I am currently very interested in C&C 115. Is it really high quality
boat as they explain in theyr site?

My target is to race under IMS and also some family cruising. Our
holiday includes 4 weeks sailing, Is this boat enough comfortable for
this also?

symichelle wrote:
I am currently very interested in C&C 115. Is it really high quality
boat as they explain in theyr site?


Well, it's not an Oyster or a Morris but it's not a Hunter, either.



My target is to race under IMS and also some family cruising. Our
holiday includes 4 weeks sailing, Is this boat enough comfortable for
this also?

The boat is not going to be competitive under IMS. It's too light and
doesn't even have a ballast bulb. IMS favors heavy, boxy boats with at
least a 50% ballast ratio.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)

"symichelle" wrote in message
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I am currently very interested in C&C 115. Is it really high quality
boat as they explain in theyr site?

My target is to race under IMS and also some family cruising. Our
holiday includes 4 weeks sailing, Is this boat enough comfortable for
this also?

Errrr. I hate to say this but I can tell just from your two questions that
you're a totally uninformed buyer. See, when people haven't a clue they're
easy to spot by their dumb questions. Their obvious inability to prioritize.
Like, what's the best boat for me? Duh! If you have to ask and you are
yourself and you know yourself how do expect somebody else who doesn't
know you to know?
It's like asking which suntan lotion smells the best. What somebody else
thinks smells the best might smell like a skunk to you. So take my advice and
study up about boats. Make a list of what's most important to you but only
after you know something about sailboats. Technical stuff even though it's
boring you should know first. Like how tippy the boat is. Called righting moment.
Or capsize ratio.... Things like motion/comfort, SA/Disp, LWL etc are all very
important. You need to know these things before you can make an informed
decision.
Only after you know these things then you can make your list of what's
important to you. Then you can match only boats that have the right stuff to
your list. Don't go off half-cocked or you'll end up sailing some dangerous and
flimsy not to mention butt ugly boat like a Macgregor 26. Get it?

Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen MacArthur kirjoitti:

"symichelle" wrote in message
ups.com...
I am currently very interested in C&C 115. Is it really high quality
boat as they explain in theyr site?

My target is to race under IMS and also some family cruising. Our
holiday includes 4 weeks sailing, Is this boat enough comfortable for
this also?

Errrr. I hate to say this but I can tell just from your two questions that
you're a totally uninformed buyer. See, when people haven't a clue they're
easy to spot by their dumb questions. Their obvious inability to prioritize.
Like, what's the best boat for me? Duh! If you have to ask and you are
yourself and you know yourself how do expect somebody else who doesn't
know you to know?
It's like asking which suntan lotion smells the best. What somebody else
thinks smells the best might smell like a skunk to you. So take my advice and
study up about boats. Make a list of what's most important to you but only
after you know something about sailboats. Technical stuff even though it's
boring you should know first. Like how tippy the boat is. Called righting moment.
Or capsize ratio.... Things like motion/comfort, SA/Disp, LWL etc are all very
important. You need to know these things before you can make an informed
decision.
Only after you know these things then you can make your list of what's
important to you. Then you can match only boats that have the right stuff to
your list. Don't go off half-cocked or you'll end up sailing some dangerous and
flimsy not to mention butt ugly boat like a Macgregor 26. Get it?

Cheers,
Ellen

Actually, I know a lot of that boat but only in theory. I´m fully were
of capsize ratio, SA/Disp. etc. I really would like to know if somebody
have competed in IMS. Also real life comment´s on how comfortable she
is and how easy is it to store all the things that are needed while
crusing with small kids.

Is this too much asked?

"symichelle" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ellen MacArthur kirjoitti:

garbage removed

Actually, I know a lot of that boat but only in theory. I´m fully were
of capsize ratio, SA/Disp. etc. I really would like to know if somebody
have competed in IMS. Also real life comment´s on how comfortable she
is and how easy is it to store all the things that are needed while
crusing with small kids.

Is this too much asked?


It is from "Ellen" who is really a self-absorbed guy, who tries to be clever
but is really just a pathetic loser.

I'm not terribly familiar with IMS, but I think C&Cs in general are very
good boats. You might want to try rec.boats.cruising or rec.boats.racing if
you don't get a decent response here.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

symichelle wrote:
Actually, I know a lot of that boat but only in theory. I´m fully were
of capsize ratio, SA/Disp. etc. I really would like to know if somebody
have competed in IMS.

I know of only one C&C 115 that has been rated and competed under IMS
and they did not do well. That is here in the Southeastern U.S. and
it's difficult to say how much is the boat, how much the rating. It is
a pretty fast boat & said to be fun to sail, that's worth a lot. I tend
to blame the rating rule which seems to favor milk-carton-shaped hulls
that are all ballast with noodley rigs.


Also real life comment´s on how comfortable she
is and how easy is it to store all the things that are needed while
crusing with small kids.

Is this too much asked?

I have only been on one at the boat shows. I liked it (although not
enough to buy one). If you were moving up from a smaller boat, say a
9.5 meter LOA or less, it would seem very roomy. The interior is open &
light, well laid out IMHO although not much stowage. No sharp corners
and has good handholds. It is quite a bit roomier & more of a cruiser
than a J-105.

Hope this helps.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)

kirjoitti:

symichelle wrote:
Actually, I know a lot of that boat but only in theory. I´m fully were
of capsize ratio, SA/Disp. etc. I really would like to know if somebody
have competed in IMS.

I know of only one C&C 115 that has been rated and competed under IMS
and they did not do well. That is here in the Southeastern U.S. and
it's difficult to say how much is the boat, how much the rating. It is
a pretty fast boat & said to be fun to sail, that's worth a lot. I tend
to blame the rating rule which seems to favor milk-carton-shaped hulls
that are all ballast with noodley rigs.


Also real life comment´s on how comfortable she
is and how easy is it to store all the things that are needed while
crusing with small kids.

Is this too much asked?

I have only been on one at the boat shows. I liked it (although not
enough to buy one). If you were moving up from a smaller boat, say a
9.5 meter LOA or less, it would seem very roomy. The interior is open &
light, well laid out IMHO although not much stowage. No sharp corners
and has good handholds. It is quite a bit roomier & more of a cruiser
than a J-105.

Hope this helps.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)

Thank´s it help´s! Currently we sail with Elan 33 which is roomy but
not very fast. C&C 115 is interesting because of it´s performance
however family cruising is also important. For example we have a Zodiac
260 dinghy, is there enough storage space for that?

IMS is not crusial, we can also race under LYS, famouse here in
Northern Europe )

I´d be happy to get more comment´s on C&C 115

kirjoitti:

symichelle wrote:
Actually, I know a lot of that boat but only in theory. I´m fully were
of capsize ratio, SA/Disp. etc. I really would like to know if somebody
have competed in IMS.

I know of only one C&C 115 that has been rated and competed under IMS
and they did not do well. That is here in the Southeastern U.S. and
it's difficult to say how much is the boat, how much the rating. It is
a pretty fast boat & said to be fun to sail, that's worth a lot. I tend
to blame the rating rule which seems to favor milk-carton-shaped hulls
that are all ballast with noodley rigs.


Also real life comment´s on how comfortable she
is and how easy is it to store all the things that are needed while
crusing with small kids.

Is this too much asked?

I have only been on one at the boat shows. I liked it (although not
enough to buy one). If you were moving up from a smaller boat, say a
9.5 meter LOA or less, it would seem very roomy. The interior is open &
light, well laid out IMHO although not much stowage. No sharp corners
and has good handholds. It is quite a bit roomier & more of a cruiser
than a J-105.

Hope this helps.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)

Thank´s it help´s! Currently we sail with Elan 33 which is roomy but
not very fast. C&C 115 is interesting because of it´s performance
however family cruising is also important. For example we have a Zodiac
260 dinghy, is there enough storage space for that?

IMS is not crusial, we can also race under LYS, famouse here in
Northern Europe )

I´d be happy to get more comment´s on C&C 115

symichelle wrote:
Thank´s it help´s! Currently we sail with Elan 33 which is roomy but
not very fast. C&C 115 is interesting because of it´s performance
however family cruising is also important. For example we have a Zodiac
260 dinghy, is there enough storage space for that?


Probably the stern platform would be the only place for it. If it
rolls/folds up small, it might fit in the cockpit locker (but would be
a PITA to get in or out).

I have seen a lot of people pull their inflatables and/or RIBs
stern-first so that they are partly on the stern platform, and only a
small section of the bow in the water. Not quite as much drag as towing
the whole thing and easier to launch than when deflated & packed up.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)