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Steve Dooley wrote in message ...
What do you consider the 5 best pocket cruisers in the 16-19 foot
range?

Can I cheat a little bit and go up one foot?
You can't beat a Nordica 20. It's a go anywhere boat unlike the rest of the
pocket cruisers. http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-20.html People
have sailed them around the world.....
Oh, how's Bobby?

Cheers,
Ellen

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Steve Dooley wrote in message
...




That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.

Your home? you let somebody tell you what you can or can
not do at YOUR OWN HOME?

No wonder this country is heading downhill. people like
this, who just give up their rights without a fight.
Willy nilly pansies!


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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Steve Dooley wrote:


When the
thing starts up windows rattle, small kids are in danger, the
pollution and the image of that monstrosity on the lawn driven by some
white cracker snorting cheese whiz.

Steve

Bwahahahahahahahaa

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Steve Dooley wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:54:52 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


Steve Dooley wrote in message
. ..
What do you consider the 5 best pocket cruisers in the 16-19 foot
range?

Can I cheat a little bit and go up one foot?
You can't beat a Nordica 20. It's a go anywhere boat unlike the rest of
the
pocket cruisers. http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-20.html People
have sailed them around the world.....
Oh, how's Bobby?

Cheers,
Ellen



That Nordica 20 looks like a real "popeye" boat. One thing I'm looking
for is a how well I can trailer it. That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association. I'll take a closer
look at one. The fisherman's model reminds me of the African Queen.
Cool boats, though. Fixed keel is a must.

Steve


There are always the Cal 20s. They can be had for very little, fix up to be
nice boats, and have a 3-1/2' draft with a fixed keel.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Steve Dooley wrote:

That Nordica 20 looks like a real "popeye" boat. One thing I'm looking
for is a how well I can trailer it. That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association. I'll take a closer
look at one. The fisherman's model reminds me of the African Queen.
Cool boats, though. Fixed keel is a must.

Ah, you have specific requirements! Why didn't you share that with
use before asking such a general question?

So where are you sailing? By cruising do you meaning daysailing, over
nights, or several weeks? For one person, two, or more? Do you need
easy haulouts, or will it be left in the water? Do you want classic
looks or will a "clorox bottle" be OK?

My own tastes run towards the heavier, classic small boats, so I'm
guessing my choices would not work for you. For instance, I'm looking
forward to getting one of these in my dotage:
http://www.marshallcat.com/

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"Dave" wrote
I credit Scotty with having had his tongue planted firmly in his cheek,
making your editorial comment rather beside the point.

No room. Scotty'd have to spit out his Red Man chaw. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

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Steve Dooley wrote in message
...


That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.

Your home? you let somebody tell you what you can or can
not do at YOUR OWN HOME?

In some matters yes. It is called convenants.


PUSSY !




No wonder this country is heading downhill. people like
this, who just give up their rights without a fight.

What right did I give up? I bought into a neighborhood
that has rules.
Those rules may be a bit stricter than those of other
areas but I
voluntarily agreed to them.


SHEEP !



Willy nilly pansies!

You can't be serious. How would you like it if your
neighbor came
along and parked some big noisy semi truck in the
driveway?

My driveway or his?


When the
thing starts up windows rattle, small kids are in danger,
the
pollution and the image of that monstrosity on the lawn

I thought you said it was in a driveway?

I don't think residential areas
should be turned into commercial enterprises.

And I don't think you have the balls to tell me what to do
on MY property.
You just keep following someone elses rules, whimpy.

Scotty

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What a stupid reply!


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"Dave" wrote in message
...

Come now, Charlie. I'm sure you can recognize irony when
you see it.

Charlie wouldn't recognize his own dick, if he ever saw it
again.

SBV

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a Mac 26 XM would fit you to a tee.


Steve Dooley wrote in message
...
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:17:22 -0500, Jeff
wrote:

Steve Dooley wrote:

That Nordica 20 looks like a real "popeye" boat. One
thing I'm looking
for is a how well I can trailer it. That boat would not
be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.
I'll take a closer
look at one. The fisherman's model reminds me of the
African Queen.
Cool boats, though. Fixed keel is a must.

Ah, you have specific requirements! Why didn't you share
that with
use before asking such a general question?

So where are you sailing? By cruising do you meaning
daysailing, over
nights, or several weeks? For one person, two, or more?
Do you need
easy haulouts, or will it be left in the water? Do you
want classic
looks or will a "clorox bottle" be OK?

My own tastes run towards the heavier, classic small
boats, so I'm
guessing my choices would not work for you. For
instance, I'm looking
forward to getting one of these in my dotage:
http://www.marshallcat.com/


I want a fixed keel so there is more room in the cabin. I
want a
solid, well built boat that is roomy. Moderately easy
trailering is a
plus. I want fiberglass with little or no wood. No flimsy
clorox
bottle either. I'd prefer a diesel inboard with a 3 or 4
blade prop,
no folding. I'd start with 3-4 day sails 3 times a month
and live
aboard after I divorce my fat disaster of a wife. I plan
to spend much
time in remote tropical areas by myself mostly or with
just one other
person. I am worried about space for provisions, namely
water. A water
maker would be nice but it burns power and consumes fuel.
I've looked
at many boats but they all lack just the "thing". The
Nordica 20 is a
good option I have to check on the headroom. How practical
is it to
tow a supply dinghy behind that is full of provisions? I
don't have to
worry about resale value or the initial cost of the boat.
I want to
trailer it to various locations to gain more experience
since I have
sailed mostly in one area for about 7 years. Standing
headroom is
necessary I am 5'6 1/2" tall. I have no physical or mental
handicaps.
I will be in warm climates but don't want any air
conditioning. Do
swamp coolers or misters work on boats? Someone mentioned
towing
fishing nets to stock up on food while underway but I
think that will
slow you down too much. But in the old days sailboats did
pull nets so
is it a good idea? Is a full swim platform a good idea, I
can store
stuff on it. I have a Dodge Ram to pull it so weight is
not a problem.
I'd prefer a normal macaroni rig to a cat rig. I figure
with some of
those shoal keels pointing will be bad enough. Thanks for
all your
help.

Steve Dooley

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Steve Dooley wrote:

I want a fixed keel so there is more room in the cabin. I want a
solid, well built boat that is roomy. Moderately easy trailering is a
plus. I want fiberglass with little or no wood. No flimsy clorox
bottle either. I'd prefer a diesel inboard with a 3 or 4 blade prop,
no folding. I'd start with 3-4 day sails 3 times a month and live
aboard after I divorce my fat disaster of a wife. I plan to spend much
time in remote tropical areas by myself mostly or with just one other
person. I am worried about space for provisions, namely water. A water
maker would be nice but it burns power and consumes fuel. I've looked
at many boats but they all lack just the "thing". The Nordica 20 is a
good option I have to check on the headroom. How practical is it to
tow a supply dinghy behind that is full of provisions? I don't have to
worry about resale value or the initial cost of the boat. I want to
trailer it to various locations to gain more experience since I have
sailed mostly in one area for about 7 years. Standing headroom is
necessary I am 5'6 1/2" tall. I have no physical or mental handicaps.
I will be in warm climates but don't want any air conditioning. Do
swamp coolers or misters work on boats? Someone mentioned towing
fishing nets to stock up on food while underway but I think that will
slow you down too much. But in the old days sailboats did pull nets so
is it a good idea? Is a full swim platform a good idea, I can store
stuff on it. I have a Dodge Ram to pull it so weight is not a problem.
I'd prefer a normal macaroni rig to a cat rig. I figure with some of
those shoal keels pointing will be bad enough. Thanks for all your
help.

So you want a 19 foot keelboat with standing headroom. And a diesel.
And you want to live aboard? Good luck with that.

There are a number of somewhat larger boats that might come closer and
still be trailerable, but its very hard to have headroom on a boat
under 28 feet without being exceptionally ugly. There are a few with
pop-tops that you might consider, but still, I wouldn't know where to
begin with a 19 foot liveaboard.

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"Jeff" wrote
So you want a 19 foot keelboat with standing headroom. And a diesel. And you want to live aboard? Good luck with
that.


He's not very tall. Only five foot six inches. He could stand up in the Nordica. Some Nordicas
came with diesels. Two people living aboard would be a problem.

Cheers,
Ellen

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Steve,

If you to be cruisin for that long I don't want you takin any my
relatives. I don't want you mackin' down on my nephew when the food runs
out. I know you is Catholic and you is a bunch of cannibals, you eat the
booty too!

Mavis Leonard

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
So you want a 19 foot keelboat with standing headroom. And a diesel. And you want to live aboard? Good luck with
that.


He's not very tall. Only five foot six inches. He could stand up in the Nordica. Some Nordicas
came with diesels. Two people living aboard would be a problem.

I think he'd find the headroom is much lower, perhaps 4.5 feet. I
don't even think the Flicka has 5.5 feet. Now if he got a Dana, he'd
be all set.

However, these boats can be a bit misleading, since other than Length
on Deck they sometimes have the attributes of a larger boat. For
example, the Flicka has a displacement of 6000 lbs.

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Scotty wrote:
Steve Dooley wrote in message
...


That boat would not be allowed to
be stored at my home by the homeowners association.

Your home? you let somebody tell you what you can or can
not do at YOUR OWN HOME?

In some matters yes. It is called convenants.


PUSSY !




No wonder this country is heading downhill. people like
this, who just give up their rights without a fight.

What right did I give up? I bought into a neighborhood
that has rules.
Those rules may be a bit stricter than those of other
areas but I
voluntarily agreed to them.


SHEEP !



Willy nilly pansies!

You can't be serious. How would you like it if your
neighbor came
along and parked some big noisy semi truck in the
driveway?

My driveway or his?


When the
thing starts up windows rattle, small kids are in danger,
the
pollution and the image of that monstrosity on the lawn

I thought you said it was in a driveway?

I don't think residential areas
should be turned into commercial enterprises.

And I don't think you have the balls to tell me what to do
on MY property.
You just keep following someone elses rules, whimpy.

Yeah. What you said. This clown is lucky he doesn't live next door to
me, or Mooron. Nothing in my homeowner's agreement to say I can't shoot
rabbits on the lawn, or run a chainsaw at 0600 on a Sunday morning. As
for keeping a boat on the lawn - phhhhft. I can keep a *freighter* out
the front.

PDW