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Ellen MacArthur December 11th 06 11:54 PM

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Steve Dooley wrote in message ...
What do you consider the 5 best pocket cruisers in the 16-19 foot
range?


Can I cheat a little bit and go up one foot?
You can't beat a Nordica 20. It's a go anywhere boat unlike the rest of the
pocket cruisers. http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-20.html People
have sailed them around the world.....
Oh, how's Bobby?

Cheers,
Ellen



Scotty December 12th 06 01:12 AM

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Steve Dooley wrote in message
...




That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.


Your home? you let somebody tell you what you can or can
not do at YOUR OWN HOME?

No wonder this country is heading downhill. people like
this, who just give up their rights without a fight.
Willy nilly pansies!


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Joe December 12th 06 01:30 AM

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Steve Dooley wrote:


When the
thing starts up windows rattle, small kids are in danger, the
pollution and the image of that monstrosity on the lawn driven by some
white cracker snorting cheese whiz.


Steve


Bwahahahahahahahaa


Capt. JG December 12th 06 01:31 AM

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Steve Dooley wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:54:52 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


Steve Dooley wrote in message
. ..
What do you consider the 5 best pocket cruisers in the 16-19 foot
range?


Can I cheat a little bit and go up one foot?
You can't beat a Nordica 20. It's a go anywhere boat unlike the rest of
the
pocket cruisers. http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-20.html People
have sailed them around the world.....
Oh, how's Bobby?

Cheers,
Ellen



That Nordica 20 looks like a real "popeye" boat. One thing I'm looking
for is a how well I can trailer it. That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association. I'll take a closer
look at one. The fisherman's model reminds me of the African Queen.
Cool boats, though. Fixed keel is a must.

Steve



There are always the Cal 20s. They can be had for very little, fix up to be
nice boats, and have a 3-1/2' draft with a fixed keel.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jeff December 12th 06 01:17 PM

Best Pocket Cruisers
 
Steve Dooley wrote:

That Nordica 20 looks like a real "popeye" boat. One thing I'm looking
for is a how well I can trailer it. That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association. I'll take a closer
look at one. The fisherman's model reminds me of the African Queen.
Cool boats, though. Fixed keel is a must.


Ah, you have specific requirements! Why didn't you share that with
use before asking such a general question?

So where are you sailing? By cruising do you meaning daysailing, over
nights, or several weeks? For one person, two, or more? Do you need
easy haulouts, or will it be left in the water? Do you want classic
looks or will a "clorox bottle" be OK?

My own tastes run towards the heavier, classic small boats, so I'm
guessing my choices would not work for you. For instance, I'm looking
forward to getting one of these in my dotage:
http://www.marshallcat.com/

Ellen MacArthur December 12th 06 05:15 PM

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"Dave" wrote
I credit Scotty with having had his tongue planted firmly in his cheek,
making your editorial comment rather beside the point.


No room. Scotty'd have to spit out his Red Man chaw. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



Scotty December 12th 06 10:48 PM

Best Pocket Cruisers
 

Steve Dooley wrote in message
...


That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.


Your home? you let somebody tell you what you can or can
not do at YOUR OWN HOME?


In some matters yes. It is called convenants.



PUSSY !




No wonder this country is heading downhill. people like
this, who just give up their rights without a fight.


What right did I give up? I bought into a neighborhood

that has rules.
Those rules may be a bit stricter than those of other

areas but I
voluntarily agreed to them.



SHEEP !



Willy nilly pansies!


You can't be serious. How would you like it if your

neighbor came
along and parked some big noisy semi truck in the

driveway?

My driveway or his?


When the
thing starts up windows rattle, small kids are in danger,

the
pollution and the image of that monstrosity on the lawn


I thought you said it was in a driveway?

I don't think residential areas
should be turned into commercial enterprises.


And I don't think you have the balls to tell me what to do
on MY property.
You just keep following someone elses rules, whimpy.

Scotty





Scotty December 12th 06 10:48 PM

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What a stupid reply!


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Oh Lord, kumbaya




Scotty December 12th 06 10:50 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

Come now, Charlie. I'm sure you can recognize irony when

you see it.

Charlie wouldn't recognize his own dick, if he ever saw it
again.

SBV



Scotty December 12th 06 10:56 PM

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a Mac 26 XM would fit you to a tee.


Steve Dooley wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:17:22 -0500, Jeff

wrote:

Steve Dooley wrote:

That Nordica 20 looks like a real "popeye" boat. One

thing I'm looking
for is a how well I can trailer it. That boat would not

be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.

I'll take a closer
look at one. The fisherman's model reminds me of the

African Queen.
Cool boats, though. Fixed keel is a must.


Ah, you have specific requirements! Why didn't you share

that with
use before asking such a general question?

So where are you sailing? By cruising do you meaning

daysailing, over
nights, or several weeks? For one person, two, or more?

Do you need
easy haulouts, or will it be left in the water? Do you

want classic
looks or will a "clorox bottle" be OK?

My own tastes run towards the heavier, classic small

boats, so I'm
guessing my choices would not work for you. For

instance, I'm looking
forward to getting one of these in my dotage:
http://www.marshallcat.com/



I want a fixed keel so there is more room in the cabin. I

want a
solid, well built boat that is roomy. Moderately easy

trailering is a
plus. I want fiberglass with little or no wood. No flimsy

clorox
bottle either. I'd prefer a diesel inboard with a 3 or 4

blade prop,
no folding. I'd start with 3-4 day sails 3 times a month

and live
aboard after I divorce my fat disaster of a wife. I plan

to spend much
time in remote tropical areas by myself mostly or with

just one other
person. I am worried about space for provisions, namely

water. A water
maker would be nice but it burns power and consumes fuel.

I've looked
at many boats but they all lack just the "thing". The

Nordica 20 is a
good option I have to check on the headroom. How practical

is it to
tow a supply dinghy behind that is full of provisions? I

don't have to
worry about resale value or the initial cost of the boat.

I want to
trailer it to various locations to gain more experience

since I have
sailed mostly in one area for about 7 years. Standing

headroom is
necessary I am 5'6 1/2" tall. I have no physical or mental

handicaps.
I will be in warm climates but don't want any air

conditioning. Do
swamp coolers or misters work on boats? Someone mentioned

towing
fishing nets to stock up on food while underway but I

think that will
slow you down too much. But in the old days sailboats did

pull nets so
is it a good idea? Is a full swim platform a good idea, I

can store
stuff on it. I have a Dodge Ram to pull it so weight is

not a problem.
I'd prefer a normal macaroni rig to a cat rig. I figure

with some of
those shoal keels pointing will be bad enough. Thanks for

all your
help.

Steve Dooley





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