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Ted Bell February 5th 07 10:57 PM

How many of you believe...
 
that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?

Let's vote!

I'm Ted Bell!



katy February 6th 07 12:14 AM

How many of you believe...
 
Ted Bell wrote:
that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?

Let's vote!

I'm Ted Bell!


Let's not...let's just leave it alone...

Capt. JG February 6th 07 12:26 AM

How many of you believe...
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Ted Bell wrote:
that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?

Let's vote!

I'm Ted Bell!

Let's not...let's just leave it alone...



How insulting! I'm going to report him for this libel. I'm not 55.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Ted Bell February 6th 07 12:34 AM

How many of you believe...
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"katy" wrote in message
...
Ted Bell wrote:
that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?

Let's vote!

I'm Ted Bell!

Let's not...let's just leave it alone...



How insulting! I'm going to report him for this libel. I'm not 55.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




But you are a virgin!

I'm Ted Bell!



Maxprop February 6th 07 01:27 AM

How many of you believe...
 

"Ted Bell" wrote in message
...
that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?

Let's vote!

I'm Ted Bell!


My vote: couldn't care less.

Max



Sam February 6th 07 01:54 AM

How many of you believe...
 
except for his lips and ass-hole.


"Ted Bell" wrote in message
...
:
: But you are a virgin, right?
:
: I'm Ted Bell!
:
:



Scotty February 6th 07 04:04 AM

How many of you believe...
 

"Ted Bell" wrote in
message ...
that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?



not me. I don't think he's that old.

Scotty



CovvTseTung February 6th 07 06:39 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article , Ted Bell says...

that Ganz is a 55+ year old virgin?

Let's vote!


He writes more like 5 than 55

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 6th 07 10:45 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55


I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's got it
down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats against your
ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier to give customers
the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen



CovvTseTung February 7th 07 12:02 AM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55


I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's got it
down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats against your
ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier to give customers
the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen


Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

and it goes on in a similar vein from there...

Cap'n Crunch can whine and bitch all he wants, Chris needs a
good laugh every now and then. Let me x-poast this into the
njazi vjiking froup - they can tell you how many years they've
been trying to get Altopia to shut me down...

|\/| 3 0 \/\/ !!!!1!

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

the Curmudgeon February 7th 07 06:12 AM

How many of you believe...
 
CovvTseTung wrote in
:

In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55


I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats
against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier
to give customers the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen


Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings


Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not the
carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the phone
company, starts regulating content, they then assume responsibility for
that content, and can be held liable for it. So that's why they don't
have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon

Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 03:35 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats
against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier
to give customers the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen


Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings


Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not the
carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the phone
company, starts regulating content, they then assume responsibility for
that content, and can be held liable for it. So that's why they don't
have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon


Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives snitches like Capt. JG
an easy way to find and complain about you to your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't
show my ISP number so it makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.
It's not so bad getting kicked off an news server because there's lots of them. But in
some places there's only one ISP. If you get kicked off you're stuck with no internet
access. this gives people like Capt. JG orgasms. A couple people who used to post to
alt.sailing.asa lost their ISP because of Capt. JG snitching on them. Because they kept
calling him a queer..... I guess it's a hate crime these days. It's sad when you can't hate
those sick immoral freaks. Even God hates them.
People like Capt. JG and Katy have this trick they do. They send e-mails from multiple
computers using multiple names to complain directly to an ISP. Katy sent dozens of these
to databasics about one or more of their subscribers but they caught on because they
aren't a bunch of stupid newbies.
When some ISPs gets flooded with complaints some of them figure they must be legit.
Instead of spending lot's of their valuable time trying to find out if the complaints are
bogus it's easier for them to kick off a subscriber. Then Jonathan Ganz puts some lawsuit
threats in there and they really think a customer isn't worth the trouble. Some ISP's don't
even have a clue what Usenet is. Some snitch says your spamming a newsgroup and they
figure you broke their spam rule....
It'd be nice if all ISPs weren't so stupid but some of them definitely aren't too bright.
"So get one that is bright" people might say. That's all well and good if there's more than
one available but some places you got one and that's it.
Oh, I got called dumb and got put on a dumb list. I answered some post that my answer
went to some other newsgroup and they said it flooded it. Your doing the same thing sending
all the answers to your post just to soc.men. But I checked the headers and found out what
your doing so I changed it to reply to all the news groups it was sent to. Fool me once shame
on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



CovvTseTung February 7th 07 04:05 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45c9f27c$0$97233$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats
against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier
to give customers the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings


Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not the
carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the phone
company, starts regulating content, they then assume responsibility for
that content, and can be held liable for it. So that's why they don't
have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon


Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives snitches like Capt. JG
an easy way to find and complain about you to your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't
show my ISP number so it makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.


You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 04:22 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...



So your saying NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 is a fake? I got it right
off your headers. Mine doesn't have a NNTP posting hosted listed at all....

Cheers,
Ellen

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
...PK




CovvTseTung February 7th 07 04:43 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45c9fcb8$0$97247$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...



So your saying NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 is a fake? I got it right
off your headers. Mine doesn't have a NNTP posting hosted listed at all....



127.0.0.1 is 'localhost', how any computer sees itself.
I could run without an NNTP posting host header at all
(as in this poast), but I prefer to show localhost to
confuse those who are not computer literate. My Gravity
newsreader (in conjunction with Altopia's policies) allows
me to customize headers to fit my needs. Even my Path.
As in this poast. *g*


--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 04:57 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
127.0.0.1 is 'localhost', how any computer sees itself.
I could run without an NNTP posting host header at all
(as in this poast), but I prefer to show localhost to
confuse those who are not computer literate. My Gravity
newsreader (in conjunction with Altopia's policies) allows
me to customize headers to fit my needs. Even my Path.
As in this poast. *g*


Kewl. I can't do any of that with Outlook Express. I think I can do it with XNews.

This is good:
"Path:authen.yellow.readfreenews.net!green.octanew s.net!news-out.octanews.net
!mauve.octanews.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!new shosting.com!news.alt.net!
Capt.JG.the netkkkop.runs.from.the.NOTB!not-for-mail"

Nice that you can fake the path...
Can you tell anything from my path? Path:
authen.yellow.readfreenews.net!green.octanews.net! news-out.octanews.net!indigo.octanews.net!authen.yellow .readfreenews.net.POSTED!not-for-mail

And this is good:

"X-Liberal: When I grew up I learned better"

Attaboy!

Cheers,
Ellen



CovvTseTung February 7th 07 05:19 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca04e4$0$97228$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
127.0.0.1 is 'localhost', how any computer sees itself.
I could run without an NNTP posting host header at all
(as in this poast), but I prefer to show localhost to
confuse those who are not computer literate. My Gravity
newsreader (in conjunction with Altopia's policies) allows
me to customize headers to fit my needs. Even my Path.
As in this poast. *g*


Kewl. I can't do any of that with Outlook Express. I think I can do it with XNews.


Well, OE is a mail client, not a real newsreader, so it has
limits. XNews is very flexible, in some ways even better than
Gravity, but I find the user interface awkward. I do have a
copy loaded for use with my second news feed, for when I really
want to cause a stir.

This is good:
"Path:authen.yellow.readfreenews.net!green.octanew s.net!news-out.octanews.net
!mauve.octanews.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!new shosting.com!news.alt.net!
Capt.JG.the netkkkop.runs.from.the.NOTB!not-for-mail"


I thought you might get a kick out of that. *g* Altopia allows
'pre-loading' the path via your newsreader as long as the
addition is obviously NOT a valid news server.

Nice that you can fake the path...
Can you tell anything from my path? Path:
authen.yellow.readfreenews.net!green.octanews.net! news-out.octanews.net!indigo.octanews.net!authen.yellow .readfreenews.net.POSTED!not-for-mail


I'm familiar with octanews / readfreenews.
Ever hang out in alt.free.newsservers?
Not a bad place to at least monitor.

And this is good:

"X-Liberal: When I grew up I learned better"

Attaboy!


These days I've gone far enough to the right to consider
dubya to be a liberal wimp. The last true conservative
on the American political scene was Saint Goldwater.

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 06:09 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote
127.0.0.1 is your own computer, dumbass. Google "localhost"


:-o~

Cheers,
Ellen



Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 06:21 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
I'm familiar with octanews / readfreenews.
Ever hang out in alt.free.newsservers?
Not a bad place to at least monitor.


I put in on my list of subscribed groups. I'll check it out. Thanks. Never hurts
to know some free news servers in case mine crashes or is down for maintenance, etc.
It's free so you can't even complain when it goes down. But it's been real reliable lately.

These days I've gone far enough to the right to consider
dubya to be a liberal wimp. The last true conservative
on the American political scene was Saint Goldwater.


What a guy! What a guy!
Yup, you got that right. Goldwater was the best. Very inspiring. I wish his son would
start running. But, I don't know if he's just as conservative as his great Dad... President
Bush's not been very conservative, your right. He's better than a Democrat but not
much better. If only he'da been another Reagan at least. But what we really need is
a libertarian. Somebody who the first thing they do is cut big government in half. Then cut
it in half again the second term. The next thing make the armed forces twice as big and go
kick some freaking Islamic fascist terrorist booty.... And while they're doing that close the
freaking borders to all those illegals coming swarming like roaches across. Then legalize
pot. Tax the hell outta it to pay for the big army. People would mellow out and figure they
were getting their moneys worth...

Cheers
Ellen






CovvTseTung February 7th 07 06:33 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca18b2$0$97232$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
I'm familiar with octanews / readfreenews.
Ever hang out in alt.free.newsservers?
Not a bad place to at least monitor.


I put in on my list of subscribed groups. I'll check it out. Thanks. Never hurts
to know some free news servers in case mine crashes or is down for maintenance, etc.
It's free so you can't even complain when it goes down. But it's been real reliable lately.

These days I've gone far enough to the right to consider
dubya to be a liberal wimp. The last true conservative
on the American political scene was Saint Goldwater.


What a guy! What a guy!
Yup, you got that right. Goldwater was the best. Very inspiring. I wish his son would
start running. But, I don't know if he's just as conservative as his great Dad... President
Bush's not been very conservative, your right. He's better than a Democrat but not
much better. If only he'da been another Reagan at least. But what we really need is
a libertarian. Somebody who the first thing they do is cut big government in half. Then cut
it in half again the second term.


While I understand the reason for the sentiment, there is also a
reason gov't has gotten as big as it is. You have to go back to
Roosevelt the First...

The next thing make the armed forces twice as big and go
kick some freaking Islamic fascist terrorist booty....


See, this is why I disagree with the Shrub. There is absolutely
no reason to put America's sons and daughters in harms way. The
oil in the Middle East is generally about two miles deep. Which
means that there is no way it would be adversely affected by a
little bit of radioactivity on the surface. Pull all our troops
out, and turn the whole freaking place into a puddle of glass.

And while they're doing that close the
freaking borders to all those illegals coming swarming like roaches across.


I prefer the solution that got Doug MacArthur fired by Truman

Then legalize pot.


I won't argue with that one.

http://www.surfingdeck.com/notb/star.html

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung February 7th 07 06:37 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca15ca$0$97249$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"Charlie Morgan" wrote
127.0.0.1 is your own computer, dumbass. Google "localhost"


:-o~

Cheers,
Ellen


Classy guy, eh what?

Quite a menagerie in here. I think I should pull up a chair,
I suspect I'll be staying a while.

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 06:40 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
http://www.surfingdeck.com/notb/star.html


Ooh ooh! You really got a green thumb Mr. Tung! You got balls posting that. Aren't
you afraid the narcs'll come after ya?

Cheers,
Ellen



Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 06:42 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
See, this is why I disagree with the Shrub. There is absolutely
no reason to put America's sons and daughters in harms way. The
oil in the Middle East is generally about two miles deep. Which
means that there is no way it would be adversely affected by a
little bit of radioactivity on the surface. Pull all our troops
out, and turn the whole freaking place into a puddle of glass.


Sounds good to me. Make an example outta them. They understand
power. And if they're all dead the ones who're left someplace else won't
wanna mess with us.

I prefer the solution that got Doug MacArthur fired by Truman


Duh, ya lost me....

Cheers,
Ellen



Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 06:44 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
Quite a menagerie in here. I think I should pull up a chair,
I suspect I'll be staying a while.


It's a hoot around here sometimes...

Cheers,
Ellen



the Curmudgeon February 7th 07 07:06 PM

How many of you believe...
 
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article
45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal
threats against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because
it's easier to give customers the boot than defend against
threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings


Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not
the carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the
phone company, starts regulating content, they then assume
responsibility for that content, and can be held liable for it. So
that's why they don't have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon


Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the
IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives
snitches like Capt. JG an easy way to find and complain about you to
your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't show my ISP number so it
makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.
It's not so bad getting kicked off an news server because there's
lots of them. But in
some places there's only one ISP. If you get kicked off you're stuck
with no internet access. this gives people like Capt. JG orgasms. A
couple people who used to post to alt.sailing.asa lost their ISP
because of Capt. JG snitching on them. Because they kept calling him a
queer..... I guess it's a hate crime these days. It's sad when you
can't hate those sick immoral freaks. Even God hates them.
People like Capt. JG and Katy have this trick they do. They send
e-mails from multiple
computers using multiple names to complain directly to an ISP. Katy
sent dozens of these to databasics about one or more of their
subscribers but they caught on because they aren't a bunch of stupid
newbies.
When some ISPs gets flooded with complaints some of them figure
they must be legit.
Instead of spending lot's of their valuable time trying to find out if
the complaints are bogus it's easier for them to kick off a
subscriber. Then Jonathan Ganz puts some lawsuit threats in there and
they really think a customer isn't worth the trouble. Some ISP's don't
even have a clue what Usenet is. Some snitch says your spamming a
newsgroup and they figure you broke their spam rule....
It'd be nice if all ISPs weren't so stupid but some of them
definitely aren't too bright.
"So get one that is bright" people might say. That's all well and good
if there's more than one available but some places you got one and
that's it.
Oh, I got called dumb and got put on a dumb list. I answered some
post that my answer
went to some other newsgroup and they said it flooded it. Your doing
the same thing sending all the answers to your post just to soc.men.
But I checked the headers and found out what your doing so I changed
it to reply to all the news groups it was sent to. Fool me once shame
on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



Trust me Ellen, I know what I'm doing ;-) I've been on the Net for a
long time - I'm from the old school that believes that cross-posting to
unrelated newsgroups is net abuse and trolling - I guess not everyone
sees it that way. I purposely edited my headers before posting, as I am
reading and posting from soc.men. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that many
ISPs aren't too aware of Usenet anymore. I started out my online
"career" as an avid "BBS'er" back when dial-up BBS's were the big thing.
When I first discovered the Internet in about 1992, Usenet basically
*was* the Internet at that time. A little bit different place today....
the majority of Net users today likely use the World Wide Web only, and
don't have a clue as to what Usenet, IRC, Telnet, FTP, etc. are.


the Curmudgeon

the Curmudgeon February 7th 07 07:09 PM

How many of you believe...
 
CovvTseTung wrote in
:

In article 45c9f27c$0$97233$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article
45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup....
He's got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make
legal threats against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard
because it's easier to give customers the boot than defend
against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the
like because they do not consider themselves as editors of content.
They merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the
phone company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do,
but not the carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or
someone like the phone company, starts regulating content, they
then assume responsibility for that content, and can be held liable
for it. So that's why they don't have policies concerning usage or
content.


the Curmudgeon


Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give
the IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives
snitches like Capt. JG an easy way to find and complain about you to
your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't show my ISP number so it
makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.


You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...


You are correct sir - My ISP is actually Cox Cable.......


the Curmudgeon

CovvTseTung February 7th 07 08:56 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca1d13$0$97270$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
http://www.surfingdeck.com/notb/star.html


Ooh ooh! You really got a green thumb Mr. Tung! You got balls posting that. Aren't
you afraid the narcs'll come after ya?


Its legal here - we even ahve a county-issued 'compassionate
use' certificate nailed to the greenhouse door.

All hale Prop 215 four it hace much grateniss!!!!1!

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung February 7th 07 08:59 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca1da8$0$97219$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
See, this is why I disagree with the Shrub. There is absolutely
no reason to put America's sons and daughters in harms way. The
oil in the Middle East is generally about two miles deep. Which
means that there is no way it would be adversely affected by a
little bit of radioactivity on the surface. Pull all our troops
out, and turn the whole freaking place into a puddle of glass.


Sounds good to me. Make an example outta them. They understand
power. And if they're all dead the ones who're left someplace else won't
wanna mess with us.


If'n JFK had done that with Cuba we wouldn't have half the
problems in the world that we're currently facing.


I prefer the solution that got Doug MacArthur fired by Truman


Duh, ya lost me....


During the Korean War, when the ChiComs started flooding south
to aid the North Koreans, General MacArthur wanted to use dirty
nukes to create a 10 mile wide radiation belt across the border.
The Chinese troops could still have crossed, but they would have
dropped dead from radiation poisoning with 72 hours.

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung February 7th 07 09:04 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article , the
Curmudgeon says...

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article
45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal
threats against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because
it's easier to give customers the boot than defend against
threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not
the carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the
phone company, starts regulating content, they then assume
responsibility for that content, and can be held liable for it. So
that's why they don't have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon


Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the
IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives
snitches like Capt. JG an easy way to find and complain about you to
your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't show my ISP number so it
makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.
It's not so bad getting kicked off an news server because there's
lots of them. But in
some places there's only one ISP. If you get kicked off you're stuck
with no internet access. this gives people like Capt. JG orgasms. A
couple people who used to post to alt.sailing.asa lost their ISP
because of Capt. JG snitching on them. Because they kept calling him a
queer..... I guess it's a hate crime these days. It's sad when you
can't hate those sick immoral freaks. Even God hates them.
People like Capt. JG and Katy have this trick they do. They send
e-mails from multiple
computers using multiple names to complain directly to an ISP. Katy
sent dozens of these to databasics about one or more of their
subscribers but they caught on because they aren't a bunch of stupid
newbies.
When some ISPs gets flooded with complaints some of them figure
they must be legit.
Instead of spending lot's of their valuable time trying to find out if
the complaints are bogus it's easier for them to kick off a
subscriber. Then Jonathan Ganz puts some lawsuit threats in there and
they really think a customer isn't worth the trouble. Some ISP's don't
even have a clue what Usenet is. Some snitch says your spamming a
newsgroup and they figure you broke their spam rule....
It'd be nice if all ISPs weren't so stupid but some of them
definitely aren't too bright.
"So get one that is bright" people might say. That's all well and good
if there's more than one available but some places you got one and
that's it.
Oh, I got called dumb and got put on a dumb list. I answered some
post that my answer
went to some other newsgroup and they said it flooded it. Your doing
the same thing sending all the answers to your post just to soc.men.
But I checked the headers and found out what your doing so I changed
it to reply to all the news groups it was sent to. Fool me once shame
on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



Trust me Ellen, I know what I'm doing ;-) I've been on the Net for a
long time -


I took my first programming course in '67 at Dartmouth, and was
on DARPANet at MIT in '69

I'm from the old school that believes that cross-posting to
unrelated newsgroups is net abuse and trolling - I guess not everyone
sees it that way.


There is a difference between abuse 'of' the net, and abuse
'on' the net.

I purposely edited my headers before posting, as I am
reading and posting from soc.men.


froups line restored

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that many
ISPs aren't too aware of Usenet anymore. I started out my online
"career" as an avid "BBS'er" back when dial-up BBS's were the big thing.


I've never run one, but Junior did on his old C-64 in the 80's

When I first discovered the Internet in about 1992, Usenet basically
*was* the Internet at that time. A little bit different place today....
the majority of Net users today likely use the World Wide Web only, and
don't have a clue as to what Usenet, IRC, Telnet, FTP, etc. are.


The last figures I saw credited (or blamed, depending on your
perspective) peer-to-peer file sharing for about 98% of the
global bandwidth usage.

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung February 7th 07 09:07 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca1e21$0$97252$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
Quite a menagerie in here. I think I should pull up a chair,
I suspect I'll be staying a while.


It's a hoot around here sometimes...


Seems like a pretty limited number of regulars

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 10:16 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
During the Korean War, when the ChiComs started flooding south
to aid the North Koreans, General MacArthur wanted to use dirty
nukes to create a 10 mile wide radiation belt across the border.
The Chinese troops could still have crossed, but they would have
dropped dead from radiation poisoning with 72 hours.


They shoulda done something like that. But making everything
radioactive for ten miles times maybe a hundred miles might
pollute the whole earth. But they coulda been sneaky and crop dusted
the whole place with anthrax or something like that.

Cheers,
Ellen



Ellen MacArthur February 7th 07 10:20 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote

Seems like a pretty limited number of regulars


Most of them got so sick of snitches like Ganz that they left years ago. I read
where this group used to be one listed in the top ten for number of posts. But it's
gone down to almost nothing since then because the snitches have nothing to say
interesting and they bore everybody half to death with all their politics and off-
topic stuff. Stuff they snitched on other people for doing BTW.
I think quite a few people lurk or used to lurk...

Cheers,
Ellen



KenPisano February 8th 07 02:02 AM

How many of you believe...
 
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:16:55 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


"CovvTseTung" wrote
During the Korean War, when the ChiComs started flooding south
to aid the North Koreans, General MacArthur wanted to use dirty
nukes to create a 10 mile wide radiation belt across the border.
The Chinese troops could still have crossed, but they would have
dropped dead from radiation poisoning with 72 hours.


They shoulda done something like that. But making everything
radioactive for ten miles times maybe a hundred miles might
pollute the whole earth. But they coulda been sneaky and crop dusted
the whole place with anthrax or something like that.

Cheers,
Ellen



So now we should go from "fighting the terrorists" to "being
the terrorists" . . . is that what you're saying?

Or is it too late already?


CovvTseTung February 8th 07 04:54 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca4fd6$0$97216$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
During the Korean War, when the ChiComs started flooding south
to aid the North Koreans, General MacArthur wanted to use dirty
nukes to create a 10 mile wide radiation belt across the border.
The Chinese troops could still have crossed, but they would have
dropped dead from radiation poisoning with 72 hours.


They shoulda done something like that. But making everything
radioactive for ten miles times maybe a hundred miles might
pollute the whole earth.


The folks who put that theory forward are the same folks that
are trying to sell you 'global warming'.

Where did you think they went after the Cold War ended?


--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung February 8th 07 04:55 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:16:55 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


"CovvTseTung" wrote
During the Korean War, when the ChiComs started flooding south
to aid the North Koreans, General MacArthur wanted to use dirty
nukes to create a 10 mile wide radiation belt across the border.
The Chinese troops could still have crossed, but they would have
dropped dead from radiation poisoning with 72 hours.


They shoulda done something like that. But making everything
radioactive for ten miles times maybe a hundred miles might
pollute the whole earth. But they coulda been sneaky and crop dusted
the whole place with anthrax or something like that.

Cheers,
Ellen



So now we should go from "fighting the terrorists" to "being
the terrorists" . . . is that what you're saying?


History books are written by the winners.


--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung February 8th 07 05:13 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45ca50ae$0$97217$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote

Seems like a pretty limited number of regulars


Most of them got so sick of snitches like Ganz that they left years ago. I read
where this group used to be one listed in the top ten for number of posts. But it's
gone down to almost nothing since then because the snitches have nothing to say
interesting and they bore everybody half to death with all their politics and off-
topic stuff. Stuff they snitched on other people for doing BTW.
I think quite a few people lurk or used to lurk...


I can see where traffic used to be higher. Do you know how to
get Google groups to display the stats on a froup? For he

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sailing.asa/about

You can edit the froup name as needed...

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 8th 07 06:36 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
I can see where traffic used to be higher. Do you know how to
get Google groups to display the stats on a froup? For he

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sailing.asa/about

You can edit the froup name as needed...


Thanks, that's pretty kewl. That Capt. Rob sure spent his whole life posting..
28,829 posts. Wow! He quit last year. Everybody hassled him too much. I think
Capt. JG was netcopping him. At least that's what he said in a couple of posts....

Cheers,
Ellen



CovvTseTung February 9th 07 12:51 AM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45cb6d97$0$97232$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
I can see where traffic used to be higher. Do you know how to
get Google groups to display the stats on a froup? For he

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sailing.asa/about

You can edit the froup name as needed...


Thanks, that's pretty kewl. That Capt. Rob sure spent his whole life posting..
28,829 posts. Wow! He quit last year. Everybody hassled him too much. I think
Capt. JG was netcopping him. At least that's what he said in a couple of posts....


I'm still waiting for him to start 'kkkopping me.

snicker

BTW, I tend to morph fairly often, but as I'm the only member of
the NotB Expats currently active on teh usenetz, if'n you see
'notb' in the headers, its prolly jest little old moi.

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

Ellen MacArthur February 9th 07 04:32 PM

How many of you believe...
 

"CovvTseTung" wrote
I'm still waiting for him to start 'kkkopping me.

snicker

BTW, I tend to morph fairly often, but as I'm the only member of
the NotB Expats currently active on teh usenetz, if'n you see
'notb' in the headers, its prolly jest little old moi.


He probably won't netkkkop you. He's too stupid to be able to find your ISP
and your NSP will tell him to bugger off.... lol If your notb does that mean your a?

Cheers,
Ellen



CovvTseTung February 9th 07 05:54 PM

How many of you believe...
 
In article 45cca256$0$97248$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
I'm still waiting for him to start 'kkkopping me.

snicker

BTW, I tend to morph fairly often, but as I'm the only member of
the NotB Expats currently active on teh usenetz, if'n you see
'notb' in the headers, its prolly jest little old moi.


He probably won't netkkkop you. He's too stupid to be able to find your ISP
and your NSP will tell him to bugger off....


One of these days I need to register a domain name so that I can
put my own abuse addy in my headers. The other folk I know that
have done that really enjoy reading all the complaints that
people like him send in. A good way to ferret out k00ksign.


lol If your notb does that mean your a?


*grin* Haven't heard that one before. Are you a math teacher?
My mother is, and that's the kind of thing she would have
thought of.

NotB - News of the (San Francisco) Bay - was a political
discussion forum on the ACLU's First Amendment 'free speech'
server. Our speech was just a bit too free for those liberals,
and we were banned en masse. So we moved to Usenet where we
could find true freedom of expression. Hence NotB Expats.


--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK


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