Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Personally I think Senator Kerry let some of his private thoughts come out. He really
does think soldiers are stupid and uneducated and he's smart and educated.
But, let's say this time Kerry just told a bad joke about Mr. Bush. Let's give him the
benefit of the doubt. OK?
So then you have to ask what's worse? Being twice elected President of the United States
and *stuck in Iraq* or being a losing presidential candidate and being *stuck on stupid*?
The Senator's trying to lie his way out of a huge blunder. He looks stupid and proves why
he's a loser.
This is God dealing a death blow . A death blow to Democrats of getting control of Congress...


Cheers,
Ellen

P.S. Even the *stupid soldiers* are making fun of the Senator. http://www.drudgereport.com/irak.jpg

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
Personally I think Senator Kerry let some of his private thoughts come out. He really
does think soldiers are stupid and uneducated and he's smart and educated.
But, let's say this time Kerry just told a bad joke about Mr. Bush. Let's give him the
benefit of the doubt. OK?
So then you have to ask what's worse? Being twice elected President of the United States
and *stuck in Iraq* or being a losing presidential candidate and being *stuck on stupid*?
The Senator's trying to lie his way out of a huge blunder. He looks stupid and proves why
he's a loser.
This is God dealing a death blow . A death blow to Democrats of getting control of Congress...


Cheers,
Ellen

P.S. Even the *stupid soldiers* are making fun of the Senator. http://www.drudgereport.com/irak.jpg

MY GOD, Kerry isnt smart, he's a lawyer. My dog could pass the bar
exam with some training. Law school is for people who are just smart
enough to pass liberal arts with good grades.

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wrote
| Law school is for people who are just smart
| enough to pass liberal arts with good grades.


Your 100% right there, O'Hara. Our Dave proves it.....

Cheers,
Ellen

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
This is God dealing a death blow . A death blow to Democrats of getting control of Congress...


It is exactly this kind of delusional thinking that got us into the mess
we're in in Iraq. We're winning, right? Success is just around the
corner, right?

But that's ok. You just keep whistling there, dude.

//Walt

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"Walt" wrote
| We're winning, right?

Yes, we're winning. The terrorists are over there. They don't seem to be hitting our
big buildings with airplanes again. They haven't done anything over here. They're killing
each other off over there instead. I call that winning.... Our soldiers are are winning.

|Success is just around the corner, right?

Exactly wrong! Success happened about two years ago when we got Saddam. Success
is happening all the time because the terrorists are fighting over there. They aren't here. Duh!


| But that's ok. You just keep whistling there, dude.

That's *Dame*, Dame Ellen MacArthur! :-)


Cheers,
Ellen

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:

| But that's ok. You just keep whistling there, dude.

That's *Dame*, Dame Ellen MacArthur! :-)

Any relation to Dame Edna?

//Walt

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Walt" wrote
| We're winning, right?

Yes, we're winning. The terrorists are over there. They don't seem to
be hitting our
big buildings with airplanes again. They haven't done anything over here.
They're killing
each other off over there instead. I call that winning.... Our soldiers
are are winning.

|Success is just around the corner, right?

Exactly wrong! Success happened about two years ago when we got
Saddam. Success
is happening all the time because the terrorists are fighting over there.
They aren't here. Duh!


| But that's ok. You just keep whistling there, dude.

That's *Dame*, Dame Ellen MacArthur! :-)


Cheers,
Ellen

If Bush's terrorist policy is a failure then look at Clinton's. All the
embassies, WTC #1, airliners etc. Clinton did nothing and the terrorists
operated with impunity.

Vote Democrat and get another WTC.

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A better question is "Any relation to humanity?"

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"Walt" wrote in message
...
Ellen MacArthur wrote:

| But that's ok. You just keep whistling there, dude.

That's *Dame*, Dame Ellen MacArthur! :-)

Any relation to Dame Edna?

//Walt

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Did nothing? Did you smoke too much wacky tabacy today?

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Walt" wrote
| We're winning, right?

Yes, we're winning. The terrorists are over there. They don't seem to
be hitting our
big buildings with airplanes again. They haven't done anything over here.
They're killing
each other off over there instead. I call that winning.... Our soldiers
are are winning.

|Success is just around the corner, right?

Exactly wrong! Success happened about two years ago when we got
Saddam. Success
is happening all the time because the terrorists are fighting over there.
They aren't here. Duh!


| But that's ok. You just keep whistling there, dude.

That's *Dame*, Dame Ellen MacArthur! :-)


Cheers,
Ellen

If Bush's terrorist policy is a failure then look at Clinton's. All the
embassies, WTC #1, airliners etc. Clinton did nothing and the terrorists
operated with impunity.

Vote Democrat and get another WTC.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

I know it's too much to ask of them, but the right-wing nuts in this group
should read The One Percent Doctrine, by Ron Suskind. I guess he must be a
liberal and anti-American, as he won the Pulitzer.

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:46:58 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
scribbled thusly:


"Walt" wrote
| We're winning, right?

Yes, we're winning. The terrorists are over there. They don't seem to
be hitting our
big buildings with airplanes again.

AT WHAT COST fer **** sake!

I'll let you in on a little secret..you'll be pulling out of Iraq in
the next 12 months and leaving that country in far worse shape than it
was before you invaded.

THEN! You'll have a terrorist threat never before imagined!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

OzOne wrote in message


AT WHAT COST fer **** sake!

I'll let you in on a little secret..you'll be pulling out of Iraq in
the next 12 months and leaving that country in far worse shape than it
was before you invaded.

THEN! You'll have a terrorist threat never before imagined!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Should the US have cut and run down in the South Pacific and let the Japs
take Australia?

It would have saved American lives and tied up the Japs with long supply
lines.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Oz, you need to give Gill and those who think like him a break. They're not
into the truth.

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:34:01 -0700, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message


AT WHAT COST fer **** sake!

I'll let you in on a little secret..you'll be pulling out of Iraq in
the next 12 months and leaving that country in far worse shape than it
was before you invaded.

THEN! You'll have a terrorist threat never before imagined!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Should the US have cut and run down in the South Pacific and let the Japs
take Australia?

No thank God...but then again, who was the invader?

Now tell me Gilly...what has that got to do with Iraq wher the US and
a couple of hetr Allies invaded a country with no cause.

Please don't tell me about WMD, terrorists or the afterthought
'humanitarian' reasons.
Try the truth.....


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

I'll tell you about WMD's.

3,000 people killed in NYC on 9-11-2001.

Handguns? No.

Improvised explosive devices? No.

WMD's? Yes.

The WMD's were not the planes. They were the savages that would use any
means at their disposal to come into our country and kill as many innocent
civilians as possible.

The WMD's are the terrorists.

A gun, an atomic bomb, a ICBM is nothing but an extension of the person or
people using it. The US possesses terrible weapons but we are are a moral
country. The most moral country in the history of the world. Iraq had
facilties to train people to become WMD's. Hussien slaughtered his own
people. If you condemn the US more than Iraq you have no moral bearing at
all.

So what do we do? Outlaw planes? They're just like guns only they are WMD's.
No, we go after the savages and the savage cultures that cultivate these
horrible acts and eradicate them.

You can get your panties in a knot over Iraq but we're there now and there's
nothing you can do about it. We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth
both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now,
truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a
choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless
*distinguishable*, postwar environments: one where you got twenty million
people killed, and the other where you got a hundred and fifty million
people killed. Yes, they are on their way in, and no one can bring them
back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I suggest you get
the rest of the Free World in after them. Otherwise, we will be totally
destroyed by Moslem retaliation. Our boys will give you the best kind of
start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now. So
let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in
peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and
essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all.

Either you are with us or against us!

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Politics aside... much less our own security issues but focusing
only on Iraq:

There is no way in Hell that anybody can convince me that this
country (Iraq) and it's citizenry are now better off as a result of
our invasion.

Course that's my own perception of things concerning Iraq... but
I am pretty certain that of the 26,783,383 Iraqi citizens... the
majority have also come to the same conclusion.

Tis a sad situation... for sure... IMHO!

Bill

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Politics aside... much less our own security issues but focusing
only on Iraq:

There is no way in Hell that anybody can convince me that this
country (Iraq) and it's citizenry are now better off as a result of
our invasion.

Course that's my own perception of things concerning Iraq... but
I am pretty certain that of the 26,783,383 Iraqi citizens... the
majority have also come to the same conclusion.

Tis a sad situation... for sure... IMHO!

Bill


Bill,

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

There are 26 million Iraqis. If each picked up a gun and fired a few shots,
they could easily drive us out. Why hasn't this happened? Are they a bunch
of wimps?

It is a sad situation. I don't think Bush should have invaded. More
importantly, the Democrats will make things worse.

Vote Republican!

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Gilligan wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Politics aside... much less our own security issues but focusing
only on Iraq:

There is no way in Hell that anybody can convince me that this
country (Iraq) and it's citizenry are now better off as a result of
our invasion.

Course that's my own perception of things concerning Iraq... but
I am pretty certain that of the 26,783,383 Iraqi citizens... the
majority have also come to the same conclusion.

Tis a sad situation... for sure... IMHO!

Bill


Bill,

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

There are 26 million Iraqis. If each picked up a gun and fired a few shots,
they could easily drive us out. Why hasn't this happened? Are they a bunch
of wimps?

It is a sad situation. I don't think Bush should have invaded. More
importantly, the Democrats will make things worse.

Vote Republican!

Kerry and his buddies have a long history of saying such things about
the American military so there is no doubt about what he meant. He
truly intended to insult the US troops, there is no doubt of that.
Remember, Kerry is the penultimate Democrat, he was their standard
bearer, he represents the party, most Dems agree with Kerry. Now, who
will you vote for?

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Malarki is too busy making deals with Sadir.

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
ups.com...

Politics aside... much less our own security issues but focusing
only on Iraq:

There is no way in Hell that anybody can convince me that this
country (Iraq) and it's citizenry are now better off as a result of
our invasion.

Course that's my own perception of things concerning Iraq... but
I am pretty certain that of the 26,783,383 Iraqi citizens... the
majority have also come to the same conclusion.

Tis a sad situation... for sure... IMHO!

Bill


Bill,

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

There are 26 million Iraqis. If each picked up a gun and fired a few
shots, they could easily drive us out. Why hasn't this happened? Are they
a bunch of wimps?

It is a sad situation. I don't think Bush should have invaded. More
importantly, the Democrats will make things worse.

Vote Republican!

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

You're looney. Bush is a draft dodger and his cabinet is filled with
chickenhawks.

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Gilligan wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Politics aside... much less our own security issues but focusing
only on Iraq:

There is no way in Hell that anybody can convince me that this
country (Iraq) and it's citizenry are now better off as a result of
our invasion.

Course that's my own perception of things concerning Iraq... but
I am pretty certain that of the 26,783,383 Iraqi citizens... the
majority have also come to the same conclusion.

Tis a sad situation... for sure... IMHO!

Bill


Bill,

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

There are 26 million Iraqis. If each picked up a gun and fired a few
shots,
they could easily drive us out. Why hasn't this happened? Are they a
bunch
of wimps?

It is a sad situation. I don't think Bush should have invaded. More
importantly, the Democrats will make things worse.

Vote Republican!

Kerry and his buddies have a long history of saying such things about
the American military so there is no doubt about what he meant. He
truly intended to insult the US troops, there is no doubt of that.
Remember, Kerry is the penultimate Democrat, he was their standard
bearer, he represents the party, most Dems agree with Kerry. Now, who
will you vote for?

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Kerry isn't stupid. He is just an elitist who thinks he
is better than everyone else.

It makes me wonder if the reason Kerry thinks troops are
stupid is because they are willing risking their lives for their
country. After all, he bailed out of Vietnam at the earliest
possibility without achieving his aim of being a war hero.
Obviously he thinks he is too smart and valuable to be
killed--better to let the stupid people get killed off--eh?

He did stick his foot in it. And I agree, there is no
doubt he really believes the typical solder is stupid
and uneducated. It just shows how ill informed he is.
Today's volunteer soldier takes advantage of educational
benefits, is well educated, and uses the military as
a stepping stone for post military life.


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
Personally I think Senator Kerry let some of his private thoughts come out. He really
does think soldiers are stupid and uneducated and he's smart and educated.
But, let's say this time Kerry just told a bad joke about Mr. Bush. Let's give him the
benefit of the doubt. OK?
So then you have to ask what's worse? Being twice elected President of the United States
and *stuck in Iraq* or being a losing presidential candidate and being *stuck on stupid*?
The Senator's trying to lie his way out of a huge blunder. He looks stupid and proves why
he's a loser.
This is God dealing a death blow . A death blow to Democrats of getting control of Congress...


Cheers,
Ellen

P.S. Even the *stupid soldiers* are making fun of the Senator. http://www.drudgereport.com/irak.jpg

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

There are 26 million Iraqis. If each picked up a gun and fired a few
shots, they could easily drive us out. Why hasn't this happened? Are they
a bunch of wimps?

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

It's got to start somewhere... Malarki kicked us out of the roadblocks,
which were set up to look for that missing US translator..

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

There are 26 million Iraqis. If each picked up a gun and fired a few
shots, they could easily drive us out. Why hasn't this happened? Are
they a bunch of wimps?

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

If you keep saying it, then it must be true. Oh wait, that's Karl (Achtung)
Rove's strategy.

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"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
Kerry isn't stupid. He is just an elitist who thinks he
is better than everyone else.

It makes me wonder if the reason Kerry thinks troops are
stupid is because they are willing risking their lives for their
country. After all, he bailed out of Vietnam at the earliest
possibility without achieving his aim of being a war hero.
Obviously he thinks he is too smart and valuable to be
killed--better to let the stupid people get killed off--eh?

He did stick his foot in it. And I agree, there is no
doubt he really believes the typical solder is stupid
and uneducated. It just shows how ill informed he is.
Today's volunteer soldier takes advantage of educational
benefits, is well educated, and uses the military as
a stepping stone for post military life.


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
Personally I think Senator Kerry let some of his private thoughts come
out. He really
does think soldiers are stupid and uneducated and he's smart and
educated.
But, let's say this time Kerry just told a bad joke about Mr. Bush.
Let's give him the
benefit of the doubt. OK?
So then you have to ask what's worse? Being twice elected President
of the United States
and *stuck in Iraq* or being a losing presidential candidate and being
*stuck on stupid*?
The Senator's trying to lie his way out of a huge blunder. He looks
stupid and proves why
he's a loser.
This is God dealing a death blow . A death blow to Democrats of
getting control of Congress...


Cheers,
Ellen

P.S. Even the *stupid soldiers* are making fun of the Senator.
http://www.drudgereport.com/irak.jpg

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:05:08 -0700, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:

Bill,

Why doesn't the Iraqi government ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?


Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

Because they know that they cannot afford to rebuild the country that
we ****ed up without US help.


The US can't afford it either.


The majority of Iraqis just want us out!

Then why don't they ask us to leave?

.....

Your line of reasoning makes no sense. Try again Oz.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:55:26 -0700, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:


. Otherwise, we will be totally
destroyed by Moslem retaliation.

I'm pleased that you accept the role of aggressor.



That one flew over your head. Maybe someone can explain it to you.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

The vast majority of people in Iraq are non-violent and just want to live
their lives.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:03:36 +1100, OzOne said:

Nope, they're sensible non violent people who just want to get on with
their lives.

You demonstrate a profound ignorance of the country's history.

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

"Dave" wrote
| OK, so who's the ultimate Democrat? Inquiring minds want to know.


Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin. Take your pick.


Cheers,
Ellen

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Ellen MacArthur wrote:

"Dave" wrote
| OK, so who's the ultimate Democrat? Inquiring minds want to know.


Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin. Take your pick.

Dr. Godwin says you lose, Neal.

//Walt

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

"Walt" wrote
| Dr. Godwin says you lose, Neal.



Duh! I wonder what news group Walt's posting to.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Off topic Stuck in Iraq vs. Stuck on Stupid....
 

Let's Roll !


"Gilligan" wrote in
message . ..
I'll tell you about WMD's.

3,000 people killed in NYC on 9-11-2001.

Handguns? No.

Improvised explosive devices? No.

WMD's? Yes.

The WMD's were not the planes. They were the savages that
would use any
means at their disposal to come into our country and kill
as many innocent
civilians as possible.

The WMD's are the terrorists.

A gun, an atomic bomb, a ICBM is nothing but an extension
of the person or
people using it. The US possesses terrible weapons but we
are are a moral
country. The most moral country in the history of the
world. Iraq had
facilties to train people to become WMD's. Hussien
slaughtered his own
people. If you condemn the US more than Iraq you have no
moral bearing at
all.

So what do we do? Outlaw planes? They're just like guns
only they are WMD's.
No, we go after the savages and the savage cultures that
cultivate these
horrible acts and eradicate them.

You can get your panties in a knot over Iraq but we're
there now and there's
nothing you can do about it. We are rapidly approaching a
moment of truth
both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our
nation. Now,
truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary
now to make a
choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but
nevertheless
*distinguishable*, postwar environments: one where you got
twenty million
people killed, and the other where you got a hundred and
fifty million
people killed. Yes, they are on their way in, and no one
can bring them
back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I
suggest you get
the rest of the Free World in after them. Otherwise, we
will be totally
destroyed by Moslem retaliation. Our boys will give you
the best kind of
start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't
stop them now. So
let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we
will prevail, in
peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through
the purity and
essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all.

Either you are with us or against us!