Australia helped Saddam's dictatorship
 

Sorry, the reason the country is a magnet for radical islamists is because
we got rid of Saddam in the bass ackwards way possible. It was totally
unnecessary, and the result is chaos and civil war, a problem that is not
solvable. Bushco refuses to acknowledge the facts either on the ground or
why things are the way they are.

You need to get out more. You're reliving the reasons why we failed in
Vietnam, thinking that it'll all be ok if we stay the course.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Two different things?????

Yes. Saddam is out...mission accomplished.

New problem..the country is now a magnet for radical islamist,
insurgents.
They are the fellows making the roadside bombs ect...supported by
countries like Iran and former members of Saddam terrorist group the
fattayene(sp?)

And the locals would rather kill each other than share and get along.
All they have known since the Saddam took over is leadership thru
murder and terror, hard for them to adjust i guess, let's hope the new
elected leadership with our limited help can bring about stability.

They're totally related. They're totally Bush's
doing. How are they not related??????

Dealing with Islamist terrorist's, and the people who harbor and
support them is now SOP.

That may change in the first 100 hrs, but until then thats how I see
it.

Terrorist and those harboring and supporting islamist terrorist have
been doing it since the late 1960's. Countries should understand we
will come after and keep after them until they change or die, even if
they do not like us. Thats not going to change is it?

We are not going back to the hit the snooze button and wait days are
we?
I do not think the islamist fanatics are going to change, do you?

This seems to be a global war now Jon, jihad been going on before we
took out Saddam and will be around long after Bush is out of office.
The question is how are we going to deal with it? Should we roll over
and give in to murdering cowards? Guys who find glory cutting your head
off in the name of allah. Wait to act until we get hit here again? Do
you need to see rice a ronnie trollies in SF loaded with suicide
bombers before you feel a need to react and deal with the problem?

Joe






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"Joe" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article .com,
Joe wrote:

Just keep your head up your ass Jon.

So, you have nothing logical or even intelligent to say, and thus we
get this from you. That's pretty sad Joe. Why don't you sign up to
fight in Iraq. I'm sure they could use you.


Face it, taking out Sddam and whats happening now in Iraq are 2
different things. The people who have been attacking us since 1977
(radical Islamist) are now taking us on in Iraq. We captured weapons
yeaterday that were shipped in to the insurgents from Iran, just made
in Iran. Hammas is overthrowing it's elected govt today. The mid-terms
again emboldened the terrorist as they now know our resolve has again
hit the snooze button.

But WTF... those first 100 hr's are going to put an end to the BS, and
Bushco will get the thrashing they deserve.

Joe

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Australia helped Saddam's dictatorship
 

Jonathan... I'm pretty certain you and I have always been
in agreement about our dismay over the invasion of Iraq...
based on the justifications that were given back then.

Then again I have since tried to keep an open mind looking
for "a method behind all this madness"... so to speak.

I now suspect that this administrations has all along adopted
a "Machiavellianism" type of philosphy in trying to deal with a
very serious world wide threat... much less to our country and
the Israelis.

Hence the credibility gap that you and I were suspect of from
the git-go. But I'm certain that had the American public been
told the "cold hard truth" at that time we would have had difficulties
coping with it. Look at what American sentiment was prior to our
entry in World War II.

Time will tell... whether this administration's intent and tactics
are the answer to dealing with a very serious situation.

Note: I do wish that having once decided to invade and occupy
Iraq that more ground troops were employed. But that decision
would possibly require a draft which brings us back to square one...
public opinion and reaction.

Tis a difficult and complex situation that exists... regardless of
our political leanings.

Bill

Australia helped Saddam's dictatorship
 

OzOne wrote:


It was a stupid move by a stupid govt who had no grasp of history for
starters.

To bad UN sanctions were twarted by OZ thiefs and traitors.
How can sactions be effective if thiefs are on the take?

Joe




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Australia helped Saddam's dictatorship
 

OzOne wrote:
On 1 Dec 2006 15:40:33 -0800, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote:


It was a stupid move by a stupid govt who had no grasp of history for
starters.

To bad UN sanctions were twarted by OZ thiefs and traitors.
How can sactions be effective if thiefs are on the take?

Joe

Thieves and traitors?
Nah, just businessmen trying to feed a nation that was starving
because of ineffective sanctions.


ineffective because of traitors and thieves. So ineffective because of
all the traitors he had no fear of the UN or USA. Oh well we will see
how he feels swinging from the gallows..no thanks to 11 of your
countrymen.

Heard the latest ones that your clown prince has had imposed on Nth
Korea?
No more Cognac, cigars or DVD players.......

Man o man...thats like kicking Kimmie in the nuts. We should ban gucci
sunglasses imports as well.

Joe


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.