Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Thom Stewart" wrote
| There is another option. I terminated my wire about 3 foot above my Boom
| with a metal eye and compression fitting; then a added a block at the
| end, a 1/4" spectra line spliced to the end of boom, up thru the block
| on the modified top lift and back to the boom. I had a 1/4" hole on the
| boom end, which I inserted a Pin with a compression ball and ring in the
| other end. I left enough line so that when it was loose it didn't
| interfere with the sail and when it was adjusted I'd figure 8 it and set
| it in place with a half hitch.


Hee hee! Your taking credit for inventing something that's been used for years and years?
Well, OK. Whatever floats your boat.... But my little Tangerine has the same thing on the topping
lift. It makes it simple. You don't have an extra line running up and down the mast. Duh!

Cheers,
Ellen

I don't see where Thom "took credit" for inventing it. Actually, the
details of it are different from anything I've seen, but sure, the
general approach is pretty common.

Do you have a point, or do you like to make a fool of yourself?

"Jeff" wrote
| I don't see where Thom "took credit" for inventing it. Actually, the
| details of it are different from anything I've seen, but sure, the
| general approach is pretty common.

Thom said "I blessed King Neptune for giving me the idea." And he said "My solution. Yours to take or leave."
It sounded to me like he was taking credit for inventing it. What did you think?

| Do you have a point, or do you like to make a fool of yourself?

I don't have a *point*. I was just saying what he's talking about is nothing new. He acts like it's something new.
That's all. Should I treat him like some feeble old codger like most of you here do? Or should I treat him like the
rest of you? Which is more fair? Which is showing him greater respect?


Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
| I don't see where Thom "took credit" for inventing it. Actually, the
| details of it are different from anything I've seen, but sure, the
| general approach is pretty common.

Thom said "I blessed King Neptune for giving me the idea." And he said "My solution. Yours to take or leave."
It sounded to me like he was taking credit for inventing it. What did you think?

I think you are, at best, misinterpreting his comments.


| Do you have a point, or do you like to make a fool of yourself?

I don't have a *point*. I was just saying what he's talking about is nothing new. He acts like it's something new.
That's all.

Nowhere does he claim he was the first one to do it. There are
numerous small items that we all have stumbled upon independently -
should we be doing a patent search before using them?

Should I treat him like some feeble old codger like most of you here do? Or should I treat him like the
rest of you? Which is more fair? Which is showing him greater respect?

You should treat yourself with more respect. Acting like an ass is
bad for your self-esteem in the long run.

Jeff,

I copied it from my previous boat which I Liked and it was in place when
I brought it. I think if you walk though any Marina with you're eyes
open you'll see it very often, I DID NOT INVENT IT!!! I just adapted to
"Pneuma"

I also set up a Cruising Vang/Preventer with lines from the Boom to
Blocks on my Port & Star'Bd toe rails forward of the main and then back
to cleats at the helm. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

I also Rigged a Cunningham Hook, just forward of my forward Hatch so
that I could "Barbar Haul" the Lazy Sheets on the Jibs, when they were
Poled Out. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

There are many things I've adapted that I've seen, read about, heard
about to make sailing easier and more fun that I didn't INVENT. I don't
think there is a active PATENT on them. I have use them. Not everyone
does. I'm very thankful for the ideas when they make life easier for me.
When they work out I do try to pass them on.

An old sailor passing on old ideas isn't a new Idea. Not at all
-------AND


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jeff,

I copied it from my previous boat which I Liked and it was in place when
I brought it. I think if you walk though any Marina with you're eyes
open you'll see it very often, I DID NOT INVENT IT!!! I just adapted to
"Pneuma"

Yes, of course. My old Nonsuch had such a rig. I even remember when
I first saw the trick, I thought "I wish I had come up with that!"

I learned to program computer in the early days - my first program was
in 1963 - and there must have been dozens of tricks that every
programmer independently invented. I remember having to tell my
partner that he was not the first person to use a "stack" and a
"linked list."



I also set up a Cruising Vang/Preventer with lines from the Boom to
Blocks on my Port & Star'Bd toe rails forward of the main and then back
to cleats at the helm. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

I also Rigged a Cunningham Hook, just forward of my forward Hatch so
that I could "Barbar Haul" the Lazy Sheets on the Jibs, when they were
Poled Out. This also I DID NOT INVENT!!!

There are many things I've adapted that I've seen, read about, heard
about to make sailing easier and more fun that I didn't INVENT. I don't
think there is a active PATENT on them. I have use them. Not everyone
does. I'm very thankful for the ideas when they make life easier for me.
When they work out I do try to pass them on.

An old sailor passing on old ideas isn't a new Idea. Not at all
-------AND


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

Have another on me!