Dry 1 wrote:
Mooron we need you back, please reply to the silly woma-men.


Ellen MacArthur wrote:


"Ellen MacArthur" wrote

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote

"Joe" wrote

U.S. Coast Guard | November 29, 2006
Jacksonville, FL. - The Coast Guard has removed a man found on a barge
this morning whose sailing vessel collided with a tug and barge today
at about 5a.m.

Russell Joseph Bolton, 51, of Green Cove Springs, Fla., was sailing off
the coast of St. Augustine, Fla., when his 33-foot sailing vessel
collided with a 115-foot barge being towed by the 70-foot Ybor City.
Bolton was able to jump on to the barge before being thrown in the
water.

The crew of the American-flagged Ybor City was unaware that the sailing
vessel collided with their barge and spotted Bolton this morning at
about 10 a.m. The crew of Ybor City thought that Bolton may have been a
stowaway and called Coast Guard rescue coordinators at Sector
Jacksonville.

The rescue coordinators sent a boarding team to from Coast Guard
Station Mayport, Fla., along with a Customs and Border Protection
officer to board the barge. The Coast Guard boarding team handcuffed
Bolton until they could determine he was not a threat to their safety.


*******s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They should've arrested the captain of the tow boat. He violated the
Colregs. He should've kept clear of the sailboat.
Did you notice how it was reported. Biased like snot in favor of the
motor boat. It said the sailboat collided with the barge. Duh! It was the other
way around 10 to 1!!!! I bet the tow/barge wasn't showing RAM lights/shapes.
That's why you gotta know your rights. People and the reporters will
make you look guilty even when your innocent.

And another thing.....
Was unaware. Duh! What ever happened to keeping a proper lookout? That's strike two!
Probably sleeping. Not the sailboat captain. I mean the tow boat captain and crew.

I'm getting more horrified all the time. Five hours it took them to see somebody
on their barge. So much for keeping a proper lookout. It proves they're negligent.

Cheers,
Ellen


Why would Mooron want to talk to "Ellen"? He's totally hetero...

"Joe" wrote:
U.S. Coast Guard | November 29, 2006
Jacksonville, FL. - The Coast Guard has removed a man
found on a barge
this morning whose sailing vessel collided with a tug and
barge today
at about 5a.m.

Was _he_ nekkid too?

Seahag

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Joe" wrote
Unaware was what I found amazing, hence the title.


Good job, Joe! Did you notice Jeff and Otn have nothing to say about it?
Did you notice too how it's always the motor boat's fault every time there's a
collision? Then reporters act like sailboaters just go around hitting things. Duh!


Cheers,
Ellen

Could have been the sailboats fault.

We havent heard the whole story, just one side of it. I can understand
how you may not feel the barge take out a little sailboat like a
coronado 28 or a Tangerine.

It's the 5 hr not knowing someones on a barge that has me scratching my
head.

Joe

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


*******s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They should've arrested the captain of the tow boat. He violated
the
Colregs. He should've kept clear of the sailboat.
Did you notice how it was reported. Biased like snot in favor of
the
motor boat. It said the sailboat collided with the barge. Duh! It was
the other way around 10 to 1!!!! I bet the tow/barge wasn't showing
RAM lights/shapes.
That's why you gotta know your rights. People and the reporters
will
make you look guilty even when your innocent.

Cheers,
Ellen



BG ....and he should have been showing RAM lights....why?

otn

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"Joe" wrote
Unaware was what I found amazing, hence the title.


Good job, Joe! Did you notice Jeff and Otn have nothing to say
about it?
Did you notice too how it's always the motor boat's fault every time
there's a collision? Then reporters act like sailboaters just go
around hitting things. Duh!


Cheers,
Ellen



I can't speak for Jeff, missy, but unlike you, I don't make judgements
based on scanty information.....EG....probably why you have so much
trouble understanding and applying the "Rules".

otn

You called Neal missy!!!

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"Joe" wrote
Unaware was what I found amazing, hence the title.


Good job, Joe! Did you notice Jeff and Otn have nothing to say
about it?
Did you notice too how it's always the motor boat's fault every time
there's a collision? Then reporters act like sailboaters just go
around hitting things. Duh!


Cheers,
Ellen



I can't speak for Jeff, missy, but unlike you, I don't make judgements
based on scanty information.....EG....probably why you have so much
trouble understanding and applying the "Rules".

otn

Capt. JG wrote:
You called Neal missy!!!

it's katytype for messy

On 30 Nov 2006 19:58:54 -0800, "Joe" wrote:


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Joe" wrote
Unaware was what I found amazing, hence the title.


Good job, Joe! Did you notice Jeff and Otn have nothing to say about it?
Did you notice too how it's always the motor boat's fault every time there's a
collision? Then reporters act like sailboaters just go around hitting things. Duh!


Cheers,
Ellen

Could have been the sailboats fault.

If it is anything like the coal barges running the Gulf Intercoastal,
that is more than likely the case. Probably channel bound with
limited ability to manuever even if he knew the sailboat was there.
Says "in tow" . Mean pushed or truly in tow? If in tow and the barge
hit him, then he was on collusion with the barge to start with,
providing the tow train was not turning. If so, why did he not just
come about and avoid?

Course it could have been that both were in a channel and passing.

We havent heard the whole story, just one side of it. I can understand
how you may not feel the barge take out a little sailboat like a
coronado 28 or a Tangerine.

That kind of tonnage differential. Not likely with a 33', however
would it not have shown up on radar?



It's the 5 hr not knowing someones on a barge that has me scratching my
head.

Not enough info. Was the guy holed up in a barge compartment or doing
calistinics on the deck. Was there fog.

Sailing in an area of high barge train traffic, I always relied on
"common sense" to make sure I avoided anything using the intercoastal
that looked like they needed to be there more than I did.

Frank

Joe

"otnmbrd" wrote
BG ....and he should have been showing RAM lights....why?

If he was RAM and showing shapes/lights then it was the sailboat's fault for not giving way.
If he wasn't RAM it was his fault for not giving way. Sailboats have to keep clear of RAMs
but RAMs have to identify themselves so people know what they are. Towboats are motorboats
unless they're RAM so they have to keep clear of sailboats.
They said it happened off the coast near St. Augustine, FL. That means open water so they
can't claim narrow channels and all that shall not impede stuff. If it was in a channel they'd
have said it happened in the channel not off the coast. Duh.
If you ever sailed a little sailboat you'd know we spend most of our time looking for and
worrying about motorboats hitting us. Sailboats just don't go around hitting things. For one thing
it's hard to hit things. We go so slow. Even if you try to hit a motorboat it's not that easy to do.....
Be honest now. Don't you think the reporting made it sound like the sailboat was in the wrong?
How's about some fair and balanced once in a while. A man gets run down by a tow boat barge and
then gets treated like a criminal. He lost his boat and coulda lost his life. Where's the justice?

Cheers,
Ellen

There's gonna be trouble now! Hahahahaha!

Seahag

"Capt. JG" wrote:
You called Neal missy!!!

"otnmbrd" wrote:

I can't speak for Jeff, missy, but unlike you, I don't
make judgements
based on scanty information.....EG....probably why you
have so much
trouble understanding and applying the "Rules".

otn