Lady Pilot wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Telling... from on guy (LP)

Gaynz, you are so obsessed with me and Mooron. Sorry to disappoint you, but
I'm not a guy and I find homosexuality disgusting. It seems to me that
Capt. Mooron isn't interested in you either, so why don't you kill file him?

It's always amusing watching Jon complain about Mooron doing to him
what he's done to others in the past, and is continuing to do to you.

Is negative attention better than no attention at all?

Must be, LP. You're still here.....

PDW

"Peter" wrote:

Lady Pilot wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Telling... from on guy (LP)

Gaynz, you are so obsessed with me and Mooron. Sorry to disappoint you,
but
I'm not a guy and I find homosexuality disgusting. It seems to me that
Capt. Mooron isn't interested in you either, so why don't you kill file
him?

It's always amusing watching Jon complain about Mooron doing to him
what he's done to others in the past, and is continuing to do to you.

Yes, I find it amusing how easy it is to set him off. Not to mention the
hypocrisy.

Is negative attention better than no attention at all?

Must be, LP. You're still here.....

Heh...lucky you!

LP

I missed the post where you explained why Dave should help
you. Can you post it again?

Scotty


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:ase%g.7053$fl.6864@dukeread08...

"Charlie Morgan" wrote:

It was pretty clear that your post was intended to
announce that you
thought you
were going to sue somebody for a large amount of money.

Yes, a federal law has been broken, and I thought he could
give me 5 minutes
of advice on how to search for a good lawyer.

Unless you are a
complete idiot, you weren't really trying to retain a
lawyer based on his
presense in a usenet group.

I never said that I wanted to retain him. I find Dave
knowledgeable about
many things, and since he claimed to be a lawyer, he might
be intelligent
about that subject too.

That just doesn't wash for anyone with an IQ over
60.

Sorry your IQ isn't over 60. I said earlier in a post
that you were smarter
than people here give you credit. Mea culpa.

You know virtually nothing about him, or what sort of law
he specializes
in.

That is correct, I have no idea. I assume if he went to
law school, he
would know the basics. Dave said in a post as long as it
wasn't about
workers comp or a NY case, which this is not. Dave said
that his firm had a
large litigation practice, IIRC.

You don't know what states he can practice in.

I don't care, I wasn't asking him to represent me in any
shape or fashion.
Just wondering where to start on a federal case. So
you're telling me Dave
doesn't know anything about federal law? I thought you
two were becoming
friends, but now you are telling me he can't answer a
simple question about
where to start on a federal case. Got it!

Totally bull****. I'm sure Dave
realized that, too. If I was going to start buying
newspapers in NY, I
might ask
him to help out with the aquisition. He's a pretty sharp
guy. Believe me,
he
doesn't do Slip & Fall, or lumpy liposuction claims.

I guess you've had liposuction and are unsteady on your
feet, hence know
this information from talking to him? I don't have any
idea why you are
going off on me, but you seem to wake up on the wrong side
of the bed much
of the time.
All I can gather by his silence is that he doesn't want to
be bothered with
simple law questions. That's okay. Dave's a taker and
not a giver...his
choice.

Thanks for the clarification!

LP

"Peter" wrote in message
oups.com...

It's always amusing watching Jon complain about Mooron doing to him
what he's done to others in the past, and is continuing to do to you.

I think the key phrase is "in the past." It's been quite awhile since I
either called someone nasty names or complained about anyone calling me
names. Some people are unable to learn from their mistakes. I hope I'm not
one of them. Seems like you might be one of them.

Capt. JG wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
oups.com...

It's always amusing watching Jon complain about Mooron doing to him
what he's done to others in the past, and is continuing to do to you.

I think the key phrase is "in the past." It's been quite awhile since I
either called someone nasty names or complained about anyone calling me
names. Some people are unable to learn from their mistakes. I hope I'm not
one of them.

Hmmm. Explain to me the difference between Mooron calling you 'gay',
when you state emphatically that you aren't, and you calling LP a man,
when she states emphatically that she isn't.

Seems like you might be one of them.

Shrug. Your call, Jon. I'll await your explanation of the above, then
perhaps I'll change my opinion. ATM it looks to me like you still do
what you complain about.

PDW

Lady Pilot wrote:
"Peter" wrote:

Lady Pilot wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Telling... from on guy (LP)

Gaynz, you are so obsessed with me and Mooron. Sorry to disappoint you,
but
I'm not a guy and I find homosexuality disgusting. It seems to me that
Capt. Mooron isn't interested in you either, so why don't you kill file
him?

It's always amusing watching Jon complain about Mooron doing to him
what he's done to others in the past, and is continuing to do to you.

Yes, I find it amusing how easy it is to set him off. Not to mention the
hypocrisy.

Is negative attention better than no attention at all?

Must be, LP. You're still here.....

Heh...lucky you!

Generally, this n/g is good for some light amusement on a slow day,
yes. Even more rarely it provides useful information :-)

PDW

Well, I'm not perfect!

For one thing, I don't go on and on and on about it. Both he and Bob have
been doing this literally for years.

Nor do I initiate threads on the subject of LPs gender.

Seems to me that it's on a totally different scale.

Your call Peter.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Peter" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
oups.com...

It's always amusing watching Jon complain about Mooron doing to him
what he's done to others in the past, and is continuing to do to you.

I think the key phrase is "in the past." It's been quite awhile since I
either called someone nasty names or complained about anyone calling me
names. Some people are unable to learn from their mistakes. I hope I'm
not
one of them.

Hmmm. Explain to me the difference between Mooron calling you 'gay',
when you state emphatically that you aren't, and you calling LP a man,
when she states emphatically that she isn't.

Seems like you might be one of them.

Shrug. Your call, Jon. I'll await your explanation of the above, then
perhaps I'll change my opinion. ATM it looks to me like you still do
what you complain about.

PDW

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Jeff" wrote

| This, as a generality, is nonsense. There are lots of situations
| where amateurs do "serious work." Moreover, towing a boat with a boat
| not setup for towing, is not always an easy thing. Further, if the
| tow declares itself a RAM, you have to respect that.

No I don't have to respect it! People can't go around "declaring" they
are
RAM. They have to be in compliance with a rule that says they're RAM.
That's
part of what my dredge example is all about. I can tell the marine patrol
officer
that I'm a dredging but he's goona arrest me, throw me in jail and I'll
stay there
a long time because I'm not dredging. I'm breaking the law.
It's the rule that makes them RAM. Nothing else. Not if they say so,
not if God
says so... "Oh officer I say I'm obeying the speed limit so that makes it
fact." "Sorry
mam, please sign the ticket here..."

Your like otn. You left out work that severly limits maneuverability.
You can't
pick and choose. Both are a necessary part of the rule.... Using only one
part or
another is not using the rule...

| And using the trawler with its dinghy is not a good analogy. More
| often than not amateur tows involve two equally sized boats. I've
| done hundreds of tows, usually in a 13 foot Whaler, or small launch,
| and many of them I would consider "unruly." Though I never had lights
| I often conveyed with gestures my hope that other would give me a wide
| berth. BTW, try towing a flooded dinghy sometime - slowing down is
| not a good option because the boat will immediately swerve and
| capsize. When the tow has a lot of momentum, the options become very
| limited.

So, the rule says nothing about limited options. It says work that
severely
limits maneuverabilty. Your whaler loses both ways. It's not work as shown
in the examples, (any court would say doing a favor isn't work) and
there's
no severe limitation of maneuverability. You know severe don't you. Look
at the
examples. A dredge is stuck to the pipe. It's severly limited. A
minsweeper has
to stay on a particular course or it will blow up. It's severly limited. A
salvage
or dive operator is attached to the wreck or divers by hoses and cables.
And
on it goes. Show me one example in the rule where the boat can turn right,
turn left, go forward, back up, go around in circles, speed up slow down,
stop
and drink a beer. All the things it can do normally...

| And one more thing: you should listen to Otn, he has more experience
| than all of us put together.

Maybe so but experience isn't the be all and end all. Lawyers and the
courts are.
That's why the rules have to be looked at with a legal eye. Legal and
experience are
two different things. The court will call *expert* witnesses but they're
only a
small part of the proceedings. Sorry, but I can't seem to have much
respect for
otn when it comes to his understanding of this rule. He's wrong. Those
little
pleasure boats-neither one is RAM. The one that was broke down was NUC but
that's another story. You seem to be familiar with court cases and the
rules.
I bet there's one proving me right.

Cheers,
Ellen

Quite a knowledgeable post from such a diminutive blond bimbette.

If only you really looked like those photos, Neal.

Max

Maxprop wrote:

Quite a knowledgeable post from such a diminutive blond bimbette.

If only you really looked like those photos, Neal.

Max

And of course, incorrect. More confirmation its Neal.

"Maxprop" wrote
| Quite a knowledgeable post from such a diminutive blond bimbette.
| If only you really looked like those photos, Neal.


People have too much imagination. They don't understand something so they run around
calling it a sock puppet or a lie or a bimbette.... The more you talk the more you show your
ignorance. Maybe your in the wrong news group. This is alt.sailing.asa not ass!

Cheers,
Ellen