"Peter" wrote in message
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Quick scan of the posts here and situation normal -
90% crap.

Ah well, back to building until Jan, then back to sea.

what'cha building Peter?

16 x 13 x 4.2 metre barn/workshop. Framing is almost
finished, roofing
starts this coming w/end if the weather holds. So far
except for the
concrete slabs (36 cubic metres of concrete), I've done
every bit of it
myself including lifting up the wall panels - all
hardwood. Got some
friends lined up to help put the roof trusses on, then
we'll have a big
Beer-B-Q.

Hi Pete, ya big wuss. When I built my barn, 50' X 30' X 16',
I did everything myself, including the trusses and the roof.
Course, I was a lot younger back then.

I'm going sailing this week. it's gonna be cold, in the 40s.
Brrrr!

Scotty

Scotty wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
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Quick scan of the posts here and situation normal -
90% crap.

Ah well, back to building until Jan, then back to sea.

what'cha building Peter?

16 x 13 x 4.2 metre barn/workshop. Framing is almost
finished, roofing
starts this coming w/end if the weather holds. So far
except for the
concrete slabs (36 cubic metres of concrete), I've done
every bit of it
myself including lifting up the wall panels - all
hardwood. Got some
friends lined up to help put the roof trusses on, then
we'll have a big
Beer-B-Q.

Hi Pete, ya big wuss. When I built my barn, 50' X 30' X 16',

Lessee, that's 15m x 10m x 4.8m. Or about 3/4 the size of mine......

I did everything myself, including the trusses and the roof.
Course, I was a lot younger back then.

Probably had 2 fully functional arms, too. When I was a lot younger I
built a 5400 sq ft 3 storey house - that cured me of building
multi-storey houses. My current place is ground level.

Actually putting the roofing on is pretty easy but it's not worth the
effort building the trusses as that means getting an engineer to
certify them - local Govt inspectors are a picky bunch these days.
Easier to ring up the local truss plant and have them delivered, with
certification. More expensive, but a lot less hassle. I can't build a
rafter roof without a lot of scaffolding etc so not worth the hassle
either even though I have enough 6 x 2 hardwood to do it (sawed up all
the trees I felled on the site). Was going to weld up lightweight steel
trusses but the price of steel combined with the need for engineering
design certs made it marginal. Lot stronger, but so what - I'll have a
high rolling gantry crane setup anyway.

I'm going sailing this week. it's gonna be cold, in the 40s.
Brrrr!

Wuss :-) I've just got back from working where the water temp was 1.5C
and the air temp about the same.

Have fun. I'm gonna splash the daysailer as soon as I've got the roof
on the barn. Cladding the walls etc can wait a bit, I can still move a
lot of my machinery in regardless. Not a real big worry about people
walking off with a 1 tonne radial arm drill, for example.

PDW

"Peter" wrote in message
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Hi Pete, ya big wuss. When I built my barn, 50' X 30' X
16',

Lessee, that's 15m x 10m x 4.8m. Or about 3/4 the size of
mine......
I did everything myself, including the trusses and the
roof.
Course, I was a lot younger back then.

Probably had 2 fully functional arms, too. When I was a
lot younger I
built a 5400 sq ft 3 storey house - that cured me of
building
multi-storey houses. My current place is ground level.

Yup, OK, you win.




Actually putting the roofing on is pretty easy but it's
not worth the
effort building the trusses as that means getting an
engineer to
certify them - local Govt inspectors are a picky bunch
these days.
Easier to ring up the local truss plant and have them
delivered, with
certification. More expensive, but a lot less hassle. I
can't build a
rafter roof without a lot of scaffolding etc so not worth
the hassle
either even though I have enough 6 x 2 hardwood to do it
(sawed up all
the trees I felled on the site). Was going to weld up
lightweight steel
trusses but the price of steel combined with the need for
engineering
design certs made it marginal. Lot stronger, but so what -
I'll have a
high rolling gantry crane setup anyway.

I ''bypassed'' the inspecors here. I remember making the
wood scaffolding, it was almost as much work as the barn
itself. Made for a nice bon-fire afterwards, though.



I'm going sailing this week. it's gonna be cold, in the
40s.
Brrrr!

Wuss :-) I've just got back from working where the water
temp was 1.5C
and the air temp about the same.


1.5C , that's like what, 55 * f.? Phhtttt!

Double wuss, I didn't go...something came up.



Scotty

Scotty wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
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I ''bypassed'' the inspecors here. I remember making the
wood scaffolding, it was almost as much work as the barn
itself. Made for a nice bon-fire afterwards, though.

Sigh. I *wish* I'd bypassed the inspectors (I did for the house). It
would have taken a year off the job. Often easier to seek forgiveness
than permission. As it was I got tired of it all, had planning
permission but the building guys were still sitting on final approval.
I dug out all the footings, boxed it all up, did the steel fixing then
rang up & asked for it to be inspected as I had the concrete trucks
booked. They approved it and issued my plans....

Next time I want to build something I'm just going to do it. As long as
the *******s don't have sufficient time to run Google Earth scans or
get clever s/ware to do it for them, who's to know.

I'm going sailing this week. it's gonna be cold, in the
40s.
Brrrr!

Wuss :-) I've just got back from working where the water
temp was 1.5C
and the air temp about the same.


1.5C , that's like what, 55 * f.? Phhtttt!

Ummm, not quite.....

PDW