John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Peter" wrote in message
oups.com...
Capt. JG wrote:
Never said an age... I would be happy to serve in some capacity, although
I
don't think I would be very effective shooting at people.

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www.sailnow.com

No worries. Always a demand for people to clear land mines, car bombs
and the like....

PDW


LOL. Good one, Pete.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Nothing... the right-wingnuts are in deep, deep trouble however, so
bashing Kerry is about all they have left.

There is no doubt that Kerry handed the GOP a gift wrapped in gold leaf.
But it's probably not enough to bail them out of what will likely result in
a shift of congressional power and subsequent gridlock.

What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary, Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone like
John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote in message
...

You guys crack me up!
Because of something that one person says, something that may or may
not have been a badly spun joke, you're prepared to forget everything
that GWB has done 'for' your country and vote his politics back into
power......

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

It's funny for Ozzy. He has absolutely nothing at stake in this election.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Dave wrote:

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:40:00 -0500, Walt said:


Why do you find it so difficult?

Because they're opposite notions.

Please answer my other questions.

Hey, you're the one who seems to think that forced labor is somehow
compatible with freedom. The onus is on you.

How do you explain to an 18 year old that "freedom" means submitting
himself to the abslolute rule of others?

I'm waiting.



// Walt

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Walt" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:40:00 -0500, Walt
said:


Why do you find it so difficult?

Because they're opposite notions.

Please answer my other questions.

Hey, you're the one who seems to think that forced labor is somehow
compatible with freedom. The onus is on you.

How do you explain to an 18 year old that "freedom" means submitting
himself to the abslolute rule of others?

I'm waiting.

To be consistent then you must also believe that taxation is theft.

Who wants to pay for a cause they don't believe in. Forcing people to work
to pay taxes is a form of involuntary servitude.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Listen to the full text of his apology. He doesn't sound
contrite to me.

katy wrote:
I heard what he said...and like I said, it's funny how different people
hear different things...

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:

crap snipped

Shut up, Glen. Adults are trying to have a conversation.



// Walt

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Yeah, if you don't mind working in the ever-expanding fast food industry...

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:53:29 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
scribbled thusly:


"thunder" wrote
| Asking a few to risk it all, over, and over, and over,
| is bull****.

Nobody held a gun to their head and made them enlist. Nobody holds
a gun to their head and makes them re-up.
Duh. They do it because they're patriots. You hold their hands like they
were little kids. You don't give them any credit.
You act like they're stupid and helpless.This insults them. Your as bad
as Senator Kerry.

Cheers,
Ellen

Actually Cappy..many enlist because it's the only way they can get a
regular income

Bull****. Unemployment here is at its lowest level in a generation. Jobs
are plentiful.

You sound like Kerry: elitist.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Max, I think you should apologize. This is totally despicable, saying that
our military men and women should be used for these things.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"Peter" wrote in message
oups.com...
Capt. JG wrote:
Never said an age... I would be happy to serve in some capacity,
although I
don't think I would be very effective shooting at people.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

No worries. Always a demand for people to clear land mines, car bombs
and the like....

PDW


LOL. Good one, Pete.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

With more than 100 US soldiers dead this month in Iraq, I don't think
Kerry's comment will have much influence on how people vote. The violence
there is out of control.

--
"j" ganz @@
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Nothing... the right-wingnuts are in deep, deep trouble however, so
bashing Kerry is about all they have left.

There is no doubt that Kerry handed the GOP a gift wrapped in gold leaf.
But it's probably not enough to bail them out of what will likely result
in a shift of congressional power and subsequent gridlock.

What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary, Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone
like John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

You're joking right? Aussie-land has a lot to win or lose by what we do or
don't do in a week.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote in message
...

You guys crack me up!
Because of something that one person says, something that may or may
not have been a badly spun joke, you're prepared to forget everything
that GWB has done 'for' your country and vote his politics back into
power......

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

It's funny for Ozzy. He has absolutely nothing at stake in this election.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Maxprop wrote:


What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary, Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone like
John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Looking at it from this great Socialist bastion to your north, I have to
agree with you. I don't think the Dems have a chance, no matter who they
nominate, the poor ******* will be like a race horse with two jockeys
facing opposite directions.

Cheers
Marty

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Walt" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:

crap snipped

Shut up, Glen. Adults are trying to have a conversation.


Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:52:04 -0700, "Gilligan"
said:

Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

No need to do that Gilly. I'm simply letting Glen's absurd nonsense fall
of
its own weight.

Gilly? Glen? Typo? ?????????

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Dave wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:52:04 -0700, "Gilligan" said:
crap snipped

I'm simply letting Glen's absurd nonsense fall of
its own weight.

Yeah, I've been taking that approach with Glen as well. The more he
rants, the more ridiculous he sounds.



//Walt

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Walt wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:52:04 -0700, "Gilligan" said:
crap snipped

I'm simply letting Glen's absurd nonsense fall of
its own weight.

Yeah, I've been taking that approach with Glen as well. The more he
rants, the more ridiculous he sounds.



//Walt

Are you not submitting to servatude/rule of others by paying taxes?

I would not pay so much if I were not forced to. And if I felt the need
to give to my country lots-0-cash, I assure you I could do a better job
of spending the money then the politicans/govt. does.

BTW I joined the military to travel and go to sea, I could have made
more money elsewhere.

Joe

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"thunder" wrote
| Asking a few to risk it all, over, and over, and over,
| is bull****.

Nobody held a gun to their head and made them enlist. Nobody holds a gun to their head and makes them re-up.
Duh. They do it because they're patriots.

Is that the only reason? Hm. While I am patriotic, I served for 21
years for a host of other reasons. You get a nice retirement; you get
good educational benefits (the main reason that I joined back in 1984,
BTW. I was a starving college student.); you get medical, dental, cheap
life insurance, a chance to see the world, adventure, and a sense on
comeraderie.

What do the soldiers themselves say?

"With an improving economy in 2004 as measured by unemployment rate,
recruiters have experienced challenges to signing up new recruits.
Although access to post-high school opportunities has expanded in
recent years, research suggests that the Service recruiting campaigns
are having an impact on the youth of our country. Among today's
youth, the military is perceived as providing opportunities, furthering
education, helping individuals grow and mature, and contributing to the
country."

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html

Some people do it because it's the only way to break out of the slums,
or to get trained on a certain job, or for many, many other reasons.

You hold their hands like they were little kids. You don't give them any credit.

You've obviously never commanded a military unit. Sometimes, even
often, it's very much like parenting young children.

You act like they're stupid and helpless.This insults them. Your as bad as Senator Kerry.

Personally, I think a draft would be a good thing. With an
all-volunteer military you end up with a military class much like the
Romans had. Diluting it by rotating non-professionals through is not a
bad thing. And sharing the burden is the right thing to do. You are not
considering, for example, the impact of multiple deployments on
military families, among other things (and from the party whose mantra
is 'family values.' LOL!). And most enlisted soldiers do come from
poorer socio-economic backgrounds.

That's one reason why officers get commissioned through multiple
sources. The fear is that if all officers only come through the service
academies, there's a much higher likelihood of a coup, or other 'bad'
stuff happening. If you dilute the officers from the academies with
ROTC, OCS, direct, and other commissioning sources, this is less likely
to occur. A draft, or a national service requirement, can serve the
same purpose. Deferments should be excluded. That would mean that even
Dick Cheney would have to serve.

I find it amusing that the people who have never served seem to have
the strongest opinions about the military.

So now this election now becomes a referendum on John Kerry in some
people's minds. LOL! The stupidity of some people never fails to amuse
me.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.

We won the War but are rather rapidly Losing the Peace. Iraq is not a
US colony. Let's get our "Military Ass" out of there

AND;---- I hope Kerry doesn't run against the GOP in '08. I have to
agree, he is a FN.

I truly want to vote against "George 2nd" I don't think I could Vote for
Kerry.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...


Are you not submitting to servatude/rule of others by paying taxes?

I would not pay so much if I were not forced to. And if I felt the need
to give to my country lots-0-cash, I assure you I could do a better job
of spending the money then the politicans/govt. does.

BTW I joined the military to travel and go to sea, I could have made
more money elsewhere.

Joe


Joe,

If your neighbor came over and demanded 45% of your pay else he would lock
you up or confiscate your possessions - in some states it would be legal to
shoot him.

If several of your neighbors came over and did the same, it's still theft.

If the majority of the people in Texas did that to you it is still theft.

Only legitimate government has the power to tax. It is a delegated power in
the Constitution.

The Constitution also gives Congress the power to "raise and support Armies"
and "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into
Execution the foregoing Powers,"

A draft at some times is necessary and proper to raise an Army.


What is striking is that the Democrats heavily favor a draft and higher
taxes. Why do they always want to punish people who have comitted no crime?

It's really ridiculous, they condemn the people they send off to war and
they condemn the rich whose money they steal. Why aren't they condemning
themselves for the absolute power they seek?

The Democrats are all about forcing others. Ever hear a Democrat in recent
decades call for lower taxes and more individual freedom? Do they even
mention individuals? They do, but in a negative connotation - "some
wacko-individualist type" or "some selfish individual".

In all this campaigning what have the Democrats stood for? Withdrawal from
a war they just voted us into? Making life simpler and better for Americans
by restructuring the tax code? School choice?

The Democrats are in the back pocket of special interests, particularly the
interests of dying antiquated, dead end ways - teacher's unions and unions
in general, anti-globalization lobby, pseudo science with man causing global
warming and the ozone hole, big government (except for self defense) and a
host of other ridiculous causes. Their solutions are not the get-dirty,
let's fix them type but rather the throw money feel good type.

Look into the junk drawer on your work bench. That is the Democrat party. A
hodge podge of special interests and odd pieces that should have been
discarded a long time ago. There is no unifying philosophy or message except
"we are against the other guys", "we are for more taxes", "we will punish
you", "you should not drive that car". Why such underlying guilt? Why such a
need to control? What kind of people are these? It's a party run amok by
emotion and very little thinking.

Joe, this election is very important. The Democrats haven't offered an
alternative, they just want to punish. Pull that lever for the Republicans.
Eventually the Democrats will offer us a better choice, but they aren't now
or in the near future. The Democrats are running on Republican failures, not
on Democrat strengths.

Get everyone you know to vote Republican.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

It scares me that nutjobs like this are freely roaming the streets of
America.

Gilligan wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:10:42 -0500, Walt
said:

But seriously, how do you reconcile freedom and conscription?

Why do you find it so difficult? Because to you "freedom" means the
absence
of responsibility? The absence of duty?

To liberals freedom means "freedom from" want, need, fear, etc. FDR even
said so. Freedoms for liberals comes from someone else's efforts.

I'm a liberal. To me, freedom means just that. It seems to me the
current crop of so-called conservatives (who in my mind are actually
very radical) want to deny freedom.

So, little buddy, how do you feel about gay marriage, abortion,
separation of church and state, and some of the other issues that help
define freedom?

To real Conservatives freedoms means "freedom to" pursue things as long as
they don't interfere with the fundamental rights of others. Freedom for true
Conservatives is the ability to pursue their own efforts.

Better tell that to the republicans, who want to reduce our rights.

Liberals are belly-aching slackers. Nothing is good enough or everything is
bad they cry! They are dependent and inculcate dependency. It does take a
village for a liberal.

Real Conservatives, such as Barry M. Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and Capt Neal
value independence, work, effort and achievement. Male real Conservatives
are real, manly men. They don't need a village or anything like that. They
don't want people getting in their way or interfering. They have things to
do and places to go. The world rests upon the shoulders of those manly men
and the real women who worship them.

I hope that this is toungue-in-cheek. If not, the conservative slogan
could be, "Conservative. Neanderthal. Period."

I've had my fill of all this Liberal tripe. I'm voting Republican because
that's where the Real Conservatives are. God, guns and guts made America!

I'd have voted for creativity, invention, brains, and hard work.

Amen!

Is that 'blow it out your ass' in some other language?

If so, then Amen.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

I don't think I could either. I hope he goes quietly. Despite the fact that
he was clearly slamming Bush, he was so ham-handed about it.....

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.

We won the War but are rather rapidly Losing the Peace. Iraq is not a
US colony. Let's get our "Military Ass" out of there

AND;---- I hope Kerry doesn't run against the GOP in '08. I have to
agree, he is a FN.

I truly want to vote against "George 2nd" I don't think I could Vote for
Kerry.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

wrote:

The intellectually lazy become lawyers, the moral incompetents then
become senators from MA...

....while the truly dumb become republicans.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.




People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.



(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)


????

Where is it?

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.


Democrats in Congress voted to put our troops there. Congress has the power
to declare war. Why did the Senate vote 70-23?

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...
It scares me that nutjobs like this are freely roaming the streets of
America.

Your knee jerk bias is showing.


Gilligan wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:10:42 -0500, Walt
said:

But seriously, how do you reconcile freedom and conscription?

Why do you find it so difficult? Because to you "freedom" means the
absence
of responsibility? The absence of duty?

To liberals freedom means "freedom from" want, need, fear, etc. FDR even
said so. Freedoms for liberals comes from someone else's efforts.

I'm a liberal. To me, freedom means just that. It seems to me the
current crop of so-called conservatives (who in my mind are actually
very radical) want to deny freedom.

I'm a classic liberal. How can the guy providing the "from" part of your
freedom be as "free" as you?


So, little buddy, how do you feel about gay marriage, abortion,
separation of church and state, and some of the other issues that help
define freedom?

Freedom from abortion, freedom from gay marraige and freedom from separation
of church and state? That's how you define it! "Freedom from"!

Government should not license marriage (freedom TO choose your own partner),
a fetus up until a certain age is a parasite on the woman's body and an
individual has sole dominion over their body (freedom TO own your own body),
state power should be reduced (freedom TO own the fruits of your labors),
separation of state from church - business - individual lives (freedom TO
enter into contracts), free men own guns (freedom TO own guns). Is that too
much freedom for you?





To real Conservatives freedoms means "freedom to" pursue things as long
as
they don't interfere with the fundamental rights of others. Freedom for
true
Conservatives is the ability to pursue their own efforts.

Better tell that to the republicans, who want to reduce our rights.

All Republicans are not Conservatives. Bush is not Conservative. Both
Democrats and Republicans want to reduce our rights. The Republicans in the
bedroom, the Democrats in the wallet.


Liberals are belly-aching slackers. Nothing is good enough or everything
is
bad they cry! They are dependent and inculcate dependency. It does take a
village for a liberal.

Real Conservatives, such as Barry M. Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and Capt
Neal
value independence, work, effort and achievement. Male real
Conservatives
are real, manly men. They don't need a village or anything like that.
They
don't want people getting in their way or interfering. They have things
to
do and places to go. The world rests upon the shoulders of those manly
men
and the real women who worship them.

I hope that this is toungue-in-cheek. If not, the conservative slogan
could be, "Conservative. Neanderthal. Period."

Hey, you're catching on. You may not be a liberal. Liberals have NO sense of
humor. They take themselves and their politiks very seriously.

Read Goldwater's 1964 Acceptance Speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...aterspeech.htm



I've had my fill of all this Liberal tripe. I'm voting Republican
because
that's where the Real Conservatives are. God, guns and guts made America!

I'd have voted for creativity, invention, brains, and hard work.

Better yet, vote for those who do the least. It will slow the inevitable
decline.


Amen!

Is that 'blow it out your ass' in some other language?

I have difficulty farting 2 syllable words.


If so, then Amen.

Amen!

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

????

Where is it?

About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

The One wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

Sheeeze watta dope.


If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

Jarheads...bwhahahahaha

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

**** off asshole, it's crystal clear you never served.

Joe

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

There are several here who fled, cut their careers short because of Clinton.
I think it may be difficult to provide actual confirmed documentation.


If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

That takes the fun out of it.



People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

The Marine Corp really pushes the hype doesn't it? It's definitely a cult.


If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

Pilots, both Navy and Marine adon't get their boots dirty. Unless they ****
upon their brown shoes.

You are a pussy, not matter what branch you served in. You are a double
pussy if you are a former jarhead.


(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

????

Where is it?

About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html


Some join to avoid prison. I know two guys that got the choice - jail or
join the beloved Corps. They joined and got straightened right out when they
saw double pussies such as you. Did you get that choice when they arrested
you in that San Francisco bath house? You are the type who lacks motivation.
The beloved Corps couldn't beat the pussy out of you even if you re-upped
twice.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Ignore Joe - he served aboard an ocean liner that happened to be painted
gray.

It didn't even have a gun.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:
Ignore Joe - he served aboard an ocean liner that happened to be painted
gray.


You are mistaken Gilly it was more like a floating repair shop / bar,
playboy mansion, frat house, traveling circus with a large fleet of
boats.

Did you have a shipmate who was a Playboy playmate?
http://cr3.com/adult/playboy/covers/1980_04.jpg

It didn't even have a gun.

Liar liar pants on fi
http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/1851

What is that on the 01 level just aft the forecastle?

Joe

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilly,

They fled the "DRAFT" The All Vol stopped all of that and also filled
the Ranks.

It also improved the mentality of the arm services.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Joe wrote:
The One wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

Sheeeze watta dope.

Hm. Marines guard 'national assets' and serve other roles in the fleet,
from what I understand. I believe they do that at places like Bangor as
well. When in that role, do they say "I'm with the Second MarDiv"?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

Jarheads...bwhahahahaha

Generally, I'd agree with you, but keep in mind that we're comparing
them to the Navy.

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

**** off asshole, it's crystal clear you never served.

Wrongo. In fact, very wrongo.

Now back to your foxhole, corporal.

LOL!

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:32:26 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

Actually Cappy..many enlist because it's the only way they can get a
regular income

Bull****. Unemployment here is at its lowest level in a generation. Jobs
are plentiful.

You sound like Kerry: elitist.

Max

Might be worth having a look at where those recruits come from and
their levels of education.

I have. Demographically they are not unrepresentative of the general
population. We do have more poor and uneducated than wealthy and educated.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, if you don't mind working in the ever-expanding fast food
industry...

Another elitist comment. I have tremendous respect for kids and adults who
choose to make themselves productive and work summers, evenings, and
weekends in McDonalds, etc. Why do you show disrespect for people who
choose to work in less-than-optimal jobs, rather than sit around
worthlessly? If a person works, he has my respect.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
With more than 100 US soldiers dead this month in Iraq, I don't think
Kerry's comment will have much influence on how people vote. The violence
there is out of control.

Kerry's comment probably had greater impact on his own political aspirations
than on the current election. I trust the Democrats are smart enough to
hope this idiot goes away prior to the next presidential election.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:


What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary, Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone
like
John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Looking at it from this great Socialist bastion to your north, I have to
agree with you. I don't think the Dems have a chance, no matter who they
nominate, the poor ******* will be like a race horse with two jockeys
facing opposite directions.

McCain, a centrist conservative, could attract a substantial portion of the
so-called Blue Dog Democrat vote in a general election, especially when
facing a leftist like Hillary or Kerry.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:42:46 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote in message
...

You guys crack me up!
Because of something that one person says, something that may or may
not have been a badly spun joke, you're prepared to forget everything
that GWB has done 'for' your country and vote his politics back into
power......

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

It's funny for Ozzy. He has absolutely nothing at stake in this election.

Max

Yeah, actually I have.
Our Govt is nicely playing the part of a Bush lapdog and in doing so
pandering to US whims while putting us in harms way.
His policies go and our Govt goes.

This election will have minimal effect upon that. Oh sure, a
Democrat-controlled Congress can cut funding for Iraq, but the Prez will
simply find another avenue to fund the war. And your Prime Minister will
continue to lick W's boots.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You're joking right? Aussie-land has a lot to win or lose by what we do or
don't do in a week.

Like . . . .?


Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, if you don't mind working in the ever-expanding fast food
industry...

Another elitist comment. I have tremendous respect for kids and adults who
choose to make themselves productive and work summers, evenings, and
weekends in McDonalds, etc. Why do you show disrespect for people who
choose to work in less-than-optimal jobs, rather than sit around
worthlessly? If a person works, he has my respect.

Bull****... attack the messenger instead of argue on the
merits... that's the rightwingnut tactic.

I guess working at McDs is better than nothing, but it's not exactly a
skilled job, which is what we need to be promoting.

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