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![]() On Nov 1, 1:15 am, OzOne wrote: On 1 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0800, "cruisin" scribbled thusly: On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, OzOne wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:56:37 -0800, (Thom Stewart) scribbled thusly: The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner.Well done Thom....There are sailors and old sailors... Well, maybe so, but on my ketch, the mizzen runners are running backstays,You have runners on the mizzen? Jesus..how tall is that stick? Not that tall, but there isn't much aft angle on the uppers or lowers, so it needs more aft support on a broad reach and especially if carrying the mizzen staysail. and the staysail forward would be called a spinnaker staysail,Spinnaker staysail? Never heard the term..... Not too common these days, but used to be before the days of Bloopers and Tallboys. Where do you fly tis sail? off the forestay like a wire luffed assym? Was set flying, tacked inside the headstay, halyard was about the height of the (pole) topping lift. Yes, wire luff, cut full. I carry one on my boat but rarely use it. I have pics of my Dad's boats flying them, but unfortunately not digitized. Looks like the one on Bart's pic is hanked onto the forestay tho, so I guess we'd just call that one a forestaysail. So please tell me what name you would apply to that skimpy mizzen staysail? Waiting on the edge of my chair, Mike Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.. |
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![]() On Nov 1, 8:00 am, (Thom Stewart) wrote: Max & (Mike) A Staysail is usally named and flown from a STAY (Even if it is a temporary set Stay) A Wire Luff isn't a Stay. A Stay is part of the STANDING RIGGING. A Luff Line is part of the RUNNING RIGGING, even if it is wire, it is part of the Sail and not the RIGGING. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT Roger that, Thom, but I'm too old a dog to learn new tricks! Guess I'll just have to continue being one of the legions of misnomerizers. Eschewing obfuscation, Mike |
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![]() cruisin wrote: On Nov 1, 1:15 am, OzOne wrote: On 1 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0800, "cruisin" scribbled thusly: On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, OzOne wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:56:37 -0800, (Thom Stewart) scribbled thusly: The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner.Well done Thom....There are sailors and old sailors... Well, maybe so, but on my ketch, the mizzen runners are running backstays,You have runners on the mizzen? Jesus..how tall is that stick? Not that tall, but there isn't much aft angle on the uppers or lowers, so it needs more aft support on a broad reach and especially if carrying the mizzen staysail. and the staysail forward would be called a spinnaker staysail,Spinnaker staysail? Never heard the term..... Not too common these days, but used to be before the days of Bloopers and Tallboys. Where do you fly tis sail? off the forestay like a wire luffed assym? Was set flying, tacked inside the headstay, halyard was about the height of the (pole) topping lift. Yes, wire luff, cut full. I carry one on my boat but rarely use it. I have pics of my Dad's boats flying them, but unfortunately not digitized. Looks like the one on Bart's pic is hanked onto the forestay tho, so I guess we'd just call that one a forestaysail. So please tell me what name you would apply to that skimpy mizzen staysail? Waiting on the edge of my chair, Mike What is this one called? http://www.theyachtmarket.com/userimages/24272.jpg Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.. |
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![]() "Walt" wrote in message ... Thom Stewart wrote: The name comes from the tack you're on when you fly it. The Main Boom has to be out of the way, as in a down wind Tack or RUNNING before the wind. It is one of the saving graces of a Yawl Mizen Masts (Besides being very pretty) Hmmm. It looks to me like the yawl in the picture is reaching, not running - tough to tell from a 2D picture, but the spinaker pole looks to be barely to windward of the bow. http://www.goodoldboat.com/classifieds/TonyPeot.jpg //Walt Agreed. Both the mainsheet and the mizzensheet appear to be relatively near the centerline, but as you imply it's difficult to tell from a photo. Max |
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![]() On Nov 1, 6:26 pm, "Joe" wrote: What is this one called?http://www.theyachtmarket.com/userimages/24272.jpg Joe That's easy, Joe, a backwards fisherman/gollywobbler! I really have no clue, or clew, as Jax would say, but it looks pretty cool. Can't be too easy to set or douse, tho... Mike |
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![]() On Nov 1, 7:40 am, "Maxprop" wrote: Oz thinks it's a mizzen staysail of yankee cut? A mizzerable yankstaysail? Mizzerable yankrunner, now that's a name that could stick, eh? What a funny thread this has turned into. On my boat I just tell my crew to set all the rags that'll fly, and let God take 'em down. Max- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
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![]() "cruisin" wrote in message ups.com... On Nov 1, 1:15 am, OzOne wrote: On 1 Nov 2006 00:33:09 -0800, "cruisin" Where do you fly tis sail? off the forestay like a wire luffed assym? Was set flying, tacked inside the headstay, halyard was about the height of the (pole) topping lift. Yes, wire luff, cut full. I carry one on my boat but rarely use it. I have one. It is labelled as a free flying staysail and is tacked down to an eye which is on a track on the foredeck. But the halyard is just where you said. I 'think' it sheets to the inner one of the two tracks I have on the side deck-the genoa goes to the outer one. I must try it out next year. Need to experiment to find the right position of the eye on its track as well. This was one of many sails that came with my boat but I have never used it yet. |
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![]() cruisin wrote: On Nov 1, 6:26 pm, "Joe" wrote: What is this one called?http://www.theyachtmarket.com/userimages/24272.jpg Joe That's easy, Joe, a backwards fisherman/gollywobbler! I really have no clue, or clew, as Jax would say, but it looks pretty cool. Can't be too easy to set or douse, tho... Mike Maybe Ol Thom will clue us in. Joe |
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![]() "Maxprop" wrote Perhaps Oz thinks it's a mizzen staysail of yankee cut? A mizzerable yankstaysail? Maybe in Oz, they'd call in a ******? |
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I see one of these sailing inthe harbor. I have no idea
what it is called. On Nov 1, 6:26 pm, "Joe" wrote: What is this one called? http://www.theyachtmarket.com/userimages/24272.jpg |
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