In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's got it
down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats against your
ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier to give customers
the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

and it goes on in a similar vein from there...

Cap'n Crunch can whine and bitch all he wants, Chris needs a
good laugh every now and then. Let me x-poast this into the
njazi vjiking froup - they can tell you how many years they've
been trying to get Altopia to shut me down...

|\/| 3 0 \/\/ !!!!1!

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

CovvTseTung wrote in
:

In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats
against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier
to give customers the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not the
carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the phone
company, starts regulating content, they then assume responsibility for
that content, and can be held liable for it. So that's why they don't
have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon

"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats
against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier
to give customers the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not the
carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the phone
company, starts regulating content, they then assume responsibility for
that content, and can be held liable for it. So that's why they don't
have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon

Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives snitches like Capt. JG
an easy way to find and complain about you to your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't
show my ISP number so it makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.
It's not so bad getting kicked off an news server because there's lots of them. But in
some places there's only one ISP. If you get kicked off you're stuck with no internet
access. this gives people like Capt. JG orgasms. A couple people who used to post to
alt.sailing.asa lost their ISP because of Capt. JG snitching on them. Because they kept
calling him a queer..... I guess it's a hate crime these days. It's sad when you can't hate
those sick immoral freaks. Even God hates them.
People like Capt. JG and Katy have this trick they do. They send e-mails from multiple
computers using multiple names to complain directly to an ISP. Katy sent dozens of these
to databasics about one or more of their subscribers but they caught on because they
aren't a bunch of stupid newbies.
When some ISPs gets flooded with complaints some of them figure they must be legit.
Instead of spending lot's of their valuable time trying to find out if the complaints are
bogus it's easier for them to kick off a subscriber. Then Jonathan Ganz puts some lawsuit
threats in there and they really think a customer isn't worth the trouble. Some ISP's don't
even have a clue what Usenet is. Some snitch says your spamming a newsgroup and they
figure you broke their spam rule....
It'd be nice if all ISPs weren't so stupid but some of them definitely aren't too bright.
"So get one that is bright" people might say. That's all well and good if there's more than
one available but some places you got one and that's it.
Oh, I got called dumb and got put on a dumb list. I answered some post that my answer
went to some other newsgroup and they said it flooded it. Your doing the same thing sending
all the answers to your post just to soc.men. But I checked the headers and found out what
your doing so I changed it to reply to all the news groups it was sent to. Fool me once shame
on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

In article 45c9f27c$0$97233$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article 45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal threats
against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because it's easier
to give customers the boot than defend against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not the
carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the phone
company, starts regulating content, they then assume responsibility for
that content, and can be held liable for it. So that's why they don't
have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon

Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives snitches like Capt. JG
an easy way to find and complain about you to your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't
show my ISP number so it makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.

You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

"CovvTseTung" wrote
You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...


So your saying NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 is a fake? I got it right
off your headers. Mine doesn't have a NNTP posting hosted listed at all....

Cheers,
Ellen

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
...PK

In article 45c9fcb8$0$97247$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...


So your saying NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 is a fake? I got it right
off your headers. Mine doesn't have a NNTP posting hosted listed at all....


127.0.0.1 is 'localhost', how any computer sees itself.
I could run without an NNTP posting host header at all
(as in this poast), but I prefer to show localhost to
confuse those who are not computer literate. My Gravity
newsreader (in conjunction with Altopia's policies) allows
me to customize headers to fit my needs. Even my Path.
As in this poast. *g*


--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK

"CovvTseTung" wrote
127.0.0.1 is 'localhost', how any computer sees itself.
I could run without an NNTP posting host header at all
(as in this poast), but I prefer to show localhost to
confuse those who are not computer literate. My Gravity
newsreader (in conjunction with Altopia's policies) allows
me to customize headers to fit my needs. Even my Path.
As in this poast. *g*

Kewl. I can't do any of that with Outlook Express. I think I can do it with XNews.

This is good:
"Path:authen.yellow.readfreenews.net!green.octanew s.net!news-out.octanews.net
!mauve.octanews.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!new shosting.com!news.alt.net!
Capt.JG.the netkkkop.runs.from.the.NOTB!not-for-mail"

Nice that you can fake the path...
Can you tell anything from my path? Path:
authen.yellow.readfreenews.net!green.octanews.net! news-out.octanews.net!indigo.octanews.net!authen.yellow .readfreenews.net.POSTED!not-for-mail

And this is good:

"X-Liberal: When I grew up I learned better"

Attaboy!

Cheers,
Ellen

CovvTseTung wrote in
:

In article 45c9f27c$0$97233$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article
45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup....
He's got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make
legal threats against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard
because it's easier to give customers the boot than defend
against threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the
like because they do not consider themselves as editors of content.
They merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the
phone company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do,
but not the carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or
someone like the phone company, starts regulating content, they
then assume responsibility for that content, and can be held liable
for it. So that's why they don't have policies concerning usage or
content.


the Curmudgeon

Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give
the IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives
snitches like Capt. JG an easy way to find and complain about you to
your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't show my ISP number so it
makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.

You really need to learn to read headers, Ellen. Mr C is /not/
posting thru Altopia, I am. And you won't find a valid posting
host IP in my poasts. The best way to determine which service
somebody posts thru is via the 'Path' header. In Mr C's case it
shows he's poasting thru highwinds-media.com, which IIRC is the
NSP that his ISP (Cox) has contracted with for news service.
Most ISPs have outsourced their nntp feeds these days...


You are correct sir - My ISP is actually Cox Cable.......


the Curmudgeon

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article
45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal
threats against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because
it's easier to give customers the boot than defend against
threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not
the carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the
phone company, starts regulating content, they then assume
responsibility for that content, and can be held liable for it. So
that's why they don't have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon

Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the
IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives
snitches like Capt. JG an easy way to find and complain about you to
your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't show my ISP number so it
makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.
It's not so bad getting kicked off an news server because there's
lots of them. But in
some places there's only one ISP. If you get kicked off you're stuck
with no internet access. this gives people like Capt. JG orgasms. A
couple people who used to post to alt.sailing.asa lost their ISP
because of Capt. JG snitching on them. Because they kept calling him a
queer..... I guess it's a hate crime these days. It's sad when you
can't hate those sick immoral freaks. Even God hates them.
People like Capt. JG and Katy have this trick they do. They send
e-mails from multiple
computers using multiple names to complain directly to an ISP. Katy
sent dozens of these to databasics about one or more of their
subscribers but they caught on because they aren't a bunch of stupid
newbies.
When some ISPs gets flooded with complaints some of them figure
they must be legit.
Instead of spending lot's of their valuable time trying to find out if
the complaints are bogus it's easier for them to kick off a
subscriber. Then Jonathan Ganz puts some lawsuit threats in there and
they really think a customer isn't worth the trouble. Some ISP's don't
even have a clue what Usenet is. Some snitch says your spamming a
newsgroup and they figure you broke their spam rule....
It'd be nice if all ISPs weren't so stupid but some of them
definitely aren't too bright.
"So get one that is bright" people might say. That's all well and good
if there's more than one available but some places you got one and
that's it.
Oh, I got called dumb and got put on a dumb list. I answered some
post that my answer
went to some other newsgroup and they said it flooded it. Your doing
the same thing sending all the answers to your post just to soc.men.
But I checked the headers and found out what your doing so I changed
it to reply to all the news groups it was sent to. Fool me once shame
on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



Trust me Ellen, I know what I'm doing ;-) I've been on the Net for a
long time - I'm from the old school that believes that cross-posting to
unrelated newsgroups is net abuse and trolling - I guess not everyone
sees it that way. I purposely edited my headers before posting, as I am
reading and posting from soc.men. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that many
ISPs aren't too aware of Usenet anymore. I started out my online
"career" as an avid "BBS'er" back when dial-up BBS's were the big thing.
When I first discovered the Internet in about 1992, Usenet basically
*was* the Internet at that time. A little bit different place today....
the majority of Net users today likely use the World Wide Web only, and
don't have a clue as to what Usenet, IRC, Telnet, FTP, etc. are.


the Curmudgeon

In article , the
Curmudgeon says...

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"the Curmudgeon" wrote ...
CovvTseTung wrote In article
45c9050d$0$97260$892e7fe2
@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net, Ellen MacArthur says...


"CovvTseTung" wrote
He writes more like 5 than 55

I bet he snitches on you for saying that.... He's the most
prolific netcop
ever to disgrace this newsgroup or probably any newsgroup.... He's
got it down to a science. Watch your step or he'll make legal
threats against your ISP and they'll throw you overboard because
it's easier to give customers the boot than defend against
threatened lawsuits.

Cheers,
Ellen

Thanks for the head's up, but I chose my NSP specifically
because Chris Caputo (the owner) doesn't cave in or scare
easily. Have you ever looked at Altopia's acceptable use
policy? At $6 per month its cheap insurance against
fjuckkkheaded netkkkops like the 'Captain'.

from https://www.altopia.com/polfaq.html :

Q: What if I don't like one of your customers or what they are
saying on Usenet? Will you delete them for me if I complain
enough?

A: No.

Q: One of your users is harassing me. What should I do?

A: You should probably ask them to stop or try to ignore them.

Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings?

A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings

Most ISPs don't have a policy against off-topic postings and the like
because they do not consider themselves as editors of content. They
merely provide a connection and connectivity, much like the phone
company. You can sue an individual for what they say and do, but not
the carrier service. Once a carrier, be it an ISP or someone like the
phone company, starts regulating content, they then assume
responsibility for that content, and can be held liable for it. So
that's why they don't have policies concerning usage or content.


the Curmudgeon

Hi, Mr. Curmudgeon. Altopia would be better if it didn't give the
IP number in the
headers. Since they give the IP number (your post has it) it gives
snitches like Capt. JG an easy way to find and complain about you to
your ISP. The news server I'm using doesn't show my ISP number so it
makes it so netcops can only complain to the news server.
It's not so bad getting kicked off an news server because there's
lots of them. But in
some places there's only one ISP. If you get kicked off you're stuck
with no internet access. this gives people like Capt. JG orgasms. A
couple people who used to post to alt.sailing.asa lost their ISP
because of Capt. JG snitching on them. Because they kept calling him a
queer..... I guess it's a hate crime these days. It's sad when you
can't hate those sick immoral freaks. Even God hates them.
People like Capt. JG and Katy have this trick they do. They send
e-mails from multiple
computers using multiple names to complain directly to an ISP. Katy
sent dozens of these to databasics about one or more of their
subscribers but they caught on because they aren't a bunch of stupid
newbies.
When some ISPs gets flooded with complaints some of them figure
they must be legit.
Instead of spending lot's of their valuable time trying to find out if
the complaints are bogus it's easier for them to kick off a
subscriber. Then Jonathan Ganz puts some lawsuit threats in there and
they really think a customer isn't worth the trouble. Some ISP's don't
even have a clue what Usenet is. Some snitch says your spamming a
newsgroup and they figure you broke their spam rule....
It'd be nice if all ISPs weren't so stupid but some of them
definitely aren't too bright.
"So get one that is bright" people might say. That's all well and good
if there's more than one available but some places you got one and
that's it.
Oh, I got called dumb and got put on a dumb list. I answered some
post that my answer
went to some other newsgroup and they said it flooded it. Your doing
the same thing sending all the answers to your post just to soc.men.
But I checked the headers and found out what your doing so I changed
it to reply to all the news groups it was sent to. Fool me once shame
on you. Fool me twice shame on me. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



Trust me Ellen, I know what I'm doing ;-) I've been on the Net for a
long time -

I took my first programming course in '67 at Dartmouth, and was
on DARPANet at MIT in '69

I'm from the old school that believes that cross-posting to
unrelated newsgroups is net abuse and trolling - I guess not everyone
sees it that way.

There is a difference between abuse 'of' the net, and abuse
'on' the net.

I purposely edited my headers before posting, as I am
reading and posting from soc.men.

froups line restored

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that many
ISPs aren't too aware of Usenet anymore. I started out my online
"career" as an avid "BBS'er" back when dial-up BBS's were the big thing.

I've never run one, but Junior did on his old C-64 in the 80's

When I first discovered the Internet in about 1992, Usenet basically
*was* the Internet at that time. A little bit different place today....
the majority of Net users today likely use the World Wide Web only, and
don't have a clue as to what Usenet, IRC, Telnet, FTP, etc. are.

The last figures I saw credited (or blamed, depending on your
perspective) peer-to-peer file sharing for about 98% of the
global bandwidth usage.

--

"Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
....PK