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These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

"Jeff" wrote
Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Pitchpoling is dangerous. You could break your neck. Did you see some of those
people flying off the hull? They were standing way back on the back and the bow still
sunk into the water and it was end over end. I think they should re-design the hull so
it has more reserve buoyancy at the front.

Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Pitchpoling is dangerous. You could break your neck. Did you see some of those
people flying off the hull? They were standing way back on the back and the bow still
sunk into the water and it was end over end. I think they should re-design the hull so
it has more reserve buoyancy at the front.

Sailing close to the edge has its risks - if they weren't flipping
then the boat was undersailed or not pushed hard enough. Anyone who
has sailed high performance dinghies will flip on a regular basis.
I'm not sure I ever survived a day on a Hobie 16 without flipping.
And capsizing dinks like a 505 was just as common.

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad
design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

Reminds me of when I was sailing in college... the most fun you can have
with your clothes on.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
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Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad
design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

Reminds me of when I was sailing in college... the most fun you can have
with your clothes on.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Only time I ever sailed a Hobi 16 we pitchpoled it in a thunderstorm
that came up suddenly. The shrouds tore out of the hulls and the mast
broke.

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

Come on, you can do better than that. Are you still using water state to
estimate windspeeds in confined waters?

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Flying Tadpole
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www.flyingtadpole.com

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Capt. JG wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
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Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad
design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

Reminds me of when I was sailing in college... the most fun you can have
with your clothes on.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Only time I ever sailed a Hobi 16 we pitchpoled it in a thunderstorm
that came up suddenly. The shrouds tore out of the hulls and the mast
broke.

We sailed a larger hobi and a prindle.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
Why do you say that? What's wrong with pitchpoling?

Pitchpoling is dangerous. You could break your neck. Did you see
some of those
people flying off the hull? They were standing way back on the back and
the bow still
sunk into the water and it was end over end. I think they should
re-design the hull so
it has more reserve buoyancy at the front.

Sailing close to the edge has its risks - if they weren't flipping then
the boat was undersailed or not pushed hard enough. Anyone who has sailed
high performance dinghies will flip on a regular basis. I'm not sure I
ever survived a day on a Hobie 16 without flipping. And capsizing dinks
like a 505 was just as common.

Hmm. After a couple of decades of racing all sorts of dinghies--Snipes,
Thistles, Lightnings, Lasers, Ensigns, MC Scows, and Hobie 16s--without ever
flipping one, I take issue with your contention. I can recall only two
capsizes in two-man boats and very few more in the Laser or MC (when racing
solo), yet I won my share of hardware. A capsize or flip is essentially a
DNF in most boats. Doesn't exactly make sense to be sailing so "close to
the edge" if it means not finishing or finishing near the back of the pack.

Max

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:02:59 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
scribbled thusly:

These multihulls pitchpole in smooth water. What's with that? Bad
design?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afSKI1RN9Co

Cheers,
Ellen

Nope, just exceptionally bad crew work.

Bingo. Hit the nail on the head, Oz.

Max