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Ringmaster November 20th 06 04:55 AM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
Can't believe these folks were out Friday night with kids on board in
the cold. The kicker is that these rocks are lighted!




katy November 20th 06 05:38 AM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
Ringmaster wrote:
Can't believe these folks were out Friday night with kids on board in
the cold. The kicker is that these rocks are lighted!



Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the rock...

Scotty November 20th 06 01:38 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
is that White Rocks?

I like the guys comment about sailboats don't usually travel
at night because they need to be under sail to move.

Scotty



"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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Can't believe these folks were out Friday night with kids

on board in
the cold. The kicker is that these rocks are lighted!






Martin Baxter November 20th 06 02:00 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
OzOne wrote:

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:38:39 -0500, katy
scribbled thusly:

Ringmaster wrote:
Can't believe these folks were out Friday night with kids on board in
the cold. The kicker is that these rocks are lighted!



Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the rock...


What a crock!!!!!
Mistakes happen...have you never made one?


I'm with you there Oz, it's a sickening feeling watching your boat grind
on rocks, been there, don't want the t-shirt.

Cheers
Marty


katy November 20th 06 02:01 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:38:39 -0500, katy
scribbled thusly:


Ringmaster wrote:

Can't believe these folks were out Friday night with kids on board in
the cold. The kicker is that these rocks are lighted!




Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the rock...



What a crock!!!!!
Mistakes happen...have you never made one?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.


I live 10 miles from the Atlantic on the East Coast..I know what the
conditions were like on Friday. samll craft advisories were up...and
they took their kids out in that? The CH also had to rescue a guy whi
was board sailing...his mast broke and he ended up offshore...and no...I
don't make those kinds of mistakes. Especially with kids aboard.

Scotty November 20th 06 02:23 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 

"katy" wrote in


Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the

rock...


She was pregnant.



DSK November 20th 06 02:25 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the rock...

OzOne wrote:
What a crock!!!!!
Mistakes happen...have you never made one?



Martin Baxter wrote:
I'm with you there Oz, it's a sickening feeling watching your boat grind
on rocks, been there, don't want the t-shirt.


True enough, anyone can make mistakes. OTOH there are
mistakes anybody could make, then there are mistakes one
makes only if careless or stupid.

Taking kids out in bad weather (predicted to get worse, and
cold to boot) is something that only skilled sailors should
do... except they probably wouldn't. Hitting rocks at night,
even if lit, is an easier mistake to make. I got the
impression the people waited helplessly for rescue, also not
something a skilled sailor would be likely to do.

"Learn from the mistakes of others, you can't possibly live
long enough to make all of them yourself." -wise old saying.

DSK


Martin Baxter November 20th 06 03:00 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
DSK wrote:

Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the rock...


OzOne wrote:
What a crock!!!!!
Mistakes happen...have you never made one?



Martin Baxter wrote:
I'm with you there Oz, it's a sickening feeling watching your boat grind
on rocks, been there, don't want the t-shirt.


True enough, anyone can make mistakes. OTOH there are
mistakes anybody could make, then there are mistakes one
makes only if careless or stupid.

Taking kids out in bad weather (predicted to get worse, and
cold to boot) is something that only skilled sailors should
do... except they probably wouldn't. Hitting rocks at night,
even if lit, is an easier mistake to make. I got the
impression the people waited helplessly for rescue, also not
something a skilled sailor would be likely to do.


True enough, it'd be nice to get the whole story, like why they were out
there. There might be some good reason for it, although I can't think of
one right now. I'm not familiar with the area, maybe they thought that
since they were inland the weather wasn't going to be so bad? (But why
in hell would anyone want to go night sailing on a cold November night
in an area you weren't familiar with?)

Cheers
Marty
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Martin Baxter November 20th 06 03:02 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in


Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the

rock...

She was pregnant.


Ah, now there could be a nefarious plan here.......

Cheers
Marty

Jeff November 20th 06 03:18 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
Scotty wrote:
is that White Rocks?


Yes, that's what it looks like. The channel is about a mile wide
there, but we don't know where they were headed.


I like the guys comment about sailboats don't usually travel
at night because they need to be under sail to move.


We all know there's no wind at night. Except that day it was blowing
20+ knots, and even at night it was over 10 knots. Temps were around
55 during the day, dropping to the mid 40's overnight.

Not the best time for sailing, but probably they were expecting to be
in by sunset. The report said this "unfolded on the 6PM news" so it
sounds like they thought they'd be powering in by sunset but the
engine died.

katy November 20th 06 04:10 PM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in

Should have rescued the kids and left the parents on the


rock...


She was pregnant.


And they went out in those conditions? Really really stupid....

Scotty November 21st 06 12:04 AM

Friday night sail - stupid
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty wrote:
is that White Rocks?


Yes, that's what it looks like. The channel is about a

mile wide
there, but we don't know where they were headed.


I like the guys comment about sailboats don't usually

travel
at night because they need to be under sail to move.


We all know there's no wind at night. Except that day it

was blowing
20+ knots, and even at night it was over 10 knots. Temps

were around
55 during the day, dropping to the mid 40's overnight.

Not the best time for sailing, but probably they were

expecting to be
in by sunset. The report said this "unfolded on the 6PM

news" so it
sounds like they thought they'd be powering in by sunset

but the
engine died.


That's what I was thinking, they were returning from a sail
when something happened. Looks like the head sail is
ripped.



WJZ's Mike Hellgren talked to Anne Arundel County fire
officials, who say the boat suffered a mechanical problem.
That coupled with strong winds caused the sailor to lose
control of the boat.



Ringmaster November 21st 06 05:26 AM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
It was the "White Rocks" just outside of Rock Creek which is the creek
I sail out of. The party on the boat in question set out late in the
afternoon headed for Baltimore. Somebody I know saw them on the water
from the Key Bridge with full sail in a big breeze. They said the
boat's rail was buried and they didn't appear to be making headway.
Everybody is thinking they got out there and decided it wasn't a nice
day so they headed back. I think the tiller broke on the boat. How
they wound up stuffed in the rocks is anybody's guess. I would think
if you dropped sails and motored there wouldn't be any real load on the
stub that was left for a tiller and you could get where you wanted.
Another friend of mine who belongs to our club was out sailing and he
thought it would be a good idea to head back in. He saw the boat in
the rocks and raced back to the dock to call the Coast Guard.


Ringmaster November 21st 06 05:30 AM

Friday night sail - stupid
 
I like the guys comment about sailboats don't usually travel
at night because they need to be under sail to move.

That guy is obviously a dimwit. I see more sailboats on the water
after dark than power boats.



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