"Jeff" wrote
| I don't see where Thom "took credit" for inventing it. Actually, the
| details of it are different from anything I've seen, but sure, the
| general approach is pretty common.

Thom said "I blessed King Neptune for giving me the idea." And he said "My solution. Yours to take or leave."
It sounded to me like he was taking credit for inventing it. What did you think?

| Do you have a point, or do you like to make a fool of yourself?

I don't have a *point*. I was just saying what he's talking about is nothing new. He acts like it's something new.
That's all. Should I treat him like some feeble old codger like most of you here do? Or should I treat him like the
rest of you? Which is more fair? Which is showing him greater respect?


Cheers,
Ellen

"Scout" wrote
| For some reason they extended the back stay attachment. I guess it keeps the
| stay out of the path of the mainsail. My Starwind's mainsail would get hung
| up in the backstay from time to time. Maybe this is their answer to the same
| problem?

OK. It sounds right. I guess it's stronger than it looks from underneath.

Cheers,
Ellen

Nice going Scout,

How much of a job is it? When I had the "Venture" on the trailer,
raising & setting the main, Launching the boat and securing it to the
slip, driving the car and trailer to the parking lot, Hooking up the
Boom and setting the sails up; I was ready for a nap rather than a sail.

That would all change the minute the sails started :drawing and the
motor was shut off. It did get to be a PITA though, an the slip was a
welcome addition.

Looks good Scout. Happy Sails!!


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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
| I don't see where Thom "took credit" for inventing it. Actually, the
| details of it are different from anything I've seen, but sure, the
| general approach is pretty common.

Thom said "I blessed King Neptune for giving me the idea." And he said "My solution. Yours to take or leave."
It sounded to me like he was taking credit for inventing it. What did you think?

I think you are, at best, misinterpreting his comments.


| Do you have a point, or do you like to make a fool of yourself?

I don't have a *point*. I was just saying what he's talking about is nothing new. He acts like it's something new.
That's all.

Nowhere does he claim he was the first one to do it. There are
numerous small items that we all have stumbled upon independently -
should we be doing a patent search before using them?

Should I treat him like some feeble old codger like most of you here do? Or should I treat him like the
rest of you? Which is more fair? Which is showing him greater respect?

You should treat yourself with more respect. Acting like an ass is
bad for your self-esteem in the long run.

Bart wrote:
Describe one rigging change you made to your boat that
made you life easier. [1 pt]

I installed one line reefing systems for the main and mizzen. Guess
they just tied thru the reefing points before. Just rigged up a single
line with side mounted blocks, one for both points on the mizzen.. and
3 on the main. Makes reefing down quick and easy.

Joe

Jeff,

I copied it from my previous boat which I Liked and it was in place when
I brought it. I think if you walk though any Marina with you're eyes
open you'll see it very often, I DID NOT INVENT IT!!! I just adapted to
"Pneuma"

I also set up a Cruising Vang/Preventer with lines from the Boom to
Blocks on my Port & Star'Bd toe rails forward of the main and then back
to cleats at the helm. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

I also Rigged a Cunningham Hook, just forward of my forward Hatch so
that I could "Barbar Haul" the Lazy Sheets on the Jibs, when they were
Poled Out. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

There are many things I've adapted that I've seen, read about, heard
about to make sailing easier and more fun that I didn't INVENT. I don't
think there is a active PATENT on them. I have use them. Not everyone
does. I'm very thankful for the ideas when they make life easier for me.
When they work out I do try to pass them on.

An old sailor passing on old ideas isn't a new Idea. Not at all
-------AND


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Thom Stewart wrote:
Jeff,

I copied it from my previous boat which I Liked and it was in place when
I brought it. I think if you walk though any Marina with you're eyes
open you'll see it very often, I DID NOT INVENT IT!!! I just adapted to
"Pneuma"

Yes, of course. My old Nonsuch had such a rig. I even remember when
I first saw the trick, I thought "I wish I had come up with that!"

I learned to program computer in the early days - my first program was
in 1963 - and there must have been dozens of tricks that every
programmer independently invented. I remember having to tell my
partner that he was not the first person to use a "stack" and a
"linked list."



I also set up a Cruising Vang/Preventer with lines from the Boom to
Blocks on my Port & Star'Bd toe rails forward of the main and then back
to cleats at the helm. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

I also Rigged a Cunningham Hook, just forward of my forward Hatch so
that I could "Barbar Haul" the Lazy Sheets on the Jibs, when they were
Poled Out. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

There are many things I've adapted that I've seen, read about, heard
about to make sailing easier and more fun that I didn't INVENT. I don't
think there is a active PATENT on them. I have use them. Not everyone
does. I'm very thankful for the ideas when they make life easier for me.
When they work out I do try to pass them on.

An old sailor passing on old ideas isn't a new Idea. Not at all
-------AND


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

Have another on me!

In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
Jon,

There is another option. I terminated my wire about 3 foot above my Boom
with a metal eye and compression fitting; then a added a block at the
end, a 1/4" spectra line spliced to the end of boom, up thru the block
on the modified top lift and back to the boom. I had a 1/4" hole on the
boom end, which I inserted a Pin with a compression ball and ring in the
other end. I left enough line so that when it was loose it didn't
interfere with the sail and when it was adjusted I'd figure 8 it and set
it in place with a half hitch.

It made all the adjustments a snap and very easy on the hands, I blessed
King Neptune for giving me the idea; each time I'd Adjust the Boom for
light air and get the Baggy sail that I wanted.

The original purpose was to hold the boom while I reset the Lazy Jacks.
It did that perfectly. It also held the boom while I eased the Jacks to
put the sail cove on. Also, with the extra line I could tie off the
covered sail & boom outboard off the cockpit to let the Northwest rain
drain off to the outboard scuppers. It did keep the Cockpit and Deck
cleaner.

My solution. Yours to take or leave.

Excellent suggestions, but I'm getting a Dutchman installed.... this
is what they recommended.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

In article ,
Scout wrote:
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
freenews.net...

"Scout" wrote
| the mast, she is raised!
| http://sports.webshots.com/photo/281...97509592kFvzbv


What's that skinny thing on the back of the mast on top? How come the
stay doesn't
bend it down? It looks like it's connected right on the very end of
it.....

For some reason they extended the back stay attachment. I guess it keeps the
stay out of the path of the mainsail. My Starwind's mainsail would get hung
up in the backstay from time to time. Maybe this is their answer to the same
problem?
Scout

You've got to admit that it does look a bit strange.


--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote
| For some reason they extended the back stay attachment. I guess it keeps
the
| stay out of the path of the mainsail. My Starwind's mainsail would get
hung
| up in the backstay from time to time. Maybe this is their answer to the
same
| problem?

OK. It sounds right. I guess it's stronger than it looks from
underneath.

Cheers,
Ellen

I sure hope so. One thing is for sure, if it's gonna break, I'm the guy to
break it!
Scout