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Who but the Times...
"Dave" wrote in message ... would piously intone platitudes about these low wage jobs "Americans are unwilling to fill?" http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...215724,00.html Its editors seem to live on a planet of their own. They certainly do! The Employment Office up in Greeley seats only about 12 customers so if a few showed up for something other than filing for unemployment the line would certainly go out the door. That's why no numbers are mentioned or why people were there. One even admitted he was there for unemployment and applied for a job at Swift (perhaps as required to keep the unemployment checks coming in?) Here's a link to the job postings at the Greeley office: http://www.eswc.org/lmi/locallmi/OESwage1.htm There are plenty of unfilled jobs similar to those at Swift. Look at the photo in the picture - see a big office? Looks like ten feet between the service counter and the glass windows. The city population is only 88,000. The Rocky Mountain News has a notorious conservative slant so there's your bias. That article was devoid of any numbers, the number of people applying, the number of jobs open all it said is the line went out the door. I suppose if someone drove up to the office quickly and a toilet clogged the article would report people rushing for job applications and the office was flooded. |
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Who but the Times...
Gilligan wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... would piously intone platitudes about these low wage jobs "Americans are unwilling to fill?" http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...215724,00.html Its editors seem to live on a planet of their own. They certainly do! The Employment Office up in Greeley seats only about 12 customers so if a few showed up for something other than filing for unemployment the line would certainly go out the door. That's why no numbers are mentioned or why people were there. One even admitted he was there for unemployment and applied for a job at Swift (perhaps as required to keep the unemployment checks coming in?) Here's a link to the job postings at the Greeley office: http://www.eswc.org/lmi/locallmi/OESwage1.htm There are plenty of unfilled jobs similar to those at Swift. Look at the photo in the picture - see a big office? Looks like ten feet between the service counter and the glass windows. The city population is only 88,000. The Rocky Mountain News has a notorious conservative slant so there's your bias. That article was devoid of any numbers, the number of people applying, the number of jobs open all it said is the line went out the door. I suppose if someone drove up to the office quickly and a toilet clogged the article would report people rushing for job applications and the office was flooded. Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. |
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Who but the Times...
"katy" wrote in message ... Gilligan wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... would piously intone platitudes about these low wage jobs "Americans are unwilling to fill?" http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...215724,00.html Its editors seem to live on a planet of their own. They certainly do! The Employment Office up in Greeley seats only about 12 customers so if a few showed up for something other than filing for unemployment the line would certainly go out the door. That's why no numbers are mentioned or why people were there. One even admitted he was there for unemployment and applied for a job at Swift (perhaps as required to keep the unemployment checks coming in?) Here's a link to the job postings at the Greeley office: http://www.eswc.org/lmi/locallmi/OESwage1.htm There are plenty of unfilled jobs similar to those at Swift. Look at the photo in the picture - see a big office? Looks like ten feet between the service counter and the glass windows. The city population is only 88,000. The Rocky Mountain News has a notorious conservative slant so there's your bias. That article was devoid of any numbers, the number of people applying, the number of jobs open all it said is the line went out the door. I suppose if someone drove up to the office quickly and a toilet clogged the article would report people rushing for job applications and the office was flooded. Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. Katy, there's lines out the door for jobs here. Says so in the papers. Those teacher's wages aren't bad at all. Starting pay is even less where I'm at and you have to have a certificate, BS in the field you teach and additional education in teaching. Wages in general here are about 1/2 - 1/3 of what is paid in the Bay area. Companies move here to take advantage of cheap labor and find they can't get anyone so they go back east/west. The wealthy people here made their money somewhere else. |
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Who but the Times...
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Gilligan wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... would piously intone platitudes about these low wage jobs "Americans are unwilling to fill?" http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...215724,00.html Its editors seem to live on a planet of their own. They certainly do! The Employment Office up in Greeley seats only about 12 customers so if a few showed up for something other than filing for unemployment the line would certainly go out the door. That's why no numbers are mentioned or why people were there. One even admitted he was there for unemployment and applied for a job at Swift (perhaps as required to keep the unemployment checks coming in?) Here's a link to the job postings at the Greeley office: http://www.eswc.org/lmi/locallmi/OESwage1.htm There are plenty of unfilled jobs similar to those at Swift. Look at the photo in the picture - see a big office? Looks like ten feet between the service counter and the glass windows. The city population is only 88,000. The Rocky Mountain News has a notorious conservative slant so there's your bias. That article was devoid of any numbers, the number of people applying, the number of jobs open all it said is the line went out the door. I suppose if someone drove up to the office quickly and a toilet clogged the article would report people rushing for job applications and the office was flooded. Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. Katy, there's lines out the door for jobs here. Says so in the papers. Those teacher's wages aren't bad at all. Comparitive to N. or S. Carolina or Alabama, maybe... Starting pay is even less where I'm at and you have to have a certificate, BS in the field you teach and additional education in teaching. Let's hope to GOd for our kids sake that all school districts require those things! Wages in general here are about 1/2 - 1/3 of what is paid in the Bay area. Companies move here to take advantage of cheap labor and find they can't get anyone so they go back east/west. Some of them should go back to Michigan...there are plenty of people there who are willing to work for almost anything at the moment... The wealthy people here made their money somewhere else. Don't they always? |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:19:04 -0500, katy said: Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. You can't really reach much in the way of conclusions without knowing the relative cost of living there compared to that where you're located. I have always heard that Colorado ahs a pretty high cost of living...as does Virginia.... Using the 42K average that a teacher makes in that CO county, I ran a comparison on a cost of living calculator (the avg. teacher salary in VA is 48K): Product Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA Denver CO Difference HOME PRICE $286,672.00 $316,594.00 $29,922.00 PAYMENT+ INTEREST $1,308.36 $1,397.82 $89.47 APT RENT $893.00 $737.00 $156.00 TOTAL ENERGY $197.89 $142.46 $55.43 OTHER ENERGY $110.16 $64.51 $45.65 LIPITOR $109.99 $114.00 $4.01 DENTIST VISIT $98.80 $77.33 $21.47 PART ELECTRICAL $87.73 $77.95 $9.78 DOCTOR VISIT $72.60 $94.75 $22.15 OPTOMETRIST $71.60 $73.40 $1.80 VET SERVICES $37.20 $41.42 $4.22 WASHER REPAIR $35.00 $53.48 $18.48 PHONE $32.36 $24.15 $8.21 WOMENS SLACKS $23.24 $24.24 $1.00 BEAUTY SALON $20.80 $27.20 $6.40 MENS SHIRT $20.74 $17.24 $3.50 BOYS JEAN $19.49 $19.39 $0.10 PIZZA $10.99 $9.72 $1.27 NEWSPAPER $10.42 $7.50 $2.92 TIRE BALANCE $10.14 $8.62 $1.52 T BONE STEAK $10.05 $9.59 $0.46 HAIR CUT $8.80 $12.79 $3.99 DRY CLEANING $8.44 $9.62 $1.18 MOVIE $7.90 $8.89 $0.99 BEER $7.77 $7.36 $0.41 IBUPROFEN $5.82 $5.91 $0.09 WINE $5.59 $4.93 $0.66 POTATOES $5.52 $2.72 $2.80 CASCADE $4.32 $3.38 $0.94 BOWLING $4.10 $4.15 $0.05 CRISCO $3.67 $3.45 $0.22 2-PC CHICKEN $3.33 $3.00 $0.33 TENNIS BALLS $3.25 $2.22 $1.03 COFFEE $3.22 $4.10 $0.88 SAUSAGE $3.17 $4.56 $1.39 CEREAL $3.09 $2.32 $0.77 PARMESAN CHEESE $2.99 $4.23 $1.24 FROZEN MEAL $2.85 $3.07 $0.22 GASOLINE $2.79 $2.72 $0.06 HAMBURGER SANDWICH $2.69 $2.77 $0.08 ORANGE JUICE $2.46 $2.31 $0.15 TOOTHPASTE $2.42 $2.27 $0.15 POTATO CHIPS $2.36 $2.03 $0.33 GROUND BEEF $2.34 $2.74 $0.40 HALF GAL MILK $2.19 $2.09 $0.10 PEACHES $1.97 $2.40 $0.43 KLEENEX $1.72 $1.83 $0.11 SUGAR $1.56 $1.86 $0.30 FROZEN CORN $1.52 $1.75 $0.23 LETTUCE $1.44 $1.09 $0.35 DOZ EGGS $1.19 $0.84 $0.35 FRIED CHICKEN $1.09 $1.24 $0.15 SWEET PEAS $0.98 $1.26 $0.28 SHAMPOO $0.94 $1.00 $0.06 MARGARINE $0.74 $1.04 $0.30 TUNA $0.70 $0.81 $0.11 BANANAS $0.37 $0.49 $0.12 Mortgage (%) 6.14% 5.83% 0.31 |
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"katy" wrote in message
... Dave wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:19:04 -0500, katy said: Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. You can't really reach much in the way of conclusions without knowing the relative cost of living there compared to that where you're located. Salary in Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA: $42,000 Comparable salary in Denver CO: $43,531.1 If you move from Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA to Denver CO... Groceries will cost: 11.682% more Housing will cost: 10.694% more Utilities will cost: 20.496% less Transportation will cost: 4.651% less Healthcare will cost: 0.637% more -- jlrogers±³© |
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Who but the Times...
Is Chauncy making more or less than he was in MI. ?
Teachers salaries vary widely right here in the same county, depends on the school district ( and local taxes). Lisa took less salary to teach at a better school. Scotty "katy" wrote in message ... TUNA $0.70 $0.81 $0.11 BANANAS $0.37 $0.49 $0.12 Mortgage (%) 6.14% 5.83% 0.31 |
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Who but the Times...
jlrogers±³© wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:19:04 -0500, katy said: Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. You can't really reach much in the way of conclusions without knowing the relative cost of living there compared to that where you're located. Salary in Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA: $42,000 Comparable salary in Denver CO: $43,531.1 If you move from Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA to Denver CO... Groceries will cost: 11.682% more Housing will cost: 10.694% more Utilities will cost: 20.496% less Transportation will cost: 4.651% less Healthcare will cost: 0.637% more Exceptthe average teacher wage in zHampton Toads is not 43k but 48k and some of what you have there does not gybe with the calculator I used... |
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Scotty wrote:
Is Chauncy making more or less than he was in MI. ? Teachers salaries vary widely right here in the same county, depends on the school district ( and local taxes). Lisa took less salary to teach at a better school. Scotty "katy" wrote in message ... TUNA $0.70 $0.81 $0.11 BANANAS $0.37 $0.49 $0.12 Mortgage (%) 6.14% 5.83% 0.31 If he had taight in MI he would be making less...MI is one of the highest salary places for teachers....he was an engineer in MI...engineers make a lit mire than teachers...especcially when they've been with a company for 25 years..hence, that's why he's teaching... |
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Who but the Times...
"katy" wrote in message ... jlrogers±³© wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:19:04 -0500, katy said: Your county certainly isn't doing much to attract teachers with wages like those. You can't really reach much in the way of conclusions without knowing the relative cost of living there compared to that where you're located. Salary in Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA: $42,000 Comparable salary in Denver CO: $43,531.1 If you move from Hampton Roads-SE Virginia VA to Denver CO... Groceries will cost: 11.682% more Housing will cost: 10.694% more Utilities will cost: 20.496% less Transportation will cost: 4.651% less Healthcare will cost: 0.637% more Exceptthe average teacher wage in zHampton Toads is not 43k but 48k and some of what you have there does not gybe with the calculator I used... Same here. In general the cost of living along the 'right coast' exceeds that of Denver. Did I miss something, Katy? Are you contemplating a move to the Mile High City? Max |
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