Walt wrote:
katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
crap snipped

The livs are trying to cover his butt by saying it was a joke gone bsad
and that he misquoted the original text of the speech...funny how
different peple perceive things in different ways...

He was insulting BUSH. Not the troops.

//Walt

Bush is not in Iraq, our troops are.

Kerry said and I quote.

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you
do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.
If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Did he mean "Do Well" like becoming the Ketchup aires bitch boy? Or
well like a loser canidate for the presidency.

Joe

Joe wrote:

Walt wrote:
katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
crap snipped

The livs are trying to cover his butt by saying it was a joke gone bsad
and that he misquoted the original text of the speech...funny how
different peple perceive things in different ways...

He was insulting BUSH. Not the troops.

//Walt

Bush is not in Iraq, our troops are.

Kerry said and I quote.

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you
do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.
If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

You sure you're not friends with Jax? Jax had a hard time with nuance
of language too.

Just what is Kerry running for this time? Kerry no more speaks for the
Dems than Foley speaks for the Reps.

Then again I keep forgetting that you believe the nonsense spouted by
the Swift Boat liars.


Cheers
Marty
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Martin Baxter wrote:

Just what is Kerry running for this time? Kerry no more speaks for the
Dems than Foley speaks for the Reps.

Understand what's going on here. The Republicans are getting creamed in
the polls and they're feeling desparate. Bush is campaiging hard to
energize the base, - unfortunately for him, he's mostly energizing the
other side.

What better way to turn this around than by parading the boogey man
Kerry to bring out the usual whackjobs who salivate at the sound of a
flipflop? It's last minute desperation politics. This election is a
referendum on Bush and and the one-party-rule that we've endured for the
last six years - and instead of running on their record, they're running
away from it. Look over there! ZOMFG! It's Kerry-stein! OH NOES!!



//Walt

Martin Baxter wrote:


Then again I keep forgetting that you believe the nonsense spouted by
the Swift Boat liars.

http://www.independentsforkerry.org/...ew-soldier.jpg

Favorite book of libs that like to spit on the troops.

Joe



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Bush is stuck on Iraq, perhaps not in it, but that's close enough for me.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Walt wrote:
katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
crap snipped

The livs are trying to cover his butt by saying it was a joke gone bsad
and that he misquoted the original text of the speech...funny how
different peple perceive things in different ways...

He was insulting BUSH. Not the troops.

//Walt

Bush is not in Iraq, our troops are.

Kerry said and I quote.

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you
do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.
If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Did he mean "Do Well" like becoming the Ketchup aires bitch boy? Or
well like a loser canidate for the presidency.

Joe

Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.

We won the War but are rather rapidly Losing the Peace. Iraq is not a
US colony. Let's get our "Military Ass" out of there

AND;---- I hope Kerry doesn't run against the GOP in '08. I have to
agree, he is a FN.

I truly want to vote against "George 2nd" I don't think I could Vote for
Kerry.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

I don't think I could either. I hope he goes quietly. Despite the fact that
he was clearly slamming Bush, he was so ham-handed about it.....

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.

We won the War but are rather rapidly Losing the Peace. Iraq is not a
US colony. Let's get our "Military Ass" out of there

AND;---- I hope Kerry doesn't run against the GOP in '08. I have to
agree, he is a FN.

I truly want to vote against "George 2nd" I don't think I could Vote for
Kerry.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.


Democrats in Congress voted to put our troops there. Congress has the power
to declare war. Why did the Senate vote 70-23?

Gilly,

Do you think it might have been the same lies about weapons of mass
destruction that we all believed?
-------------------------------------------------
Democrats in Congress voted to put our troops there. Congress has the
power to declare war. Why did the Senate vote 70-23?


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Gilly,

Do you think it might have been the same lies about weapons of mass
destruction that we all believed?

Thom,

It was about cowardice. When 9/11 happened a good number of people let their
emotions get the best of them. They wanted revenge and quashed all dissent
and branded anyone who said "wait a minute, let's think this thing through"
as a traitor.

The time to stand up to this was when it first happened. There were very few
who did. Here, in ASA, it was only the Navigator and he predicted the
outcome. In the US government it was those politicians who went went the
tide so they could get relected. It was relection over principle and good of
the country.

Both Republicans and Democrats are to blame. Congress failed to do its job.
The reason we are in such a mess is that a majority of people did not use
their heads.

Look at the debates here. It is either extreme right or extreme left. Very
little middle ground, no application of principles or morals, just party
politics and political expediency. Who is thinking out of the box or
thinking about the much larger picture of why these messes continually
happen regardless of who or what runs the country? No one questions the
actual system, they just simply want their guy running it.You can put Mario
Andretti behind the wheel of a soap box derby car but he isn't going to win
the Indy 500 no matter what. The amount of power in the hands of politicians
gaurantees that we will never have peace, equity, or a goal of the common
good. That day will come when Americans take back the responsibilities of
their own lives and reduce the scope of government - an anathema to
eitherpolitical party.
"The turn will come when we entrust the conduct of our affairs to men who
understand that their first duty as public officials is to divest themselves
of the power they have been given. It will come when Americans, in hundreds
of communities throughout the nation, decide to put the man in office who is
pledged to enforce the Constitution and restore the Republic. Who will
proclaim in a campaign speech: "I have little interest in streamlining
government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I
do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim
is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new
programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or
that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an
unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether
legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is
constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for
neglecting my constituents' 'interests,' I shall reply that I was informed
their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very
best I can." Barry M. Goldwater