Bush on economic policies. When you decide what Bush's economic policies are, please let me know. Max |
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