On Jan 24, 7:06 am, Jeff wrote:
Wouldn't you have a problem if you sailed away from a
situation where there was loss of life?


Good question Jeff, I wondered the same. As a salvor on location it
would seem you would have to stay while there is any risk to life.
However if the boat vessel refuses help and you feel you are in risk by
staying, then I.m sure you have the right and duty to save your vessel
and crew.


The problem with a Lloyd's contract is that the arbitration must be
done in London under British laws, at the likely expense of the boat
owner. Any small boat salvor who requires it in the US is not to be
trusted.

I'm sure there are 100's of lawers that work for non-english companies
all the time. I also imagine Lloyds is fair, faster, and deals with
99.9 percent of the worlds salvor atributions.

The difference of our opinion's probly arise because we are thinking
on different levels.

First I've never pull a salvage contract on any persons personal boat,
unless it's big enough to needs Lloyds insurance, and is manned with
professional crew.

In the gulf I would look for cargo ships, tankers, containers,
crewboats, supplyboats, helo's, siesmic boats and cables, shrimpboats,
snapper boats, long liners, barges and such.

In 1983 we found a 2.5 miles long seismic cable. It was lost in a
storm by one of the Quest boats. I was an AB at the time. We spent 5
hrs flaking it on deck of the Point Barrow (225 ft supply boat) with a
tugger. My next paycheck had a 1,500 dollar bonus, the OS got 1000, the
mate got 3000, and the Capt got 6000.

We were all very pleased until we found out the company got 1.5
million for the cable.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
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We were all very pleased until we found out the company
got 1.5
million for the cable.


Sounds generous to me, if you were an employee.

Scotty

On Jan 24, 8:33 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in ooglegroups.com..
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We were all very pleased until we found out the company
got 1.5
million for the cable.Sounds generous to me, if you were an employee.

Scotty

I would consider 50% generous and 33.3% to be divided by the crew
fair, less than 1% for the entire crew ****ty. We were under no
obligation to salvage.

We all swore if it happened again, we would all quit, rent a semi
truck off load at a city dock, and sell it ourself's. Chances of
finding two cables are like finding two needles in a hay stack ;0(

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...


We were all very pleased until we found out the
company
got 1.5
million for the cable.Sounds generous to me, if you
were an employee.

Scotty

I would consider 50% generous and 33.3% to be divided by
the crew
fair, less than 1% for the entire crew ****ty. We were
under no
obligation to salvage.


When the boat gets damaged, do you pay for 33% of the repair
bill?

Scotty

On Jan 24, 10:26 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in glegroups.com...



We were all very pleased until we found out the
company
got 1.5
million for the cable.Sounds generous to me, if you
were an employee.

Scotty

I would consider 50% generous and 33.3% to be divided by
the crew
fair, less than 1% for the entire crew ****ty. We were
under no
obligation to salvage.When the boat gets damaged, do you pay for 33% of the repair
bill?

We are not talking about our job, or the work we were hired to do. We
went above and beyond for the company. It was a windfall for the
company due to our extra efforts. If I handed you a 1.5 million
dollars, because when I was driving your truck, I picked up howard
hughes hitchhicking ...how much would you give me? Keep in mind I did
not have to tell you squat.

Joe





Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...



We are not talking about our job, or the work we were
hired to do. We
went above and beyond for the company. It was a windfall
for the
company due to our extra efforts. If I handed you a 1.5
million
dollars, because when I was driving your truck, I picked
up howard
hughes hitchhicking ...how much would you give me? Keep in
mind I did
not have to tell you squat.


mmmm, prolly about 50k. You should be grateful you got
anything.


Scotty

On Jan 24, 1:59 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in oglegroups.com...



We are not talking about our job, or the work we were
hired to do. We
went above and beyond for the company. It was a windfall
for the
company due to our extra efforts. If I handed you a 1.5
million
dollars, because when I was driving your truck, I picked
up howard
hughes hitchhicking ...how much would you give me? Keep in
mind I did
not have to tell you squat.mmmm, prolly about 50k. You should be grateful you got
anything.

cheap *******!

Joe

Scotty

Joe wrote:

On Jan 24, 8:33 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in ooglegroups.com..
.



We were all very pleased until we found out the company
got 1.5
million for the cable.Sounds generous to me, if you were an employee.

Scotty

I would consider 50% generous and 33.3% to be divided by the crew
fair, less than 1% for the entire crew ****ty. We were under no
obligation to salvage.

Jeeze Joe, you live in the most litigious country on the planet, you
should have sued. Just because you used company equipment, and did it on
company time, shouldn't mean that the company owns what you recovered.
Try using that argument on De Beers.

Cheers
Marty

On Jan 24, 11:34 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:

On Jan 24, 8:33 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in ooglegroups.com..
.

We were all very pleased until we found out the company
got 1.5
million for the cable.Sounds generous to me, if you were an employee.

Scotty

I would consider 50% generous and 33.3% to be divided by the crew
fair, less than 1% for the entire crew ****ty. We were under no
obligation to salvage.Jeeze Joe, you live in the most litigious country on the planet, you
should have sued. Just because you used company equipment, and did it on
company time, shouldn't mean that the company owns what you recovered.
Try using that argument on De Beers.

I never said we were owed anything.

However if I owned any equipment, that in the regular course of work my
operators found a way to give me, or my company 1.5 million dollars out
of the blue without any extra wear or tear on my equipment, because
they went the extra mile...I would reward them very well for thier
efforts. What comes around goes around. I understand many people do not
think this way...

Joe




Cheers
Marty- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Joe wrote:


However if I owned any equipment, that in the regular course of work my
operators found a way to give me, or my company 1.5 million dollars out
of the blue without any extra wear or tear on my equipment, because
they went the extra mile...I would reward them very well for thier
efforts. What comes around goes around. I understand many people do not
think this way...

I agree with you Joe, if everyone thought and acted that way we wouldn't
need unions!

Cheers
Marty