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Recalled yet again!

Gilligan wrote:
http://www.carseverything.com/256/2006-kia-sedona-recalls.html

Recalls only effected certain serial #s. So far the only recall on my
car was for a latch sensor.
9K miles and not one rattle or squeak. Averaged 24.5 MPG to PA last
week and was able to get a whole booth setup for the Jones Beach boat
show into the van! Meanwhile, my friends Toyota Sienna (which cost 2K
more) has a wheel bearing problem that won't go away. His AC quit last
month and the rotors keep warping. It's a 2005.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Gilligan wrote:
http://www.carseverything.com/256/2006-kia-sedona-recalls.html

Recalls only effected certain serial #s. So far the only recall on my
car was for a latch sensor.

That's a third recall, one that is not on the above list. Any others?

Regarding Sienna recalls:

http://www.carseverything.com/256/20...a-recalls.html

Not a single one.

Sienna is built in the USA.

Recalled yet again!

http://www.carseverything.com/256/20...a-recalls.html

Not a single one.

I'd rather have a single recall like I have, rather than Toyota service
arguing over why two sets of rotors have warped. The Sienna required a
whole new brain to fix the AC problem by the way. I still think the
Sienna will be a great minivan when it gets a bigger engine. Are you
aware of the Sienna fuel pump issues? You're not doing your homework.
As usual I could do far better taking YOUR side!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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http://www.carseverything.com/256/20...a-recalls.html

Not a single one.

I'd rather have a single recall like I have, rather than Toyota service
arguing over why two sets of rotors have warped. The Sienna required a
whole new brain to fix the AC problem by the way. I still think the
Sienna will be a great minivan when it gets a bigger engine. Are you
aware of the Sienna fuel pump issues? You're not doing your homework.
As usual I could do far better taking YOUR side!

Bob,

I'm not taking any side. I'm just pointing out that the 2006 KIA Sedona has
had 2+ recalls. The 2006 Toyota Sienna has had none.

Toyotas does get problems. The Sienna has a lot of features and complexity,
a lot of things could go wrong.

The recalls are representative of all cars of that year, model and
manufacturing lot. That's why it is a recall.

Your friends problems are not indicative of all Siennas or any class of
Siennas because it is an individual case.

Hot rotors will warp when splashed with cold water at a car wash, rotors
will warp from uneven lug nut tightness.

There is no fuel pump issue, just an exploding gas tank issue on the 2004
Sienna during an offset front impact.

As far as recalls go: KIA 3 TOYOTA 0.

Recalled yet again!

1363 of 1369 2006 Sedona EX (Power Sliding Door not always latching) by
thehothit Oct 10, 2006 (10:11 am)
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I have a 2006 Sedona EX with Luxury and Power Packages. The passenger side
Power Sliding Door doesn't always close properly - failing to latch. It then
either pops slighly open and gives up, or slides open all of the way and
beeps. I usually have to try to close the door about 3 or 4 times before it
works correctly!

The dealer "couldn't reproduce the problem", but it appears as though at
least one other person is experiencing the same problem (they've posted a
video on youtube).

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
#1364 of 1369 2006 Kia Sedona EX mystery problem by gasedona Oct 14, 2006
(6:26 am)
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I purchased my Kia minivan in March 06 and have not had any problems with it
until recently. around the 9,200 mile mark on my way to work I felt a ripple
going about 45 then a few seconds later the check engine light flashed off
and on and my I experienced a great loss of power. I took the van to Kia
Mall of Georgia and they said the problem was multiple misfire and the #4
coil was bad. I got the van back and have had the same problem happen
between 200 - 300 miles three more times. The second time all spark plugs
were changed. the third time the ECU (computer) was changed, and the fourth
time the dealer says that the ECU is reading my antifreeze at 46.7 when the
problem occurs. They have no idea how to fix this, they have told me that
Kia may have to make a software patch or new software to fix the problem.
The dealer has my van to drive because the service manager wants to
experience exactly what happens when this mystery occurs. The dealer has had
my van for a total of 3 weeks going into the fourth. I am thinking here I
don't know what else to do. I anyone has experienced this problem and had it
fixed let me know. If you have a van now be advised that my problem did not
occur until I had 9,200 miles on it. One other remark, This problem can
happen when van is started, stopping, or accelerating.
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. thehothit (Oct 14, 2006 11:09 am)
. gasedona (Oct 15, 2006 8:57 am)
. tturedraider (Oct 14, 2006 12:09 pm)
. gasedona (Oct 15, 2006 9:01 am)

#1365 of 1369 kia sedona wind howl [navyair] by rgochoa Oct 14, 2006
(9:41 am)
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Replying to: navyair (Sep 06, 2006 7:21 am)

Thanks for you info. However, I had the problem with the crossbars and
solved it myself by just installing them all the way to the front and to the
back. The howl I am getting is coming from the driver side a/c vent only on
very windy days at highway speed. I suspect a loose hose, valve or something
of that sort. No luck with dealership as yet.
#1366 of 1369 2006 Kia Sedona EX mystery problem [gasedona] by
thehothit Oct 14, 2006 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: gasedona (Oct 14, 2006 6:26 am)

Almost 4 weeks at the dealer is unacceptable - can you go to another dealer?
Also, maybe you should give Kia themselves a call, and report the problem to
them.

I suggest that you research the Lemon law in your state.
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. gasedona (Oct 15, 2006 8:57 am)

#1367 of 1369 2006 Kia Sedona EX mystery problem [gasedona] by
tturedraider Oct 14, 2006 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: gasedona (Oct 14, 2006 6:26 am)

Generally speaking I think your problem probably qualifies under the Lemon
Laws.

Has your dealer provided you with a vehicle to drive while he has yours?
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. gasedona (Oct 15, 2006 9:01 am)

#1368 of 1369 2006 Kia Sedona EX mystery problem [thehothit] by
gasedona Oct 15, 2006 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: thehothit (Oct 14, 2006 11:09 am)

I have tried other dealerships with no success. Kia corporate is well aware
of the problem. I think all this extra driving is a stalling tactic so Kia
can have more time to fix the problem
#1369 of 1369 2006 Kia Sedona EX mystery problem [tturedraider] by
gasedona Oct 15, 2006 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: tturedraider (Oct 14, 2006 12:09 pm)

I have had a rental that Kia is paying for on the three of four occasions,
they always claim the loaners are all out. This is the last shot for Kia, I
will act on the lemon law.

Recalled yet again!

As far as recalls go: KIA 3 TOYOTA 0.

This is true, but the Sienna has had many recalls, like most cars in
it's full history with it's current chassis. The Sedona is all new for
2006 and the recalls, effecting a small amount of actual vans, is
small. I didn't buy the Sienna because I know several people with them
and they have had trouble. It's much worse for the #1 rated Honda if
you read the forums. Motortrend rated the Sedona a close second behind
the Honda and said it created the most buzz among reviewers because of
the high standards it set. When I helped a friend buy a pair of XB's
last week, even that dealer admitted the Sienna was now 3rd behind the
Sedona. He still prefered the Honda over the Sedona though for it's
handling.
They're all great minivans, but the Sienna is too long in the tooth now
with it's weak powerplant. I'm sure the new Sienna will be #1 when we
see it. For now this van is perfect after 9K miles and we just added
Garmin navigation, which is more cool than useful...but sometimes it's
VERY useful when I'm in NJ!

RB
35s5
NY

Recalled yet again!

Oh....Gilly, I had no idea you were trolling. Kia replaced the WHOLE
VAN after the fuel pump was making noise and a seat was sticking on the
rails. Two or more problems and Kia will recall the vehicle utterly and
provide a new one. Did you know about this policy? Hyundai has it and
instated it on Kia as well of course. Only Saturn will do the same.
Like I said, the Sedona is the most trouble free car we've owned....and
I've owned Toyota, Nissan, Subaru and so on. Among them all Subaru is
still my favorite.

Now, to easily reverse the troll....you simply can't explain away that
the Sienna has too small an engine, lesser crash tests, lesser handling
and so on. If New Rochelle Toyota admits the Sedona is better, I think
Toyota better hurry with their new van...and fast.

End of this thread for me. I thought you were looking to discuss MY
van...not other people's vans.

RB
35s5
NY

Recalled yet again!

My Subaru (a 36K SUV) had loss
of TC and antilock 3 times and cost me 3 days of work. Two new caravans

suffered steering problems, major electrical issues and worse.

Yup, and my Camry had complete tranny failure and I ended up in a legal
battle that I'm literrally not allowed to talk about, though they
eventually took care of me.
My Sedona is the most problem free car so far. But the bottom line is
that all Japanese/Korean cars are very good and getting better. Don't
buy American cars as they are now the worst in the world by far. Check
the fit and finish of any Lincoln, Chrysler or GM and laugh at them
until they improve or go under.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Oh....Gilly, I had no idea you were trolling. Kia replaced the WHOLE
VAN after the fuel pump was making noise and a seat was sticking on the
rails. Two or more problems and Kia will recall the vehicle utterly and
provide a new one. Did you know about this policy?

So KIA is replacing all of its Sedonas since they have had two recalls.

Show us that policy in writing.

You lie!

Recalled yet again!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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My Sedona is the most problem free car so far.

Which one?

The first one or the second one?

Recalled yet again!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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My Sedona is the most problem free car so far.

You bought a lemon!

General Business Law, section 198-a,

General Business Law, section 198-a. Warranties

(a) As used in this section:

(1) "Consumer" means the purchaser, lessee or transferee, other than for
purposes of resale, of a motor vehicle which is used primarily for personal,
family or household purposes and any other person entitled by the terms of
the manufacturer's warranty to enforce the obligations of such warranty;

(2) "Motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle excluding off road vehicles,
which was subject to a manufacturer's express warranty at the time of
original delivery and either (i) was purchased, leased or transferred in
this state within either the first eighteen thousand miles of operation or
two years from the date of original delivery, whichever is earlier, or (ii)
is registered in this state;

(3) "Manufacturer's express warranty" or "warranty" means the written
warranty, so labeled, of the manufacturer of a new motor vehicle, including
any terms or conditions precedent to the enforcement of obligations under
that warranty.

(4) "Mileage deduction formula" means the mileage which is in excess of
twelve thousand miles times the purchase price, or the lease price if
applicable, of the vehicle divided by one hundred thousand miles.

(5) "Lessee" means any consumer who leases a motor vehicle pursuant to a
written lease agreement which provides that the lessee is responsible for
repairs to such motor vehicle.

(6) "Lease price" means the aggregate of:

(i) the lessor's actual purchase cost;
(ii) the freight cost, if applicable;
(iii) the cost for accessories, if applicable;
(iv) any fee paid to another to obtain the lease; and
(v) an amount equal to five percent of the lessor's actual purchase cost
as prescribed in subparagraph (i) of this paragraph.

(7) "Service fees" -- means the portion of a lease payment attributable
to:

(i) an amount for earned interest calculated on the rental payments
previously paid to the lessor for the leased vehicle at an annual rate equal
to two points above the prime rate in effect on the date of the execution of
the lease; and

(ii) any insurance or other costs expended by the lessor for the benefit
of the lessee.

(8) "Capitalized cost" means the aggregate deposit and rental payments
previously paid to the lessor for the leased vehicle less service fees.

(b)

(1) If a new motor vehicle which is sold and registered in this state does
not conform to all express warranties during the first eighteen thousand
miles of operation or during the period of two years following the date of
original delivery of the motor vehicle to such consumer, whichever is the
earlier date, the consumer shall during such period report the
nonconformity, defect or condition to the manufacturer, its agent or its
authorized dealer. If the notification is received by the manufacturer's
agent or authorized dealer, the agent or dealer shall within seven days
forward written notice thereof to the manufacturer by certified mail, return
receipt requested, and shall include in such notice a statement indicating
whether or not such repairs have been undertaken. The manufacturer, its
agent or its authorized dealer shall correct said nonconformity, defect or
condition at no charge to the consumer, notwithstanding the fact that such
repairs are made after the expiration of such period of operation or such
two year period.

(2) If a manufacturer's agent or authorized dealer refuses to undertake
repairs within seven days of receipt of the notice by a consumer of a
nonconformity, defect or condition pursuant to paragraph one of this
subdivision, the consumer may immediately forward written notice of such
refusal to the manufacturer by certified mail, return receipt requested. The
manufacturer or its agent shall have twenty days from receipt of such notice
of refusal to commence such repairs. If within such twenty day period, the
manufacturer or its authorized agent fails to commence such repairs, the
manufacturer at the option of the consumer, shall replace the motor vehicle
with a comparable motor vehicle, or accept return of the vehicle from the
consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or, if
applicable, the lease price and any trade-in allowance plus fees and
charges. Such fees and charges shall include but not be limited to all
license fees, registration fees and any similar governmental charges, less
an allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle in excess of the first
twelve thousand miles of operation pursuant to the mileage deduction formula
defined in paragraph four of subdivision (a) of this section, and a
reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal wear or
improvements.

(c)

(1) If, within the period specified in subdivision (b) of this section,
the manufacturer or its agents or authorized dealers are unable to repair or
correct any defect or condition which substantially impairs the value of the
motor vehicle to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts, the
manufacturer, at the option of the consumer, shall replace the motor vehicle
with a comparable motor vehicle, or accept return of the vehicle from the
consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or, if
applicable, the lease price and any trade-in allowance plus fees and
charges. Any return of a motor vehicle may, at the option of the consumer,
be made to the dealer or other authorized agent of the manufacturer who sold
such vehicle to the consumer or to the dealer or other authorized agent who
attempted to repair or correct the defect or condition which necessitated
the return and shall not be subject to any further shipping charges. Such
fees and charges shall include but not be limited to all license fees,
registration fees and any similar governmental charges, less an allowance
for the consumer's use of the vehicle in excess of the first twelve thousand
miles of operation pursuant to the mileage deduction formula defined in
paragraph four of subdivision (a) of this section, and a reasonable
allowance for any damage not attributable to normal wear or improvements.

(2) A manufacturer which accepts return of the motor vehicle because the
motor vehicle does not conform to its warranty shall notify the commissioner
of the department of motor vehicles that the motor vehicle was returned to
the manufacturer for nonconformity to its warranty and shall disclose, in
accordance with the provisions of section four hundred seventeen-a of the
vehicle and traffic law prior to resale either at wholesale or retail, that
it was previously returned to the manufacturer for nonconformity to its
warranty. Refunds shall be made to the consumer and lienholder, if any, as
their interests may appear on the records of ownership kept by the
department of motor vehicles. Refunds shall be accompanied by the proper
application for credit or refund of state and local sales taxes as published
by the department of taxation and finance and by a notice that the sales tax
paid on the purchase price, lease price or portion thereof being refunded is
refundable by the commissioner of taxation and finance in accordance with
the provisions of subdivision (f) of section eleven hundred thirty-nine of
the tax law. If applicable, refunds shall be made to the lessor and lessee
as their interests may appear on the records of ownership kept by the
department of motor vehicles, as follows: the lessee shall receive the
capitalized cost and the lessor shall receive the lease price less the
aggregate deposit and rental payments previously paid to the lessor for the
leased vehicle. The terms of the lease shall be deemed terminated
contemporaneously with the date of the arbitrator's decision and award and
no penalty for early termination shall be assessed as a result thereof.
Refunds shall be accompanied by the proper application form for credit or
refund of state and local sales tax as published by the department of
taxation and finance and a notice that the sales tax paid on the lease price
or portion thereof being refunded is refundable by the Commissioner of
Taxation and Finance in accordance with the provisions of subdivision (f) of
section eleven hundred thirty-nine of the tax law.

(3) It shall be an affirmative defense to any claim under this section
that:

(i) the nonconformity, defect or condition does not substantially impair
such value; or
(ii) the nonconformity, defect or condition is the result of abuse,
neglect or unauthorized modifications or alterations of the motor vehicle.

(d) It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been
undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties,
if:

(1) the same nonconformity, defect or condition has been subject to repair
four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents or authorized dealers
within the first eighteen thousand miles of operation or during the period
of two years following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to
a consumer, whichever is the earlier date, but such nonconformity, defect or
condition continues to exist: or

(2) the vehicle is out of service by reason of repair of one or more
nonconformities, defects or conditions for a cumulative total of thirty or
more calendar days during either period, whichever is the earlier date.

(e) The term of an express warranty, the two year warranty period and the
thirty day out of service period shall be extended by any time during which
repair services are not available to the consumer because of a war, invasion
or strike, fire, flood or other natural disaster.

(f) Nothing in this section shall in any way limit the rights or remedies
which are otherwise available to a consumer under any other law.

(g) If a manufacturer has established an informal dispute settlement
mechanism, such mechanism shall comply in all respects with the provisions
of this section and the provisions of subdivision (c) of this section
concerning refunds or replacement shall not apply to any consumer who has
not first resorted to such mechanism. In the event that an arbitrator in
such an informal dispute mechanism awards a refund or replacement vehicle,
he or she shall not reduce the award to an amount less than the full
purchase price or the lease price, if applicable, or a vehicle of equal
value, plus all fees and charges except to the extent such reductions are
specifically permitted under subdivision (c) of this section.

(h) A manufacturer shall have up to thirty days from the date the consumer
notifies the manufacturer of his or her acceptance of the arbitrator's
decision to comply with the terms of that decision. Failure to comply with
the thirty day limitation shall also entitle the consumer to recover a fee
of twenty-five dollars for each business day of noncompliance up to five
hundred dollars. Provided, however, that nothing contained in this
subdivision shall impose any liability on a manufacturer where a delay
beyond the thirty day period is attributable to a consumer who has requested
a replacement vehicle built to order or with options that are not comparable
to the vehicle being replaced or otherwise made compliance impossible within
said period. In no event shall a consumer who has resorted to an informal
dispute settlement mechanism be precluded from seeking the rights or
remedies available by law.

(i) Any agreement entered into by a consumer for the purchase of a new motor
vehicle which waives, limits or disclaims the rights set forth in this
section shall be void as contrary to public policy. Said rights shall inure
to a subsequent transferee of such motor vehicle.

(j) Any action brought pursuant to this section shall be commenced within
four years of the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the
consumer.

(k) Each consumer shall have the option of submitting any dispute arising
under this section upon the payment of a prescribed filing fee to an
alternate arbitration mechanism established pursuant to regulations
promulgated hereunder by the New York state attorney general. Upon
application of the consumer and payment of the filing fee, all manufacturers
shall submit to such alternate arbitration.

Such alternate arbitration shall be conducted by a professional arbitrator
or arbitration firm appointed by and under regulations established by the
New York state attorney general. Such mechanism shall insure the personal
objectivity of its arbitrators and the right of each party to present its
case, to be in attendance during any presentation made by the other party
and to rebut or refute such presentation. In all other respects, such
alternate arbitration mechanism shall be governed by article seventy-five of
the civil practice law and rules.

(l) A court may award reasonable attorney's fees to a prevailing plaintiff
or to a consumer who prevails in any judicial action or proceeding arising
out of an arbitration proceeding held pursuant to subdivision (k) of this
section. In the event a prevailing plaintiff is required to retain the
services of an attorney to enforce the collection of an award granted
pursuant to this section, the court may assess against the manufacturer
reasonable attorney's fees for services rendered to enforce collection of
said award.

(m)

(1) Each manufacturer shall require that each informal dispute settlement
mechanism used by it provide, at a minimum, the following:

(i) that the arbitrators participating in such mechanism are trained in
arbitration and familiar with the provisions of this section, that the
arbitrators and consumers who request arbitration are provided with a
written copy of the provisions of this section, together with the notice set
forth below entitled "NEW CAR LEMON LAW BILL OF RIGHTS", and that consumers,
upon request, are given an opportunity to make an oral presentation to the
arbitrator;

(ii) that the rights and procedures used in the mechanism comply with
federal regulations promulgated by the federal trade commission relating to
informal dispute settlement mechanisms; and

(iii) that the remedies set forth under subdivision (c) of this section
are awarded if, after a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken
under subdivision (d) of this section to conform the vehicle to the express
warranties, the defect or nonconformity still exists.

(2) The following notice shall be provided to consumers and arbitrators
and shall be printed in conspicuous ten point bold face type:

NEW CAR LEMON LAW BILL OF RIGHTS

(1) IN ADDITION TO ANY WARRANTIES OFFERED BY THE MANUFACTURER, YOUR NEW
CAR, IF PURCHASED AND REGISTERED IN NEW YORK STATE, IS WARRANTED AGAINST ALL
MATERIAL DEFECTS FOR EIGHTEEN THOUSAND MILES OR TWO YEARS, WHICHEVER COMES
FIRST.

(2) YOU MUST REPORT ANY PROBLEMS TO THE MANUFACTURER, ITS AGENT, OR
AUTHORIZED DEALER.

(3) UPON NOTIFICATION, THE PROBLEM MUST BE CORRECTED FREE OF CHARGE.

(4) IF THE SAME PROBLEM CANNOT BE REPAIRED AFTER FOUR OR MORE ATTEMPTS;
OR IF YOUR CAR IS OUT OF SERVICE TO REPAIR A PROBLEM FOR A TOTAL OF THIRTY
DAYS DURING THE WARRANTY PERIOD; OR IF THE MANUFACTURER OR ITS AGENT REFUSES
TO REPAIR A SUBSTANTIAL DEFECT OR CONDITION WITHIN TWENTY DAYS OF RECEIPT OF
NOTICE SENT BY YOU TO THE MANUFACTURER BY CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT
REQUESTED; THEN YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO EITHER A COMPARABLE CAR OR A REFUND
OF YOUR PURCHASE PRICE, PLUS LICENSE AND REGISTRATION FEES, MINUS A MILEAGE
ALLOWANCE ONLY IF THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN DRIVEN MORE THAN 12,000 MILES.
SPECIAL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS MAY APPLY TO MOTOR HOMES.

(5) A MANUFACTURER MAY DENY LIABILITY IF THE PROBLEM IS CAUSED BY ABUSE,
NEGLECT, OR UNAUTHORIZED MODIFICATIONS OF THE CAR.

(6) A MANUFACTURER MAY REFUSE TO EXCHANGE A COMPARABLE CAR OR REFUND
YOUR PURCHASE PRICE IF THE PROBLEM DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPAIR THE VALUE
OF YOUR CAR.

(7) IF A MANUFACTURER HAS ESTABLISHED AN ARBITRATION PROCEDURE, THE
MANUFACTURER MAY REFUSE TO EXCHANGE A COMPARABLE CAR OR REFUND YOUR PURCHASE
PRICE UNTIL YOU FIRST RESORT TO THE PROCEDURE.

(8) IF THE MANUFACTURER DOES NOT HAVE AN ARBITRATION PROCEDURE, YOU MAY
RESORT TO ANY REMEDY BY LAW AND MAY BE ENTITLED TO YOUR ATTORNEYS FEES IF
YOU PREVAIL.

(9) NO CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT CAN VOID ANY OF THESE RIGHTS.

(10) AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ARBITRATION PROCEDURE MADE AVAILABLE
THROUGH THE MANUFACTURER, YOU MAY INSTEAD CHOOSE TO SUBMIT YOUR CLAIM TO AN
INDEPENDENT ARBITRATOR, APPROVED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. YOU MAY HAVE TO
PAY A FEE FOR SUCH AN ARBITRATION. CONTACT YOUR LOCAL CONSUMER OFFICE OR
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT HOW TO ARRANGE FOR INDEPENDENT
ARBITRATION.

(3) All informal dispute settlement mechanisms shall maintain the
following records:

(i) the number of purchase price and lease price refunds and vehicle
replacements requested, the number of each awarded in arbitration, the
amount of each award and the number of awards that were complied with in a
timely manner;

(ii) the number of awards where additional repairs or a warranty
extension was the most prominent remedy, the amount or value of each award,
and the number of such awards that were complied with in a timely manner;

(iii) the number and total dollar amount of awards where some form of
reimbursement for expenses or compensation for losses was the most prominent
remedy, the amount or value of each award and the number of such awards that
were complied with in a timely manner; and

(iv) the average number of days from the date of a consumer's initial
request to arbitrate until the date of the final arbitrator's decision and
the average number of days from the date of the final arbitrator's decision
to the date on which performance was satisfactorily carried out.

(n) Special provisions applicable to motor homes:

(1) To the extent that the provisions of this subdivision are inconsistent
with the other provisions of this section, the provisions of this
subdivision shall apply.

(2) For purposes of this section, the manufacturer of a motor home is any
person, partnership, corporation, factory branch, or other entity engaged in
the business of manufacturing or assembling new motor homes for sale in this
state.

(3) This section does not apply to nonconformities, defects or conditions
in motor home systems, fixtures, components, appliances, furnishings or
accessories that are residential in character.

(4) If, within the period specified in subdivision (b) of this section,
the manufacturer of a motor home or its agents or its authorized dealers or
repair shops to which they refer a customer are unable to repair or correct
any defect or condition which substantially impairs the value of the motor
home to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts, the motor home
manufacturer, at the option of the consumer, shall replace the motor home
with a comparable motor home, or accept return of the motor home from the
consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or, if
applicable, the lease price and any trade-in allowance plus fees and charges
as well as the other fees and charges set forth in paragraph one of
subdivision (c) of this section.

(5) If an agent or authorized dealer of a motor home manufacturer or a
repair shop to which they refer a consumer refuses to undertake repairs
within seven days of receipt of notice by a consumer of a nonconformity,
defect or condition pursuant to paragraph one of subdivision (b) of this
section, the consumer may immediately forward written notice of such refusal
to the motor home manufacturer by certified mail, return receipt requested.
The motor home manufacturer or its authorized agent or a repair shop to
which they refer a consumer shall have twenty days from receipt of such
notice of refusal to commence such repairs. If within such twenty-day
period, the motor home manufacturer or its authorized agent or repair shop
to which they refer a consumer, fails to commence such repairs, the motor
home manufacturer, at the option of the consumer, shall replace the motor
home with a comparable motor home, or accept return of the motor home from
the consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or, if
applicable, the lease price, and any trade-in allowance or other charges or
allowances as set forth in paragraph two of subdivision (b) of this section.

(6) If within the period specified in subdivision (b) of this section, the
same nonconformity, defect or condition in a motor home has been subject to
repair three times or a motor home has been out of service by reason of
repair for twenty-one days, whichever occurs first, the consumer must have
reported this to the motor home manufacturer or its authorized dealer by
certified mail, return receipt requested, prior to instituting any
proceeding or other action pursuant to this section provided, however, that
the special notification requirements of this paragraph shall only apply if
the manufacturer or its authorized dealer provides a prior written copy of
the requirements of this paragraph to the consumer and receipt of the notice
is acknowledged by the consumer in writing. If the consumer who has received
notice from the manufacturer fails to comply with the special notification
requirements of this paragraph, additional repair attempts or days out of
service by reason of repair shall not be taken into account in determining
whether the consumer is entitled to a remedy provided in paragraph four of
this subdivision. However, additional repair attempts or days out of service
by reason of repair that occur after the consumer complies with such special
notification requirements shall be taken into account in making that
determination.

(7) Nothing in this section shall in any way limit any rights, remedies or
causes of action that a consumer or motor home manufacturer may otherwise
have against the manufacturer of the motor home's chassis, or its propulsion
and other components.

(o) At the time of purchase or lease of a motor vehicle from an authorized
dealer in this state, the manufacturer shall provide to the dealer or
leaseholder, and the dealer or leaseholder shall provide to the consumer a
notice, printed in not less than eight point bold face type, entitled "New
Car Lemon Law Bill of Rights". The text of such notice shall be identical
with the notice required by paragraph two of subdivision (m) of this
section.

Recalled yet again!

The Floodgates have opened!!!!

Reviewed by: franktimpson
Year: 2006
Model: kia sedona lx
Price Paid: $24000.00 at shortline kia in aur
Summary:
the crappiest van ever both front axles have been replaced and still has a
problem,airbag light comes on all the time, when accelerating the engine
redlines because of transmission slipping, problem after problem , i cant
take this anymore someone please help

Strengths:
none

Weaknesses:
everything

Similar Products Used:
dodge, ford

Reviewed by: Big B
Year: 2006
Model: Sedona/EX
Price Paid: $24500.00 at Lake Charles Kia

Summary:
We recently purchased a 2006 Kia Sedonna Minivan. It has to be the junkiest
vehicle ever made. It is only 5 months old and is falling apart. It has A/C
problems, shimmies, transmission shifts into neutral for no reason, drivers
seat is loose, dash pad blistered, turn signals do not turn off when
steering wheel is turned opposite direction. Dealer cannot fix problems
because computer does not code up. Has anybody else had any of these
problems? Maybe someone out there with these problems has had the dealer
find out what is wrong with the van, maybe we can all pull together and get
these things recalled. When you gas your van to merge into traffic on a busy
Interstate and it does not move and you have to swerve off the road to avoid
an acccident that is a dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strengths:
Atractive roomy vehicle, Supposed to be safe but never advertise it's
quality. My family has almost been ran over on 2 occassions because vehicle
is in drive but will not move when accelerator is depressed. Engine redlines
like engine in neutral, but is in drive.

Weaknesses:
Vehicle has been in shop over a dozen times, everytime one thing gets fixed
something else breaks

Looks like a Major recall issue
by Jude from Ohio (7/15/06)

10 out of 13 people found this review helpful
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Comfort
Performance
Value

Pros: sliding doors go downand better fuel milage
Cons: Possible recall issue

Sedona hits 65 to 75 mph and the steering wheel developes a severe rocking
and shaking issue. Kia has replaced the front axel, checked the tires and
balance. They have no idea whats causing the problem nor how to correct it.
350 miles on my new sedona and Im in a rental car because they cant fix it.
The dealer has 4 other sedonas in his shop with the same issue.

Junkiest vehicle ever made, Don't Buy!!
by Brian from Central Louisiana (8/27/06)

7 out of 11 people found this review helpful
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Comfort
Performance
Value

Pros: We puchased the van because of it's roominess and looks, dont be
fooled it is yellow underneath
Cons: nothing but problems, afraid to drive because of transmission
almost ran over once!

We recently purchased a 2006 Kia Sedonna Minivan. It has to be the junkiest
vehicle ever made. It is only 5 months old and is falling apart. It has A/C
problems, shimmies, transmission shifts into neutral for no reason, drivers
seat is loose, dash pad blistered, turn signals do not turn off when
steering wheel is turned opposite direction, door latches are becoming hard
to operate and side doors hard to close. Have '99 Caravan that works like
silk even now. Dealer cannot fix problems because computer does not code up.
Has been in shop at least 12 times. We fix one thing and something else
breaks. Has anybody else had any of these problems? Maybe someone out there
with these problems has had the dealer find out what is wrong with the van,
maybe we can all pull together and get these things recalled. When you gas
your van to merge into traffic on a busy Interstate and it does not move and
you have to swerve off the road to avoid an acccident that is a
dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anybody else out there with problems need help to
rid of this junk!!!

DO NOT BUY THIS CAR
by bkryz from Oxford, CT (9/14/06)

2 out of 3 people found this review helpful
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Comfort
Performance
Value

Pros: great warranty, looks good, a lot for the money
Cons: BRAKES BRAKES BRAKES-----

We have had major break problems with this car. Kia just bought it back from
us via the lemon law. Our breaks were down to 5%, on 5 occasions over a
years period. Not good when you have a child. Dont let the warranty fool you
or 5 star crash rating-what good is either when your brakes dont work. This
is a known issue on 2005-2006 models and they are still trying to work on a
solution.

Go buy a Town & Country and dont get caught in the hype-its cheap for a
reason and we figured that out the hard way. I cannot believe this is rated
at the top!

Not happy at all
by Linda Kohler from Surprise, AZ 85374 (10/12/06)

0 out of 0 people found this review helpful
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Appearance
Comfort
Performance
Value

Pros: nice looking van
Cons: only getting 16,5 miles city or highway, horrible dealership-
Peoria Kia, Peoria, AZ

Not happy at all with the total package. Very bad gas mileage and dealership
is horrible to work with. i have had this van in on three seperate occasions
and feel that nothing improved or was change from their repairs.