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Scout October 25th 06 10:07 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about galvanic isolation got me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has mentioned, remove the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and use those lines to supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout

Maxprop October 25th 06 11:32 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..


How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant
system as a heat source?


Ours is such a water heater, but when we bought the boat there was a small
but insideous coolant leak which could cause engine overheating if pushed a
bit. The leak was discovered to be at the engine-to-water heater hookup
fitting, so we disconnected the water heater loop entirely. Never miss it,
and your point about toxic material flowing through one's water heater is
valid, even though we never gave it a thought. Good post.

Max





Jeff October 25th 06 11:44 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
I think Seaward made two versions, SS and Aluminum.

I have a galvanic isolator, and use the non-toxic anti-freeze.

Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's
coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking
water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot,
and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system,
especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any
reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly
results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic
anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter
boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about galvanic isolation got
me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has mentioned, remove
the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and use those lines to
supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout


Gilligan October 25th 06 02:44 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
Ole Thom's been drinking anti-freeze for years. Hasn't affected him one bit.
"Scout" wrote in message . ..
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about galvanic isolation got me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has mentioned, remove the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and use those lines to supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout



Scout October 25th 06 03:13 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
I'm not as thunk as some people drink I am.

Gilligan wrote:
Ole Thom's been drinking anti-freeze for years. Hasn't affected him one bit.
"Scout" wrote in message . ..
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about galvanic isolation got me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has mentioned, remove the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and use those lines to supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout


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Scout October 25th 06 03:40 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
Uninstalling and analyzing this heater is a good thing. Further
inspection may just exonerate the design. If you look closely at the
bottom tubes in this picture,
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/291...97509592UoBucA
you'll notice that they enter the tank through two very loose sleeves.
Check out the ample clearance between the coil ends and the sleeves
they pass through. I need to find a way to determine if what appears to
be an exageration of sloppy pipe fitting is in fact a clever design
intended to drain any chemicals away from contact with fresh water
should the tubing leak for any reason. It is possible that the design
is a tube inside a tube, with the outter tube being an non-pressure
path out of the unit. If that's the case, I can see why the hot water
heat is so slow to come up to temperature, but the added safety feature
would be worth the wait.
As an experiment, I'm thinking of suspending the tank with the tank
face parallel to the floor, so that any drop of water in the tank will
drip from the boiler drain. Then, I would feed a stream of water into
the sleeve and see if it eventually begins to flow from the other side.
If it does, and if it never flows from the boiler drain, then I can
conclude that there exists an isolating compartment, which is vented to
atmosphere, between the anti-freeze filled tubing the fresh water tank.

If I find that to be true, I'll connect to the engine again without
losing sleep.
Scout



Jeff wrote:
I think Seaward made two versions, SS and Aluminum.

I have a galvanic isolator, and use the non-toxic anti-freeze.

Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's
coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking
water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot,
and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system,
especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any
reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly
results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic
anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter
boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about galvanic isolation got
me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has mentioned, remove
the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and use those lines to
supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout



Scotty October 25th 06 05:28 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
Can you ask Seaward?


"Scout" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
Uninstalling and analyzing this heater is a good thing.

Further
inspection may just exonerate the design. If you look

closely at the
bottom tubes in this picture,
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/291...97509592UoBucA
you'll notice that they enter the tank through two very

loose sleeves.
Check out the ample clearance between the coil ends and

the sleeves
they pass through. I need to find a way to determine if

what appears to
be an exageration of sloppy pipe fitting is in fact a

clever design
intended to drain any chemicals away from contact with

fresh water
should the tubing leak for any reason. It is possible that

the design
is a tube inside a tube, with the outter tube being an

non-pressure
path out of the unit. If that's the case, I can see why

the hot water
heat is so slow to come up to temperature, but the added

safety feature
would be worth the wait.
As an experiment, I'm thinking of suspending the tank with

the tank
face parallel to the floor, so that any drop of water in

the tank will
drip from the boiler drain. Then, I would feed a stream of

water into
the sleeve and see if it eventually begins to flow from

the other side.
If it does, and if it never flows from the boiler drain,

then I can
conclude that there exists an isolating compartment, which

is vented to
atmosphere, between the anti-freeze filled tubing the

fresh water tank.

If I find that to be true, I'll connect to the engine

again without
losing sleep.
Scout



Jeff wrote:
I think Seaward made two versions, SS and Aluminum.

I have a galvanic isolator, and use the non-toxic

anti-freeze.

Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with

the engine's
coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material

from your drinking
water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach

15 psi when hot,
and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water

system,
especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand

pump for any
reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger

could have deadly
results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted

to use toxic
anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot

water (summer-winter
boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils

due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about

galvanic isolation got
me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has

mentioned, remove
the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and

use those lines to
supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout





Scotty October 25th 06 05:30 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the
engine's coolant system as a heat source?

I do, but I don't drink the hot water. Would washing dishes
and showering with it be a problem? If there were a leak,
wouldn't you soon discover it when your engine water gets
low?

SBV

















It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from
your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop
may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the
force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry
or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole
or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly
results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use
toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot
water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of
those coils due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about galvanic
isolation got me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has
mentioned, remove the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water
supply, and use those lines to supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout



Maxprop October 25th 06 06:07 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Gilligan" wrote in message
...

Ole Thom's been drinking anti-freeze for years. Hasn't affected him one
bit.


Once you've built up a tolerance to the stuff, it's fine. I've moved on to
Canadian whisky--now that stuff is seriously toxic.

Max



Bart October 25th 06 08:07 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
I've sailed on many boat with these systems and it is hard to complain
about hot water. Perhaps the second loop could be used to cycle water
through a solar hot water coil--the penalty would only be the
electricity to
circulate it.

Without an engine driven hot water system, you are stuck with AC coils
at the dock, or a huge electric penalty when underway.

The WhisperGen stirling engine offers hot water as a by product. I
don't
think that uses coolant.

As someone else mentioned. It would be wise not to drink hot water
using such a system. Heat up any drinking water separately. I don't
think diluted coolant will kill you if you only shower in it or wash
dishes
with it.

To avoid corrosion an isolation transformer is the best option. Be
sure not to
tie the grounds on both sides together. Incoming circuit ground goes
to
the transformer case, the other goes to your vessel ground, such that
no
DC current can pass from shore power to the vessel. With such a system
you can crank up all AC appliances and forget about corrosion.

Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!



Scout October 25th 06 09:34 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
What fun is that?
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Can you ask Seaward?


"Scout" wrote in message
oups.com..
.
Uninstalling and analyzing this heater is a good thing.

Further
inspection may just exonerate the design. If you look

closely at the
bottom tubes in this picture,
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/291...97509592UoBucA
you'll notice that they enter the tank through two very

loose sleeves.
Check out the ample clearance between the coil ends and

the sleeves
they pass through. I need to find a way to determine if

what appears to
be an exageration of sloppy pipe fitting is in fact a

clever design
intended to drain any chemicals away from contact with

fresh water
should the tubing leak for any reason. It is possible that

the design
is a tube inside a tube, with the outter tube being an

non-pressure
path out of the unit. If that's the case, I can see why

the hot water
heat is so slow to come up to temperature, but the added

safety feature
would be worth the wait.
As an experiment, I'm thinking of suspending the tank with

the tank
face parallel to the floor, so that any drop of water in

the tank will
drip from the boiler drain. Then, I would feed a stream of

water into
the sleeve and see if it eventually begins to flow from

the other side.
If it does, and if it never flows from the boiler drain,

then I can
conclude that there exists an isolating compartment, which

is vented to
atmosphere, between the anti-freeze filled tubing the

fresh water tank.

If I find that to be true, I'll connect to the engine

again without
losing sleep.
Scout



Jeff wrote:
I think Seaward made two versions, SS and Aluminum.

I have a galvanic isolator, and use the non-toxic

anti-freeze.

Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with

the engine's
coolant system as a heat source?

It is a very thin line separating that toxic material

from your drinking
water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach

15 psi when hot,
and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water

system,
especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand

pump for any
reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger

could have deadly
results.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted

to use toxic
anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot

water (summer-winter
boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils

due to leakage!

Just a thought, but Bart's recent comment about

galvanic isolation got
me thinking.

Maybe I'll get that RedDot heater that Ole Thom has

mentioned, remove
the anti-freeze loop from my fresh water supply, and

use those lines to
supply aux heat in the cabin.

Scout








DSK October 25th 06 09:35 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant system as a heat source?


Prob'ly everyone with a water heater. It's extremely common.


It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.


True, unless you use non-toxic anti-freeze.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!


That's a good idea. It's also a good idea to make it part of
your regular maintenance checks, insure no crossover between
the systems.

In most cases, the water tank is at a different level tha
the engine coolant receiver, so it should be fairly easy to
make a test for any leak between the two. For another, many
boats have their pressure water (potable water) system 'on'
most of the time, so any leak would pump drinking water into
the engine coolant loop while the engine was idle.

I get an effective check on ours every time I test the
engine coolant level (ie every time I start the engine).



Bart wrote:

I've sailed on many boat with these systems and it is hard to complain
about hot water.


Dang skippy!



To avoid corrosion an isolation transformer is the best option. Be
sure not to
tie the grounds on both sides together. Incoming circuit ground goes
to
the transformer case, the other goes to your vessel ground, such that
no
DC current can pass from shore power to the vessel. With such a system
you can crank up all AC appliances and forget about corrosion.


An excellent idea for more reasons than just this one.
Isolating the grounds can be a life saver. Unfortunately
these are rather expensive little bits of gear... our boat
does not currently have one, but it's on the list.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scout October 25th 06 09:36 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the
engine's coolant system as a heat source?

I do, but I don't drink the hot water. Would washing dishes
and showering with it be a problem? If there were a leak,
wouldn't you soon discover it when your engine water gets
low?


Scotty,
It's like having a non-smoking section in a one room house.
If something were to leak into the hot water, it's in your fresh water
system.




Scout October 25th 06 10:52 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's
coolant system as a heat source?


Prob'ly everyone with a water heater. It's extremely common.


It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking
water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot,
and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially
if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole
or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.


True, unless you use non-toxic anti-freeze.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic
anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter
boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!


That's a good idea. It's also a good idea to make it part of your regular
maintenance checks, insure no crossover between the systems.


It's those precious moments between the birth of a leak and the discovery of
it that worry me!



DSK October 25th 06 10:59 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
Scout wrote:
It's those precious moments between the birth of a leak and the discovery of
it that worry me!


Good point.

But don't stay up at night worrying about it, I mean there's
all kinds of chemicals & junk in your drinking water
already. Anti-freeze is just one more... only causes a
slight amount of dain bramage

DSK


Capt. JG October 25th 06 11:17 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
Personal experience?? :-) Sorry, couldn't help it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scout wrote:
It's those precious moments between the birth of a leak and the discovery
of it that worry me!


Good point.

But don't stay up at night worrying about it, I mean there's all kinds of
chemicals & junk in your drinking water already. Anti-freeze is just one
more... only causes a slight amount of dain bramage

DSK




Scotty October 25th 06 11:39 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..

That's a good idea. It's also a good idea to make it

part of your regular
maintenance checks, insure no crossover between the

systems.

It's those precious moments between the birth of a leak

and the discovery of
it that worry me!



Do you lie awake at night worrying about it?

Scotty



Scotty October 25th 06 11:41 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
How many here have a hot water heater that works with

the
engine's coolant system as a heat source?

I do, but I don't drink the hot water. Would washing

dishes
and showering with it be a problem? If there were a

leak,
wouldn't you soon discover it when your engine water

gets
low?


Scotty,
It's like having a non-smoking section in a one room

house.
If something were to leak into the hot water, it's in your

fresh water
system.



yes, I realize that BUT would it be harmful if you didn't
drink it. I don't drink the water from my water tank. I
bring water from home, in jugs.

SBV





Joe October 25th 06 11:46 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

DSK wrote:
Scout wrote:
How many here have a hot water heater that works with the engine's coolant system as a heat source?


Prob'ly everyone with a water heater. It's extremely common.


It is a very thin line separating that toxic material from your drinking water supply. The closed engine coolant loop may reach 15 psi when hot, and could easily outmatch the force in the fresh water system, especially if you run dry or turn off your on-demand pump for any reason. A pin hole or a crack in the hw heat exchanger could have deadly results.


True, unless you use non-toxic anti-freeze.

In my work as a boiler tech, we were never permitted to use toxic anti-freeze in boilers that produced domestic hot water (summer-winter boiler packages). I've replaced tens of those coils due to leakage!


That's a good idea. It's also a good idea to make it part of
your regular maintenance checks, insure no crossover between
the systems.

In most cases, the water tank is at a different level tha
the engine coolant receiver, so it should be fairly easy to
make a test for any leak between the two. For another, many
boats have their pressure water (potable water) system 'on'
most of the time, so any leak would pump drinking water into
the engine coolant loop while the engine was idle.

I get an effective check on ours every time I test the
engine coolant level (ie every time I start the engine).



Bart wrote:

I've sailed on many boat with these systems and it is hard to complain
about hot water.


Dang skippy!



To avoid corrosion an isolation transformer is the best option. Be
sure not to
tie the grounds on both sides together. Incoming circuit ground goes
to
the transformer case, the other goes to your vessel ground, such that
no
DC current can pass from shore power to the vessel. With such a system
you can crank up all AC appliances and forget about corrosion.


How are you getting DC from the dock anyway?
Charlies walmart charger?


An excellent idea for more reasons than just this one.
Isolating the grounds can be a life saver. Unfortunately
these are rather expensive little bits of gear... our boat
does not currently have one, but it's on the list.


Check out the one you use ggod, I've seen Galvanic isolators cause more
stray current then they prevent.

Joe



Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Scout October 25th 06 11:59 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
How many here have a hot water heater that works with

the
engine's coolant system as a heat source?

I do, but I don't drink the hot water. Would washing

dishes
and showering with it be a problem? If there were a

leak,
wouldn't you soon discover it when your engine water

gets
low?


Scotty,
It's like having a non-smoking section in a one room

house.
If something were to leak into the hot water, it's in your

fresh water
system.



yes, I realize that BUT would it be harmful if you didn't
drink it. I don't drink the water from my water tank. I
bring water from home, in jugs.

SBV


I hear our water is radon contaminated.
The Reading Prong, doncha know.
Scout



Gilligan October 26th 06 12:40 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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How many here have a hot water heater that works with

the
engine's coolant system as a heat source?

I do, but I don't drink the hot water. Would washing

dishes
and showering with it be a problem? If there were a

leak,
wouldn't you soon discover it when your engine water

gets
low?


Scotty,
It's like having a non-smoking section in a one room

house.
If something were to leak into the hot water, it's in your

fresh water
system.



yes, I realize that BUT would it be harmful if you didn't
drink it. I don't drink the water from my water tank. I
bring water from home, in jugs.

SBV



I don't trust those built in water tanks either. I bring those 5 gallon
igloo jugs.



Gilligan October 26th 06 12:41 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
What about propane flash heaters?

Instant hot water from the cold water line.



Gilligan October 26th 06 12:44 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
http://www.plumbingworld.com/waterheaterindex.html

Bart October 26th 06 01:03 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

DSK wrote:
To avoid corrosion an isolation transformer is the best option. Be
sure not to
tie the grounds on both sides together. Incoming circuit ground goes
to
the transformer case, the other goes to your vessel ground, such that
no
DC current can pass from shore power to the vessel. With such a system
you can crank up all AC appliances and forget about corrosion.


An excellent idea for more reasons than just this one.
Isolating the grounds can be a life saver. Unfortunately
these are rather expensive little bits of gear... our boat
does not currently have one, but it's on the list.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Prices have dropped. I got one slightly banged up for $250
and a dual voltage one for around $500 that I intend to set up
for both US and European power.


Bart October 26th 06 01:06 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
The USCG frowns on them. The danger is
propane leaks. I've read they just warm the
water and it never gets hot.

I think the concept is reasonable. However it
would not be my choice.

Gilligan wrote:
What about propane flash heaters?

Instant hot water from the cold water line.



Scotty October 26th 06 03:06 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Scout" wrote in message
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yes, I realize that BUT would it be harmful if you

didn't
drink it. I don't drink the water from my water tank. I
bring water from home, in jugs.

SBV


I hear our water is radon contaminated.
The Reading Prong, doncha know.



We have good, clean water down here.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Scotty October 26th 06 03:11 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

--
"Krusty Morgan" stupidly wrote ..



You should show more respect towards Lisa, even if she

doesn't really warrant
it. You are married to her, after all.

BB


are you ever going to say something that makes sense?





Scout October 26th 06 07:45 AM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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yes, I realize that BUT would it be harmful if you

didn't
drink it. I don't drink the water from my water tank. I
bring water from home, in jugs.

SBV


I hear our water is radon contaminated.
The Reading Prong, doncha know.



We have good, clean water down here.


That's the spirit!
Scout



Scotty October 26th 06 04:28 PM

Bart, anti-freeze and drinking water - smart to disassociate?
 

"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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yes, I realize that BUT would it be harmful if you

didn't
drink it. I don't drink the water from my water

tank. I
bring water from home, in jugs.

SBV

I hear our water is radon contaminated.
The Reading Prong, doncha know.



We have good, clean water down here.


That's the spirit!



yeah, that too.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_




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