"Edgar" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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I've always agreeded that the only difference from adversity and
adventure is attitude.

Here's proof.

Well, I criticise his attitude. He was unbelievably lucky in the selfless
assistance he received from all and sundry after the wreck and now appears
to be rushing again into the same set of circumstances.
OK, there was a storm and he had sea room, but decided to make for a lee
shore instead of riding it out. His mainsail came 'crashing' down.
Obviously not a bermudan one then, probably an old boat with a heavy gaff
and rotten halyards. He should have overhauled them. Then his engine had
'blown'. what was that? Flooded? Seems unlikely. Probably lack of
maintenance again.
I can accept that they were exhausted but they should have been hove-to
well
offshore waiting for it to blow itself out (Long foretold, long last.
Short
fortold, soon past-as the old sailors used to say about storms)
Then, on a sea anchor drifting towards shore he waits till he goes aground
on an uncharted rock that 'rose from the sea' (note this was 300 yards
from
shore where he would have been in trouble anyway) before he calls for
help.
Then he and his wife had to be rescued from his 41 foot yacht by guys in a
15 foot open boat!!
The boat becomes a total wreck, luckily no lives were lost.
Finally he says that 'overall we had a good experience'. Tell that to his
insurance company when he tries to go to sea again.




Exactly right... you don't head into shore in the middle of a storm, you
head out. I'm wondering which sailing school it was... cause the ones I know
would never tell someone to do that.

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Jon the seamanship and mariner abilities of the couple are a joke. They
paid for the lack of knowledge.

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving
his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental
attitude."

T. Jefferson

Joe

Capt. JG wrote:

Exactly right... you don't head into shore in the middle of a storm, you
head out. I'm wondering which sailing school it was... cause the ones I know
would never tell someone to do that.

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www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
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Jon the seamanship and mariner abilities of the couple are a joke. They
paid for the lack of knowledge.

"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving
his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental
attitude."

T. Jefferson

Joe

Capt. JG wrote:

Exactly right... you don't head into shore in the middle of a storm, you
head out. I'm wondering which sailing school it was... cause the ones I
know
would never tell someone to do that.



Either that or they got some really bad instruction.

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"Joe" wrote
"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving
his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental
attitude."

Duh, Tom Jefferson's not very bright. The right mental attitude is a negative unless
it's combined with experience. Common sense and understanding's also necessary. Just
because you have a positive attitude, it doesn't mean you'll succeed. All it means is your
attitude is positive. All it means is when you screw up royally you excuse your screw up
by saying it was a good learning experience when actually you've not learned a freaking
thing. It's just another way to excuse being too stupid to learn in the first place.
If you aren't down on yourself and kicking your own bottom for screwing up then your
probably just gonna repeat screwing up again and again....
It's like that klutz who had to be rescued from his wrecked pilot house motor sailboat
last week down there by South America. They interviewed him on the radio and I heard
it yesterday. He said "there's not much anybody can do when the angle of the boat and
a breaking wave combines to turn it over." Duh! So he learned exactly nothing. He's never
ever gonna think he should've been sailing with the proper storm sails. That way he coulda
controlled the angle of his boat. He should have been running before the storm. He could
have gotten away. He could have taken the wave on his stern instead of sideways. Instead
he's motoring with the sails down. Little weak diesel pretending to be a real motor boat.
Barely able to control the boat. So freaking stupid but it's what passes for sailors these
days...

Cheers,
Ellen

Joe wrote:
Jon the seamanship and mariner abilities of the couple are a joke. They
paid for the lack of knowledge.


They were lucky. They could easily have paid a lot more.


"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving
his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental
attitude."

T. Jefferson


That must be Ted Jefferson, 'cuz it sure ain't Tom.

Actually, "the right mental attitude" is a good start, but enough
brainpower to learn a few basic lessons first would help get further.
And yes, if these people got as far as they did without learning any
more than what they showed in that storm, then they should indeed quit.
"Love of the sea" is no substitute for competence.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)

Joe wrote:
Jon the seamanship and mariner abilities of the couple are a joke. They
paid for the lack of knowledge.


They got off cheap.


"Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving
his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental
attitude."

T. Jefferson


I assume you mean Ted Jefferson, or maybe Tim. Sure can't be Tom,
Thomas Jefferson never said anything so dumb. "The right mental
attitude" is a good start, but you also need knowledge, skill, and the
ability to observe. The story of this bunch suggests that they don't
even know they are lacking.

Like I said, they got off cheap. "The romance of the sea" is no
substitute for competence.

It just goes to show ya, in some cases, the quitters are the smart
ones.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)