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Stu January 20th 07 11:38 AM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one is
the right one?

/Stu




Edgar January 20th 07 02:08 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 

"Stu" wrote in message
...
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one is
the right one?

/Stu


This seems to be a symbol peculiar to USA since it does not appear in my
British or my Norwegian lists of symbols and abbreviations for charts.
Older charts here have the notation PD (position doubtful) and more recent
ones PA (position approximate). However these abbreviations imply that the
beacon (or whatever) does exist but its position is not guaranteed. You must
therefore bear in mind that your ? symbol might also imply that the very
existence of the object is doubtful.
So give that spot a wide berth unless you can see the thing!




Jeff January 20th 07 02:18 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 
Stu wrote:
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.


I don't know; there are certainly a number of underwater features that
are considered questionable, but its harder to imagine a beacon being
in the category, unless its privately maintained. Since many of us
have access to "charts of the world" it might help if you told us what
chart this is actually on, or at least which country and era. Also,
the full notation would be helpful.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one is
the right one?


It depends on what type of answer you want. rec.boats.cruising has a
larger number of folks who have done world wide cruising.

Jeff January 20th 07 02:41 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 
Stu wrote:
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one is
the right one?

/Stu





One more thing - here's a link to the "Chart Number 1" which lists all
of the symbols use in the US, and many international symbols.
http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/chart1/chart1hr.htm

I looked at some parts for a "?" and none were listed.

Ellen MacArthur January 20th 07 04:11 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 

"Stu" wrote
Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with i.e. a beacon symbol.


That's easy. I'm surprised the *experts* here didn't know. It means the
reliability of the light is in question. Some lights are in dis-repair more than
they're in repair.

Cheers,
Ellen



Stu January 20th 07 09:57 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 
Hello again!

Thank you all for your efforts and prompt answers to my inquiry. It was
however a complete failure, and here is why: What came out as a
"questionmark" was meant to be something entirely different. What I meant to
put in there is a Greek letter (the 12th letter in the Greek alphabet)
generally used to indicate "micro" in various engineering applications.

So, with this, new, description of the symbol, can anyone describe its
meaning when found in a sea chart in connection with, i.e., a beacon?

/Stu



"Stu" skrev i meddelandet
...
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one is
the right one?

/Stu






Jeff January 20th 07 11:21 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 
Oh, that's easy. Its a Greek chart! What do I win?

Seriously, is there some reason why you can't tell us what chart this
is on? It isn't a standard symbol on US charts, in fact I don't
recall ever seeing "non-English" characters on a US chart.



Stu wrote:
Hello again!

Thank you all for your efforts and prompt answers to my inquiry. It was
however a complete failure, and here is why: What came out as a
"questionmark" was meant to be something entirely different. What I meant to
put in there is a Greek letter (the 12th letter in the Greek alphabet)
generally used to indicate "micro" in various engineering applications.

So, with this, new, description of the symbol, can anyone describe its
meaning when found in a sea chart in connection with, i.e., a beacon?

/Stu



"Stu" skrev i meddelandet
...
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one is
the right one?

/Stu






Maxprop January 21st 07 06:24 AM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Stu" wrote
Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination with
i.e. a beacon symbol.


That's easy. I'm surprised the *experts* here didn't know. It means
the
reliability of the light is in question. Some lights are in dis-repair
more than
they're in repair.


This from the same 'person' who talks of "pulleys?"

You're busted, Neal. Give it up.

Max



Stu January 21st 07 09:45 AM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 
It is a Swedish chart. Sweden uses the "Chart number 1" symbolic scheme for
its charts. I too have never seen any "non-English" characters on a chart
from the western world before. That's why I am puzzled and that is also the
reason for my question.

/Stu

"Jeff" skrev i meddelandet
. ..
Oh, that's easy. Its a Greek chart! What do I win?

Seriously, is there some reason why you can't tell us what chart this is
on? It isn't a standard symbol on US charts, in fact I don't recall ever
seeing "non-English" characters on a US chart.



Stu wrote:
Hello again!

Thank you all for your efforts and prompt answers to my inquiry. It was
however a complete failure, and here is why: What came out as a
"questionmark" was meant to be something entirely different. What I meant
to put in there is a Greek letter (the 12th letter in the Greek alphabet)
generally used to indicate "micro" in various engineering applications.

So, with this, new, description of the symbol, can anyone describe its
meaning when found in a sea chart in connection with, i.e., a beacon?

/Stu



"Stu" skrev i meddelandet
...
Hello

Does anybody out there know what the prefix "?" means in combination
with i.e. a beacon symbol.

Is this the right group to ask this kind of question? If not which one
is the right one?

/Stu






Ellen MacArthur January 21st 07 02:09 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 

"Maxprop" wrote
This from the same 'person' who talks of "pulleys?"
You're busted, Neal. Give it up.


Duh, it was just a guess. And it turns out it was a bad guess. The guy
wasn't even talking about a question mark. It was some greek letter typed
wrong. It was the letter Mu. I googled it and it said it stands for micro.
So now I think maybe sorta that it's for a microwave tower. He calls it
a beacon. But, he sounds like a foreigner.... So it's probably a microwave
tower on land. I looked it up in Nautical Chart #1.
Hey, I know a lot about charts and colregs but boat parts I'm still new
at but I'm learning. So it's called a block instead of a pulley, big deal!
Try getting a life, Mr. Maxprop.

Cheers,
Ellen



Edgar January 21st 07 04:16 PM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 

"Stu" wrote in message
...
It is a Swedish chart. Sweden uses the "Chart number 1" symbolic scheme

for
its charts. I too have never seen any "non-English" characters on a chart
from the western world before. That's why I am puzzled and that is also

the
reason for my question.


I think you have mistaken the symbol yet again. My Norwegian list of chart
symbols is not going to differ from Swedish and does not contain any
abbreviations which are not common to English alphabet. Perhaps someone has
scribbled on your chart.



Maxprop January 22nd 07 01:41 AM

Prefix on a sea chart symbol.
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Maxprop" wrote
This from the same 'person' who talks of "pulleys?"
You're busted, Neal. Give it up.


Duh, it was just a guess. And it turns out it was a bad guess. The guy
wasn't even talking about a question mark. It was some greek letter typed
wrong. It was the letter Mu. I googled it and it said it stands for micro.
So now I think maybe sorta that it's for a microwave tower. He calls it
a beacon. But, he sounds like a foreigner.... So it's probably a microwave
tower on land. I looked it up in Nautical Chart #1.
Hey, I know a lot about charts and colregs but boat parts I'm still new
at but I'm learning. So it's called a block instead of a pulley, big deal!
Try getting a life, Mr. Maxprop.


I have a life. You, OTOH, have a sock over your right hand, and I shudder
to think what you're doing with your left hand. :-)

Max




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