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Capt. Rob October 20th 06 10:12 PM

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This morning we got the main set up, long soft battens in and then got
the sail about 95% up while I swapped out the outhaul control lines,
then.....set out to see how the main would fare. It was not blowing
much...just under 7-10 knots at the most and raining off an on as we
sailed.
What a revelation. I know sails are important but WOW!!!! The boat
sailed fast and every puff of air seemed to translate into an instant
increase of speed...as though the kevlar sail was a solid object. The
boat went upwind better and the sail is gorgeous to look at. The main
also seems to weigh half of what the old sails did.

When I got home the Pentax-Mylar genoa was waiting for me. I couldn't
believe how little it weighed compared to the much heavier yet smaller
mylar 110. I was told this sail rated an 8-9 for condition, but it
seems to be in at least the same 9+ condition as the mainsail. Sadly
it's now blowing something fierce outside, so I'm not about to do a
sailchange until it's a bit nicer.

I will post pics when both sails are flying....probably tomorrow or
Sunday!

Very happy with these sails!!!!!




RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart October 20th 06 11:51 PM

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Nutsy,

Glad you're happy with your sails. I hope it isn't the same song you
sang about your old sail when you purchased the boat.

Also hope you'll be happy with their length of service. Again, I'm not
sure I would have gone with plastic rather than Dacron for "Knocking
About" but also understand that's a personal matter.

Happy Sailing Nutsy. I'm envious!


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Ringmaster October 21st 06 12:55 AM

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Gee, welcome to the new millennium.


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 12:55 AM

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Also hope you'll be happy with their length of service. Again, I'm not
sure I would have gone with plastic rather than Dacron for "Knocking
About" but also understand that's a personal matter.


I have a nearly new set if high tech sails for 1200 bucks, plus the guy
who runs the loft is sending me a lazy jack kit. Considering what I was
about to pay for a set of crosscut, I did pretty well. On top of that
some good business came out of it. Even if I decide I want a dacron
cruising tri-radial, it will only cost me about 1700 bucks. Places like
North and UK wanted 2500 for a crosscut! I'm probably getting a
asymetrical chute from them as well now.
It's been a win win win situation thus far.


RB
35s5
NY


Scotty October 21st 06 01:48 AM

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putting high tech ( slick ) sails on the Boobs' daysailor is
like putting wheelie bars on a Honda 50.

it's like putting drag slicks on a Chevy Vega.

like a hood scoop on a V W Beetle

chrome wheels on a Ugo.

radar on a Mac 26 Xm.

it's like owning an SUV in NYC




"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...
Gee, welcome to the new millennium.




Capt. Rob October 21st 06 02:20 AM

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it's like putting drag slicks on a Chevy Vega.




Or putting some tired middle aged failure of a man on a Seidelmann 295.


Oh, wait. That fits.




RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 02:27 AM

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Ringmaster wrote:
Gee, welcome to the new millennium.



Holy frikin' irony, Batman!

http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/...?1150292192000



RB
35s5
NY


Joe October 21st 06 03:14 AM

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Scotty wrote:
putting high tech ( slick ) sails on the Boobs' daysailor is
like putting wheelie bars on a Honda 50.

it's like putting drag slicks on a Chevy Vega.


whats wrong with Vegas?
http://www.70sfunnycars.com/Photos/Southern.jpg

like a hood scoop on a V W Beetle


This one needs one
http://www.race-inn.ch/file/VW_Drac.jpg

chrome wheels on a Ugo.


Bond.............. James Bond
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...iscpics019.jpg
r
radar on a Mac 26 Xm.


If you can ski you can have radar
http://www.penyachts.com/images/macski.gif

it's like owning an SUV in NYC


thats the way to go in NYC
http://www.aavi.com/suburban-luxury.html


Joe


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 03:42 AM

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thats the way to go in NYC
http://www.aavi.com/suburban-luxury.html



Hey, Joe...you're talking to a guy who never owned a nice car in
Scotty. I also gave the Tribeca AWD to my father to use since we're
using the van full time now...so we don't even have an SUV in NY. You
can bet Scotty never gave his old man a 38K+ gift like that. I bet he
did give his old man quite a bit of shame though.

Let me know if you need some sails, Joe (not on here). I'll hook you
up. I just set up a 3rd boat (Tartan 33) with a tri-radial headsail and
new Furlex system. I'm looking at the Furlex myself.


RB
35s5
NY


Ringmaster October 21st 06 04:13 AM

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The Boobster keep finding early examples in an attempt to put down the
Express 30. Hey, Boob I'm sure you came across this one but just
forgot to post a picture.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1599129/0


Ringmaster October 21st 06 04:18 AM

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Again, I'm not sure I would have gone with plastic rather than
Dacron for "Knocking About" but also understand that's a personal
matter.

You must understand ......... The Boobster is a poser. That's all.


Scotty October 21st 06 02:39 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...




http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/...824_2.jpg?1150
292192000


Nice looking boat. Are you the 'broker', Bob?

SBV





Scotty October 21st 06 02:40 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

thats the way to go in NYC
http://www.aavi.com/suburban-luxury.html



Hey, Joe...you're talking to a guy who never owned a nice

car in
Scotty.



I have never owned a car, period.

Scotty



Scotty October 21st 06 02:42 PM

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Joe, remember the wheelie pulling V W bus, back in the 70s ?

SBV


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

Scotty wrote:
putting high tech ( slick ) sails on the Boobs'

daysailor is
like putting wheelie bars on a Honda 50.

it's like putting drag slicks on a Chevy Vega.


whats wrong with Vegas?
http://www.70sfunnycars.com/Photos/Southern.jpg

like a hood scoop on a V W Beetle


This one needs one
http://www.race-inn.ch/file/VW_Drac.jpg

chrome wheels on a Ugo.


Bond.............. James Bond

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...rerack/misc%20
pics/miscpics019.jpg
r
radar on a Mac 26 Xm.


If you can ski you can have radar
http://www.penyachts.com/images/macski.gif

it's like owning an SUV in NYC


thats the way to go in NYC
http://www.aavi.com/suburban-luxury.html


Joe




Capt. Rob October 21st 06 03:36 PM

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I have never owned a car, period.



That's what I said: You never owned a nice car and you certainly never
gave anything like an car to your poor dad.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 03:39 PM

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Nice looking boat. Are you the 'broker', Bob?



Nope. The only way we'd broker that thing is by repo. I have a nicer
looking Santana 30/30 coming up for sale, but even that's too dated to
gather much interest. The Express 30 is a bargain boat for folks who
can only spend about 20K or so. As much as poor Sloco likes to pretend
he owns a baby Swan, his boat is little more than a faster Catalina 30
with an even worse interior. My C&C 32 was far nicer and still fun to
sail.
Dead weight finds it's own level.



RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 04:15 PM

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Oh...and the Santana 3030 is faster than the Express 30, though not as
well built.



RB
35s5
NY


Joe October 21st 06 05:50 PM

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Scotty wrote:
Joe, remember the wheelie pulling V W bus, back in the 70s ?


Nope, but googled this one:
http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/events/01...us+Wheelie.jpg

Once I lift in the 428 Cobra jet in my Econoline.... I'll install the
wheelie bars.

http://www.dragtimes.com/images/7441...reet%20Rod.jpg
Even the right color...Poopie Red, but my cab will be white

Joe

SBV


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
.

Scotty wrote:
putting high tech ( slick ) sails on the Boobs'

daysailor is
like putting wheelie bars on a Honda 50.

it's like putting drag slicks on a Chevy Vega.


whats wrong with Vegas?
http://www.70sfunnycars.com/Photos/Southern.jpg

like a hood scoop on a V W Beetle


This one needs one
http://www.race-inn.ch/file/VW_Drac.jpg

chrome wheels on a Ugo.


Bond.............. James Bond

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...rerack/misc%20
pics/miscpics019.jpg
r
radar on a Mac 26 Xm.


If you can ski you can have radar
http://www.penyachts.com/images/macski.gif

it's like owning an SUV in NYC


thats the way to go in NYC
http://www.aavi.com/suburban-luxury.html


Joe



Joe October 21st 06 05:58 PM

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Scotty wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...




http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/5/...824_2.jpg?1150
292192000


Nice looking boat. Are you the 'broker', Bob?

SBV


It is a nice looking boat.

Joe


Thom Stewart October 21st 06 08:44 PM

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Nutsy,

Your comment on the Santana is probably the most Under Stated comment
you've ever posted;
___________________________-
though not as well built
------------------------------------------
Internally they are a diaster


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Ringmaster October 21st 06 09:06 PM

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The Express 30 is a bargain boat for folks who can only spend about
20K or so..

That's funny, the last one to change hands in the US went for $29.5K.


Ringmaster October 21st 06 09:11 PM

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As much as poor Sloco likes to pretend
he owns a baby Swan, his boat is little more than a faster Catalina
30

LOL............... About 40 seconds a mile faster.
Oh and don't forget in some of those race results that were posted a
while back Catalina 30s racing in PHRF C finished ahead of the Beneteau
35s5 that were racing in PHRF B.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

35s5 a great boat for posers and ******s.


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 11:22 PM

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LOL............... About 40 seconds a mile faster.
Oh and don't forget in some of those race results that were posted a
while back Catalina 30s racing in PHRF



Catalina 30's win a lot of PHRF races with their ratings. My
ex-girlfriend beats faster boats than yours every week. She just
ordered a radial main from me.



RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 21st 06 11:26 PM

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That's funny, the last one to change hands in the US went for $29.5K.




A total lie. I know of one that sold for 17K less than a month ago. If
someone paid 29.5K for one I'd sure like to laugh at him! Most of the
Express 30's on yachtworld sit forever. There's a genuinly nice one up
there now...the nicest I've seen.
On the other hand ALL of the 35s5's we were watching are now sold. The
three local to use all sold for more than we paid. Another 35s5 in NJ
sold for 69K.
I've just ordered a beautiful asym-chute for the 35s5! My cost? Nada!!!
Is 100% off a good deal, Sloco??? Is it better than your 50%?


RB
35s5
NY


Ellen MacArthur October 21st 06 11:29 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote |
| A total lie. I know of one that sold for 17K less than a month ago.

Please go away. Better yet please die!

Cheers,
Ellen

Capt. Rob October 22nd 06 12:27 AM

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote |
| A total lie. I know of one that sold for 17K less than a month ago.

Please go away. Better yet please die!




You seem to be every bit as clever as Sloco!!!




RB
35s5
NY


[email protected] October 22nd 06 12:37 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:

ALL of the 35s5's we were watching are now sold.
The three local to use all sold for more than we paid.
Another 35s5 in NJ sold for 69K.


What's the story about the B 35s5 (named, "Azylum") w/ partly fixed
damage on the starboard side hat's been sitting on the hard for quite
some time in Mam'k ?


Ringmaster October 22nd 06 01:04 AM

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A total lie. I know of one that sold for 17K less than a month
ago. If
someone paid 29.5K for one I'd sure like to laugh at him! Most of the
Express 30's on yachtworld sit forever.

A total lie? Hey poser are you saying that you are up on every boat
that gets sold today?
As far as "sitting forever" goes the last one I saw for sale that
went for the asking price of $29.5K sold in a few weeks.
I sure don't know of every Express 30 that changes hands. Please
post the name and wherabouts of the Express 30 that sold for $17K. If
it's true I'll bet it was a 30M. I'll be waiting.
By the way the cheap 30M is faster than your boat. (grin)

35s5 for posers and ******s.


Capt. Rob October 22nd 06 01:13 AM

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A total lie? Hey poser are you saying that you are up on every boat
that gets sold today?

Nope, and YOU said the last one that sold was for 29.5K, not the last
one YOU KNEW about. So YOU lied, not I.


As far as "sitting forever" goes the last one I saw for sale that
went for the asking price of $29.5K sold in a few weeks.

The last one you SAW, was probably not the last one to sell. Meanwhile
there have been several Express 30's sitting unwanted on Yachtworld for
more than a YEAR.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!


RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart October 22nd 06 04:27 AM

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My ex-girlfriend beats faster boats than yours every week. She just
ordered a radial main from me.
RB
35s5
NY
Sure she did Nutsy; She's also going to pay for it with the Same "Make
Believe" money.



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Ringmaster October 22nd 06 04:58 AM

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Nope, and YOU said the last one that sold was for 29.5K, not the
last
one YOU KNEW about. So YOU lied, not I.

Nice try. Still waiting for the name and wherabouts of the boat you
said sold for $17K.


Ringmaster October 23rd 06 03:45 AM

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Still waiting.

35s5 should be in PHRF 'C'


Capt. Rob October 23rd 06 12:30 PM

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Ringmaster wrote:
Still waiting.




Waiting for what? You want the name of the Express 30 that was sold?
Why? I didn't notice. It was sold privately at Coney's Marine and I
knew about it because we co-brokered a Catalina 42 there.
Notice I didn't ask for your info on an Express sale? That's cuz I
could care less. If someone was dumb enough to spend near 30K on a
Depress 30....well, it's their money to waste.
Tell us, Sloco? Is your Express-o-Saurus 30 one of the models with an
enclosed head aft? Got any pics of her for the group to admire? If
you'd just stop your jealous crying and appreciate and share what you
have you'd be a happier fellow!


RB
35s5
NY


Ringmaster October 23rd 06 06:18 PM

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That's what I figured. I guess we all know who the bull****ter is now.


Scotty October 23rd 06 07:23 PM

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We knew long ago.



"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...
That's what I figured. I guess we all know who the

bull****ter is now.




DSK October 24th 06 12:44 PM

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Ringmaster wrote:
That's what I figured. I guess we all know who the bull****ter is now.


Most of us spotted him long long ago.

DSK


Capt. Rob October 24th 06 12:58 PM

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DSK wrote:
Ringmaster wrote:
That's what I figured. I guess we all know who the bull****ter is now.


Most of us spotted him long long ago.




Doug, are you calling Sloco SLOW????!!!



RB
35s5
NY



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