Most haven't listened to Neal and his Sickness. Being pre-occupied with
with images of the way others look can be a SICKNESS. If it really
bothers you, it probable means you need help.

Here is a News Week article about it, just yesterday: 12/7/2006

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Drink ice-cold water ("your body has to burn calories to keep your
temperature up") and hot water with bullion cubes ("only 5 calories a
cube, and they taste wonderful"). When a food craving strikes, give
yourself a manicure ("applying extra layers of slow-drying polish. It
will keep your hands occupied"). These kinds of tips are common fare in
the growing world of "pro-ana" (pro-anorexia) and "pro-mia"
(pro-bulimia) Web sites. More than 200 such sites now cater to the
estimated .5 to 1 percent of adolescent and adult women who are anorexic
and to the 1 to 2 percent who are bulimic.
Well intended or not, the sites are "not benign," says Dr. Rebecka
Peebles, a specialist in adolescent medicine at Stanford University's
Lucile Packard Children's Hospital. In "Surfing for Thinness: A Pilot
Study of Pro-Eating Disorder Web Site Usage in Adolescents with Eating
Disorders," published this week in Pediatrics, the journal of the
American Academy of Pediatrics, she and her colleagues reported the
results of a survey of eating-disorder patients and their parents. They
found that patients who used pro-eating-disorder sites were sick longer
and spent less time doing schoolwork. Patients who used both
pro-eating-disorder and pro-recovery sites were admitted to the hospital
more times than nonusers.
Many experts find the pro-eating-disorder sites appalling. "It's one of
the few times in history that someone has come out and said that a very
dangerous illness is a good idea, and here's how to do it," says
Christopher Athas, vice president of the National Association of
Anorexia Nervosa and Associated Disorders. "They talk about First
Amendment rights. But this is like shouting fire ... These people with
these sites claim that they are representing a lifestyle, but they are
representing a dangerous illness." Researchers have demonstrated that
eating disorders can lead to anxiety, depression, alcoholism, substance
abuse, self-mutilation and suicide.
But the pro-ana and pro-mia sites, which the study says are more
numerous than pro-recovery sites, tend to gloss over that kind of
information-and the fact that people with anorexia are more than 56
times more likely than their peers to commit suicide, says Cynthia
Bulik, director of the eating-disorders program at the University of
North Carolina at Chapel Hill. "People who are posting to these sites
are accomplices to suicide."
Such sites can interfere with treatment, especially during the first
year, when anorexics are at high risk for relapse, says Bulik. "It's a
high-risk cue, or a trigger," she says. "I don't think anorexia nervosa
is an addiction, but these sites have the ability to pull them into
something that's familiar and comfortable. You want your supportive
treatment team to be the strong voice in your head.
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It is a good thing to remember; 'You are a one of a kind; just like
everybody else.'


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"Thom Stewart" wrote
Being pre-occupied with
with images of the way others look can be a SICKNESS. If it really
bothers you, it probable means you need help.


It's only fatties who think the way you do, Tom. Ignore the obvious...... It's not your arms
getting shorter because you can't reach the food in the middle of the table anymore. Hee hee.
It's an eating disorder when a girl starves herself. But a man and his family can eat enough
for a small town, that's OK. But when they all end up morbidly obese that's normal. Yah right!

Cheers,
Ellen

I really do think Neal does need help. He can't even reply in his own
name to a discussion.

I think Neal is sicker than he realizes. I'm afraid that is all to
common with people with mental problems. The first necessary step to
their recovery is admitting they have a problem.

It may be to late already. He can't even admit to being Neal. He thinks
he is a famous female sailor that he so harshly use to criticizes.

Yes, I'm afraid our good CRAPTON has lost contact with reality. So sad


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Thom Stewart wrote:
I really do think Neal does need help. He can't even reply in his own
name to a discussion.

I think Neal is sicker than he realizes. I'm afraid that is all to
common with people with mental problems. The first necessary step to
their recovery is admitting they have a problem.

It may be to late already. He can't even admit to being Neal. He thinks
he is a famous female sailor that he so harshly use to criticizes.

Yes, I'm afraid our good CRAPTON has lost contact with reality. So sad

au contraire, Thom...I think he is in very close touch with himself...

No Katy,

I think that "Shack-up" with LP and his experience with Base6 & meows
put him over the edge. Then Beaching himself has been more than he can
take.

The group is going to have to make allowance for him until he can find
an identity for himself

I think he is in need of help but can't admit to that need.

It would be a God Send if you were right but you know that he isn't
capable of admitting you are correct.


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Thom Stewart wrote:
No Katy,

I think that "Shack-up" with LP and his experience with Base6 & meows
put him over the edge. Then Beaching himself has been more than he can
take.

The group is going to have to make allowance for him until he can find
an identity for himself

I think he is in need of help but can't admit to that need.

It would be a God Send if you were right but you know that he isn't
capable of admitting you are correct.



uuummm...my remark was an innuendo to something else, THom...

"Thom Stewart" wrote
I really do think Neal does need help. He can't even reply in his own
name to a discussion.
I think Neal is sicker than he realizes. I'm afraid that is all to
common with people with mental problems. The first necessary step to
their recovery is admitting they have a problem.
It may be to late already. He can't even admit to being Neal. He thinks
he is a famous female sailor that he so harshly use to criticizes.
Yes, I'm afraid our good CRAPTON has lost contact with reality. So sad.

Why is it your so obsessed with Capt. Neal, Tom? You seem to see him everywhere
you look. Every other post you mention him. You think I'm him. Duh! I only wish. He
knows English better than my whole family put together. And he sounds like he could
sail circles around anybody here in this news group. Myself included And, didn't I
tell everybody I'm not the famous Ellen MacArthur, Dame Ellen MacArthur the sailor.
I just happen to have the same name. Is that a crime? And I posted pictures, lots of
them. Maybe you can't see them on your computer for some reason but that ain't my
fault.
Nope, Capt. Neal isn't posting here anymore. You should do some Googling, if you
know how. You'd see he's got a blog spot over in MSN live spaces. He sounds pretty
normal to me. He explained pretty well why there're no liberal sailors. Not to mention
he's cuter and younger than I thought unless that's a fake photo. He can't be all that
bad off if he can figure out how to work live spaces blogs. I tried and I couldn't
get it to even upload stuff. It said I had to download some program to upload photos
but the program wouldn't download at all. So I used badongo instead. It's easier. It
uploads photos without having to put any programs on my computer.
Have you ever tried fasting? It might clear some cobwebs outta your mind.
Could make you less paranoid.

Cheers,
Ellen

do some Goggling yourself missy. ''Capt'' Neal was at one
time a miserable old coot who complained and whined about
everyone and everything. His only saving grace was that he
lived on a boat and sailed once in a while.
But then he hooked up with a two-bit whore TV named LP. It
was all downhill after that. The low spot was when he joined
the 'flonkers' to try and disrupt this NG. Sadly, he is in
the 'loser column' now.

Scotty


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"Thom Stewart" wrote
I really do think Neal does need help. He can't even
reply in his own
name to a discussion.
I think Neal is sicker than he realizes. I'm afraid that
is all to
common with people with mental problems. The first
necessary step to
their recovery is admitting they have a problem.
It may be to late already. He can't even admit to being
Neal. He thinks
he is a famous female sailor that he so harshly use to
criticizes.
Yes, I'm afraid our good CRAPTON has lost contact with
reality. So sad.

Why is it your so obsessed with Capt. Neal, Tom? You
seem to see him everywhere
you look. Every other post you mention him. You think I'm
him. Duh! I only wish. He
knows English better than my whole family put together.
And he sounds like he could
sail circles around anybody here in this news group.
Myself included And, didn't I
tell everybody I'm not the famous Ellen MacArthur, Dame
Ellen MacArthur the sailor.
I just happen to have the same name. Is that a crime? And
I posted pictures, lots of
them. Maybe you can't see them on your computer for some
reason but that ain't my
fault.
Nope, Capt. Neal isn't posting here anymore. You
should do some Googling, if you
know how. You'd see he's got a blog spot over in MSN live
spaces. He sounds pretty
normal to me. He explained pretty well why there're no
liberal sailors. Not to mention
he's cuter and younger than I thought unless that's a fake
photo. He can't be all that
bad off if he can figure out how to work live spaces
blogs. I tried and I couldn't
get it to even upload stuff. It said I had to download
some program to upload photos
but the program wouldn't download at all. So I used
badongo instead. It's easier. It
uploads photos without having to put any programs on my
computer.
Have you ever tried fasting? It might clear some
cobwebs outta your mind.
Could make you less paranoid.

Cheers,
Ellen

"Scotty" wrote
do some Goggling yourself missy. ''Capt'' Neal was at one
time a miserable old coot who complained and whined about
everyone and everything. His only saving grace was that he
lived on a boat and sailed once in a while.
But then he hooked up with a two-bit whore TV named LP. It
was all downhill after that. The low spot was when he joined
the 'flonkers' to try and disrupt this NG. Sadly, he is in
the 'loser column' now.

So? What's any of that got to do with me? You can call anybody a loser you
want. Why should I care? Sounds to me like Capt. Neal really stuck it to you
guys. Stuck it in and broke it off if five years later you'all are still crying
crocodile tears about it. And so preoccupied. If he's a loser, what's that make
you all? Loser groupies?
Get over it..... You can't win them all. You say he complained and whined. Mister,
ain't that exactly what you, Tom, Joe, Katy, Capt. JG, who else? Uhhhhhh, Leyland,
Charlie Morgan, and Dave have been doing for the past five years? More whining
that sailing for sure. You'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

Cheers,
Ellen

Scotty,

It's useless to reply to a "Sock-puppet" The group as a whole knows
Neal's identity. The only one who believes the group doesn't know who
Ellen is; is NEAL. Playing the game with him only makes him sicker.

Ellen has no identity other than what Neal has created for Her.

I know when you posted to her you were aware you were addressing Neal,
You are totally correct about; "All down hill"


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