How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Mine is a big piece of lifeless plastic. I'm not proud of it either.



Everyone can see why. Shame would be more fitting.


Why don't you tell us why.

How can I take pride in something I bought?

Especially when there is so much I've conceived, designed and built myself.
Unlike you.

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

How can I take pride in something I bought?


By working very hard for it. If it came easily, then maybe you'd have a
point. Most people I know are proud of their hard work and what it has
brought them.


Especially when there is so much I've conceived, designed and built
myself.
Unlike you.

Puhlease. No one here is buying.



RB
35s5
NY

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
You just don't get it.

No, Jeff and I've never heard anyone EVER say their boat was "just a
lot of plastic." I'm sorry, but that's just horrible and no attempts to
rewrite will make it any better.

Such nonsense. What a jackass you are. Bragging about possessions,
imbuing with some magic life, such that they are something to be proud
of just by their existence.

So where do you rate your boat on the "pride scale"? Just a hair
below your kid? It sounds like it would be a tough decision for you.

You such a baby, booby. Grow up.




I can appreciate the work that went into
designing and building my boat.

It's just a lot of plastic. Your words.

Sorry, booby. Grownups place special value on family, on friends, on
community, on living. Not on possessions.

Grow up.



check, and that's nothing to brag about.


Another sad and terribly limiting point of view. Did you work for that
money? Did you work to find the right boat? Having a yacht is an
accomplishment.

No big deal - it was a decision.

I worked to have the money to own mine. Maybe someone
just gave you the money and told you which boat would be best for you.

This is nonsense. No grownup runs down the street yelling "Look at
me! I know how to buy a car! I can buy a boat!" That's what you've
been doing here.

Then I could see not being proud of owning your own yacht. Perhaps
you're one of the many folks who have no idea how some people struggle
every day just to keep a roof over their heads.

So now your saying I should brag about my boat because it shows that
I'm better than poor people??? You're really sick, Booby. Get help,
fast.




I had no idea you were spending your dad's money. I thought, like me,
you had a job. Actually, Jeff, I have TWO jobs to support my sailing.

Nope. I never got a penny from family. Every cent was earned the old
fashion way. Hard work and pure dumb luck.




Why?

Because a boat, a sailboat especially is so much more than a "lot of
plastic", Jeff. It's so much more.

Not until you use it. Just sitting there, its lifeless plastic.


its only purpose for me to brag about
it. If that's all it does, its just a piece of plastic.

Who said anything like that? My boat and the sailboats owned by my
friends give a lot of joy.

You're the only one who brags about owning the boat. Everyone I know
is proud of what they do with it.


That fact
that it taken us 10000 miles or so, and been our home for extended
periods, that's something to take pride in.

If long voyages are what's important to you, then you SHOULD take pride
in it.


But why would I brag
about the work other people did?

Well, for most people like myself (perhaps not you), we WORK for the
money. We work even harder to find the boat that suits us and our
family situation best. Since I actually have a work ethic, I believe a
person should be proud of their work and what it brings them. Clearly
you don't feel the same way and that's simply and purely sad.

But you're claiming that you're entitled to be proud of other people's
work, because you paid for it. SO now you're claiming you can buy
pride??? You;re sick, booby. Get help!

But that fact that we spec'd a few
extra handholds, shelves, and steps and some other details is nothing
to brag about.

Why not?

Because its pretty stupid to brag about small things. It's kind of
like bragging about what camera or tv you have. No one cares.



Builders are proud when their boats are used, not when they're sold
just so that someone can brag about it.

I don't know anyone who doesn't use their boats, Jeff. Not only do we
love and use ours every week, but we also invite every friend and
family member aboard. There's nothing more rewarding than watching
someone fall in love with sailing.

But you've been claiming you should brag about the mere ownership of
it, while I've been saying that until its used, its just plastic. Now
you're claiming something very different.


Buying a Racer/Cruiser to
neither race nor cruise, but just to reach back and forth a few times
would not do them proud.


Nonsense. We use our boat for family sailing and local cruising.

Cruising? Tell us about your great cruises.

Our
son LOVES it. Only a total creep would question the application of OUR
boat. No one here sails as often as we do. I sailed this morning. Did
you? I'll sail tomorrow & Sunday. Will you?

So now you're agreeing with me, its how you use the boat that's important.

Jeff, we all know your sort. If a fellow isn't sailing the way you
sail, then it must be wrong. I never make fun of how a
person sails, so long as they get out there and do it.

snip holier than thou bull**** which no one is buying

Show a single post I've made in the years Ive posted here where I've
made fun of anyone's sailing or boat except yours. Its hard to find a
post of your where you're not either bragging about how your
possessions are better than anyone's or where you're not denigrating
someone or their boat.


you don't get a "rise" out of anyone. They're all laughing at you.

Really? Then that's even better, since it's never "me" they're laughing
at, Jeff. You don't get THAT either.

Now you're just being delusional.

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

Such nonsense. What a jackass you are. Bragging about possessions,
imbuing with some magic life, such that they are something to be proud
of just by their existence.


Poor Jeff. And I do mean that. For centuries, poets and artists of all
kinds have clearly seen the "magic life" in a sailing vessel. What a
loss for you that you've missed out on this common aspect of sailing.


So where do you rate your boat on the "pride scale"? Just a hair
below your kid? It sounds like it would be a tough decision for you.


There are many kinds of pride, Jeff. You seem like a very simple
fellow.


You such a baby, booby. Grow up.

If it means having your dull, lifeless and pragmatically heart stopping
lack of vision and heart, I'll stay a baby, thank you.


Sorry, booby. Grownups place special value on family, on friends,
on
community, on living. Not on possessions.

Sophisticated grownups place value on a lot of things. You have no
point at all.


No big deal - it was a decision.


Well, like I said: Everyone I know sails for emotional reasons. They
love their boats and are proud of them, just as they love sailing.


This is nonsense. No grownup runs down the street yelling "Look at
me! I know how to buy a car! I can buy a boat!" That's what you've
been doing here.

I'm not running down the street. There are very few people here and I
troll, quite well I might add.


So now your saying I should brag about my boat because it shows that

I'm better than poor people???

There's a leap of logic for ya! No, Jeff. You should be proud of the
life you've built. And that includes your yacht.

You're really sick, Booby. Get help,
fast.


No thanks. I don't know a single person who sails that has your cold
and lifeless vision of boats and pride.


Nope. I never got a penny from family. Every cent was earned the
old
fashion way. Hard work and pure dumb luck.

I have no doubt that your luck has been dumb. But you should be proud
that you earned enough to do well by your family and treat them to life
on the water, at least in part.


Not until you use it. Just sitting there, its lifeless plastic.

I use mine more than you. Thomas was aboard 2-3 times per week and also
sailed on about 5 other boats. Next season we'll take longer trips,
since Suzanne is dropping to a 2 day schedule. Once again you have no
point.


You're the only one who brags about owning the boat. Everyone I
know
is proud of what they do with it.

You're busted again, Jeff. I've posted videos and pics...hundreds in
fact...showing my various boats sailing. I'm proud of how well I can
now handle my boat. Sailing distances is not for everyone and is not
the measure of a sailor. I know people who do nothing but sail on
lakes. They are also proud of their skills....and their boats. Jeff,
you've utterly missed the boat.



But you're claiming that you're entitled to be proud of other
people's
work, because you paid for it. SO now you're claiming you can buy
pride???


Wow, kinda challenged when it comes to reading and comprehension, aint
ya?! Pride of ownership is not about someone elses work, Jeff. You
don't get it. But every other sailor I know does. Why not Google
"Sailing and pride of ownership" and see what comes up?


Because its pretty stupid to brag about small things. It's kind of
like bragging about what camera or tv you have. No one cares.


Not true at all. For some people a camera is a major purchase and
photography a passion. You are just judging here, Jeff...and badly at
that. "Small things" is a very relative term.


But you've been claiming you should brag about the mere ownership of

it, while I've been saying that until its used, its just plastic. Now
you're claiming something very different.


You must be insane. What kind of moron would simplify my statement as
though the boat were tucked away in a garage? Oh. Yeah. YOU! But you
know what, Jeff...if I NEVER sailed my boat and just loved having it
that would be fine too. It's not for you to judge how people live or
enjoy their loves and lives.


Cruising? Tell us about your great cruises.

On which boat? We had a lot of great weekend cruises on the C&C 32.
We'll have many more next season. Once again you lose because you think
everyone should sail as you do. I guess if I owned a dull floating
radiator I'd need to go places for fun too. But your way of sailing
doesn't have to make ME happy, or does it?


So now you're agreeing with me, its how you use the boat that's
important.


Get help, Jeff. And I do mean that. If someone wants to sit on their
boat on the hook all the time and IT MAKES THEM HAPPY, then that's good
use of a boat. Some folks put exotic cars under glass. It's their cars
and it makes them happy. Not only did you miss the point of sailing,
but you also missed the point of LIFE!


Show a single post I've made in the years Ive posted here where I've

made fun of anyone's sailing or boat except yours. Its hard to find a
post of your where you're not either bragging about how your
possessions are better than anyone's or where you're not denigrating
someone or their boat.

You have an awful and dull boat, Jeff. Most folks here know it. You're
also too thick to get alt.asa at all it would appear. What do you
imagine I really think of the boats in this group? Have you ever
wondered what Capt Neal was really like? Do you think everything
written here must have some basis in reality or are you without even a
clam's imagination?


Now you're just being delusional.

You'll never know, Jeff.
Time for sleep. G'night.



RB
35s5
NY

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

"Jeff" wrote in ...


Nonsense. We use our boat for family sailing and local
cruising.

Cruising? Tell us about your great cruises.









Damn those crickets are LOUD !

Scotty

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

How can I take pride in something I bought?


By working very hard for it. If it came easily, then maybe you'd have a
point. Most people I know are proud of their hard work and what it has
brought them.


Only a fool strives to work harder. Anyone with sense desires to work
smarter. It's called improving one's productivity.



Especially when there is so much I've conceived, designed and built
myself.
Unlike you.

Puhlease. No one here is buying.

It's not for sale.

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Such nonsense. What a jackass you are. Bragging about possessions,
imbuing with some magic life, such that they are something to be proud
of just by their existence.


Poor Jeff. And I do mean that. For centuries, poets and artists of all
kinds have clearly seen the "magic life" in a sailing vessel. What a
loss for you that you've missed out on this common aspect of sailing.



Magic as in Santa Claus, God and the tooth fairy?

For centuries men have abandoned the miserable life of a sailor. Why do you
think that for centuries there were press gangs to capture people to work on
sailing ships.

Learn some history and the fantasy will fade.



So where do you rate your boat on the "pride scale"? Just a hair
below your kid? It sounds like it would be a tough decision for you.


There are many kinds of pride, Jeff. You seem like a very simple
fellow.

Hubris is one of them.




You such a baby, booby. Grow up.

If it means having your dull, lifeless and pragmatically heart stopping
lack of vision and heart, I'll stay a baby, thank you.



Obviously.



Sorry, booby. Grownups place special value on family, on friends,
on
community, on living. Not on possessions.

Sophisticated grownups place value on a lot of things. You have no
point at all.


Grownups learn to prioritize value. A boat is just a big piece of lifeless
plastic.



No big deal - it was a decision.


Well, like I said: Everyone I know sails for emotional reasons. They
love their boats and are proud of them, just as they love sailing.


I bet they drive with their emotions too.



This is nonsense. No grownup runs down the street yelling "Look at
me! I know how to buy a car! I can buy a boat!" That's what you've
been doing here.

I'm not running down the street. There are very few people here and I
troll, quite well I might add.

Read all the public review boards for Nikon, Kia, Subaru and Beneteau. You
are the first and with the biggest review. Why run down the street and
advertise to those only in earshot when the internet announces to the world?




So now your saying I should brag about my boat because it shows that

I'm better than poor people???

There's a leap of logic for ya! No, Jeff. You should be proud of the
life you've built. And that includes your yacht.

Definition of hubris - good read.



You're really sick, Booby. Get help,
fast.


No thanks. I don't know a single person who sails that has your cold
and lifeless vision of boats and pride.

You are forgetting me! Don't forget me!!!




Nope. I never got a penny from family. Every cent was earned the
old
fashion way. Hard work and pure dumb luck.

I have no doubt that your luck has been dumb. But you should be proud
that you earned enough to do well by your family and treat them to life
on the water, at least in part.

It's not the fact he earned it, it's how he earned it. Jeff works smarter,
not harder.





Not until you use it. Just sitting there, its lifeless plastic.

I use mine more than you. Thomas was aboard 2-3 times per week and also
sailed on about 5 other boats. Next season we'll take longer trips,
since Suzanne is dropping to a 2 day schedule. Once again you have no
point.

Rather than frequency, speak of overall trip duration.

I know swimmers that do more miles at the pool per outing.




You're the only one who brags about owning the boat. Everyone I
know
is proud of what they do with it.

You're busted again, Jeff. I've posted videos and pics...hundreds in
fact...showing my various boats sailing. I'm proud of how well I can
now handle my boat. Sailing distances is not for everyone and is not
the measure of a sailor. I know people who do nothing but sail on
lakes. They are also proud of their skills....and their boats. Jeff,
you've utterly missed the boat.


The point - false pride?




But you're claiming that you're entitled to be proud of other
people's
work, because you paid for it. SO now you're claiming you can buy
pride???


Wow, kinda challenged when it comes to reading and comprehension, aint
ya?! Pride of ownership is not about someone elses work, Jeff. You
don't get it. But every other sailor I know does. Why not Google
"Sailing and pride of ownership" and see what comes up?

"Pride of Ownership" is a slogan used by salesman. It's used to create
sales.

If ownership is the end and not the means, let's take pride in owning
slaves!




Because its pretty stupid to brag about small things. It's kind of
like bragging about what camera or tv you have. No one cares.


Not true at all. For some people a camera is a major purchase and
photography a passion. You are just judging here, Jeff...and badly at
that. "Small things" is a very relative term.

Still haven't gotten to photography class eh?




But you've been claiming you should brag about the mere ownership of

it, while I've been saying that until its used, its just plastic. Now
you're claiming something very different.


You must be insane. What kind of moron would simplify my statement as
though the boat were tucked away in a garage? Oh. Yeah. YOU! But you
know what, Jeff...if I NEVER sailed my boat and just loved having it
that would be fine too. It's not for you to judge how people live or
enjoy their loves and lives.

It is for Jeff and everyone to judge how people live their lives. Not to do
so is suspending morality.





Cruising? Tell us about your great cruises.

On which boat? We had a lot of great weekend cruises on the C&C 32.
We'll have many more next season. Once again you lose because you think
everyone should sail as you do. I guess if I owned a dull floating
radiator I'd need to go places for fun too. But your way of sailing
doesn't have to make ME happy, or does it?


Look at you judging others and their boats!




So now you're agreeing with me, its how you use the boat that's
important.


Get help, Jeff. And I do mean that. If someone wants to sit on their
boat on the hook all the time and IT MAKES THEM HAPPY, then that's good
use of a boat. Some folks put exotic cars under glass. It's their cars
and it makes them happy. Not only did you miss the point of sailing,
but you also missed the point of LIFE!

And that is ownership?



Show a single post I've made in the years Ive posted here where I've

made fun of anyone's sailing or boat except yours. Its hard to find a
post of your where you're not either bragging about how your
possessions are better than anyone's or where you're not denigrating
someone or their boat.

You have an awful and dull boat, Jeff. Most folks here know it. You're
also too thick to get alt.asa at all it would appear. What do you
imagine I really think of the boats in this group? Have you ever
wondered what Capt Neal was really like? Do you think everything
written here must have some basis in reality or are you without even a
clam's imagination?

The Famous BS closing argument. "It's all fantasy!" "I don't mean what I
say!"

Bwahahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!





Now you're just being delusional.

You'll never know, Jeff.
Time for sleep. G'night.



RB
35s5
NY

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

Magic as in Santa Claus, God and the tooth fairy?



Nope. Santa, God and the Tooth Fairy are all fantasy. But love and
pride in one's boat is quite real.
I didn't bother with the rest of your effort because it long and dull.
Jeff is much better at this than you are. If you're going to ride on
Jeff's coat-tails at least show some wit.


RB
35s5
NY

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Magic as in Santa Claus, God and the tooth fairy?



Nope. Santa, God and the Tooth Fairy are all fantasy. But love and
pride in one's boat is quite real.
I didn't bother with the rest of your effort because it long and dull.

Your senses were dulled at the first smack down. After that it was one long
blur.

It wasn't written for you Bubbles. It was written for those who take the
time to read and think. They'll weigh what is said on both sides and make
their own judgements.


Jeff is much better at this than you are. If you're going to ride on
Jeff's coat-tails at least show some wit.

Jeff's problem is that he keeps biting at your trolls. Post windspeed on LIS
and Jeff is there. You can't troll me and you can't refute me.

Jeff's post is just another opportunity to demonstrate to others your true
nature and your twisted methods of "debate".

I have no boat and I'm gay!

Try and refute that!

Bwahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!




RB
35s5
NY

How Jeff feels about his Yacht....a repost
 

They'll weigh what is said on both sides and make
their own judgements.



"They???" Who the heck is that?
As Jeff said....GET HELP.

You need it.



RB
35s5
NY