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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Maxprop" wrote Most psychopaths understand the immorality of what they do. That's documented fact, not opinion. They do it anyway, because they want to, or because it gets them off. Gays, OTOH, don't see themselves as doing wrong. Your statement above is ludicrous, Neal. Duh! It's Ellen. Sure, whatever you say, Neal. And you need to use a dictionary once in a while, Maxprop. A psycopath's a mentally ill person who has little or no conscience. Look it up, dude! I have, but not in your Funk and Wagnalls, like you. My knowledge is based upon medical periodicals and texts. Psychopaths most often *do* comprehend the wrongness of their acts. It's their lack of normal inhibition that brands them 'psychologically abnormal.' Homosexuals claim to be mentally healthy. So that means you should excuse a psychopath because they're mentally ill. Not in my vernacular. If I had any say in the matter, the so-called "insanity defense" wouldn't exist in our legal system. But, you shouldn't excuse a homosexual because they're rational and can understand morality. It's immoral to have sex with somebody the same sex as you are. You deny God when you do it. Perhaps *they* deny God. It's their decision, and it's perfectly legal. It's hardly acceptable for anyone to commit crimes and other immoral acts that affect others. Such crimes and acts have victims, and there are laws prohibiting them. But gays commit no crimes and have no victims, only willing participants who don't see themselves as commiting immoral acts. Like Scotty said in his post down there, lots of crimes have no victim. Smoking pot, doing LSD like homosexual ganz, and even most white collar crime. Are you really that stupid? White collar crime has no victims? Enron stockholders might disagree. Duh! But, homosexuality is an immoral act that definitly affects others. How so? If sex acts between consenting adults in private are considered legal, who's the victim? You may find homosexuality immoral, but they don't. And as long as no laws prohibit their activities, they are free to continue, despite your protestations. Murderers, rapists, child predators, thieves, and such are not free to continue, despite the tendency of liberal court decisions which would seem to indicate otherwise. *They* don't get to decide. Duh! If I don't think having sex with a dog is immoral is it OK to do it. Knock yourself out, Neal, but please don't tell us about your canine escapades. There's no victim by your stupid reasoning. But, it's illegal because society is the victim. Really? How so? Better think about this before answering, because you've got both feet in your mouth currently, and despite the humongous amount of excess space in there, it's getting crowded. Lot's of laws are written to protect society. It doesn't just protect individuals. Your not thinking very clear. But no liberals ever do think clear. Wow. I wish Doug were here to see me accused of being a liberal. Must be some sort of a watershed moment on ASA. Fascists pass all sorts of laws to "protect society," but more often than not they infringe upon or completely obviate individual rights. And you've still not elucidated on whom is victimized by gays. The vast majority of AIDS cases are spread heterosexually. Do a google search of AIDS in Africa. It had to get started. I said got started. It got started by homosexual men. That's a fact. Yes, it is. But the WHO (that would be the World Health Organization, since you've probably never heard of it) has stated without reservation that HIV would have shown up in the heterosexual population of the Third World had the few male prostitutes from Haiti not contracted it first. So do IV drug abusers. But neither druggies nor gays spread it to you. So why are you bitching? Aren't you pleased that many of them die of the disease? Duh, I'm bitching because their sins and immoral behavior cost society greatly. How would you like it if you had to have a transfusion and got AIDS or HepC from it. It's happened you know. Not in over a decade and a half. All blood and blood products are screened for those viruses now. I wish all homosexuals would repent. Those who don't will surely die (as in not have eternal life) God tells us that. God likely forgives them, despite that you never will. Ever think about the idea that perhaps God finds your hatred of a segment of your fellow man to be a greater sin than homosexuality? It would be rather humorous to find you crossing the River Styx while the gays were showing up at the Pearly Gates, eh? Dress lightly, Neal. BFD. What possible damage to society would that have? While it might assault your own personal sensibilities, it won't have any overriding impact on society as a whole. It does too. Marriage is an important thing for a healthy society. It all has to do with raising children in a proper and moral way. Anything you do that weakens that institution makes society sicker. Immorality probably does have a deleterious effect upon society. But as I said before, most gays and many straights don't find homosexuality to be immoral. Abberant, perhaps, but not immoral. You seem to forget that the Bible was penned in a period when the perpetuation of the human race was not a given. Procreation was encouranged, and since gays could not procreate, a rational argument could be made that homosexuality was deemed immoral in order to promote procreation. If the Bible were written today, the take on gays might be somewhat different. Homosexuality is reality. Are you planning to shelter kids in order to keep them from learning about an existing part of the world? There is no evidence that gays promote homosexuality in kids to the point of converting those who might otherwise become hetero. That's the stupidest thing you kumbayah idiots say. "There's no evidence that homosexuals promote homosexuality in kids." Kid's don't even know the meaning of the word homosexual. They have to learn it. Who better to learn it from than a homosexual Duh. Homosexuals claim they can't help it. They were born that way. So if homosexuals don't procreate like you say then where do they come from? They get their parent's genes. So their parents were closet homosexuals? Nope. Homosexuality is learned behavior and a choice it's proven kids learn from their parents. Duh. Shot you down, mr. genious. This last paragraph was so incredibly fraught with inaccuracy, bigotry, BS, and outright idiocy that it would take too long to refute. Max |
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