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Scout October 6th 06 12:32 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 
Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the concept of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the wing and mechanical flight?
Scout

Scout October 6th 06 01:30 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 
OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:32:39 -0400, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the concept
of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the wing and
mechanical flight?
Scout


No.


You make some excellent points.
Scout



katy October 6th 06 01:36 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 
Scout wrote:
OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:32:39 -0400, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the concept
of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the wing and
mechanical flight?
Scout

No.


You make some excellent points.
Scout


He's so succinct in his answers....

Scout October 6th 06 01:38 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:32:39 -0400, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the
concept of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the
wing and mechanical flight?
Scout
No.


You make some excellent points.
Scout

He's so succinct in his answers....


I think it I read it in a Matt Collie discussion, but I can't seem to find
it and I can't remember if this was Matt's position or someone else's. If
you're out there Matt . . .
Scout



katy October 6th 06 01:43 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:32:39 -0400, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the
concept of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the
wing and mechanical flight?
Scout
No.
You make some excellent points.
Scout

He's so succinct in his answers....


I think it I read it in a Matt Collie discussion, but I can't seem to find
it and I can't remember if this was Matt's position or someone else's. If
you're out there Matt . . .
Scout


People sailed to wind before the wing....s;oops have been around for
awhile...and didn't schooners sail to wind? I know that aquare riggers,
etc. were inefficient going to wind. Bet Bart knows the answer.

Scout October 6th 06 01:43 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:32:39 -0400, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the
concept of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of
the wing and mechanical flight?
Scout
No.
You make some excellent points.
Scout
He's so succinct in his answers....


I think it I read it in a Matt Collie discussion, but I can't seem to
find it and I can't remember if this was Matt's position or someone
else's. If you're out there Matt . . .
Scout


People sailed to wind before the wing....s;oops have been around for
awhile...and didn't schooners sail to wind? I know that aquare riggers,
etc. were inefficient going to wind. Bet Bart knows the answer.


Ok, I just hope it's not "no" - lol
Scout



Gilligan October 6th 06 02:09 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 

"Scout" wrote in message ...
Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the concept of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the wing and mechanical flight?
Scout


Right you are Scout. The first heavy lift gliders came about before 1800. You can see that the technology existed in planes before it got around to sailboats.

http://www.first-to-fly.com/History/...e/firstair.htm

Most of the people here are not knowledgeable in the ways of science. It was once said that science was too important to be left for the scientists. But laymen have neither the training or the inclination for scientific thought. I will no longer sit back and allow non science opinion, non science indoctrination and the international non science conspiracy to sap and irrationalize our precious scientific thought. Have you ever seen a non scientist drink water? Distilled, pure, ion free water? That's right, your typical non scientist does not drink pure distilled water. Their precious bodily fluids are impure and their capacity for scientific thought is impaired. This all became apparent to me during the act of calculating. I assure you my scientific essence remains pure, though I deny non scientists the benefits of my calculations.

Gilligan October 6th 06 02:51 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 

OzOne wrote in message ...

I think you may be overlooking the dhow with it's lateen rigs from
some 2000 years ago.


You may be overlooking the fact the had no keel and sailed at best with the
wind abeam, not into the wind. Show me proof.



Joe October 6th 06 02:58 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 

OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:09:13 -0600, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:


"Scout" wrote in message ...
Read that somewhere recently.
I knew downwind sailing was "it" for a very long time, but did the concept of sailing to wind really come about with the evolution of the wing and mechanical flight?
Scout


Right you are Scout. The first heavy lift gliders came about before 1800. You can see that the technology existed in planes before it got around to sailboats.

http://www.first-to-fly.com/History/...e/firstair.htm

Most of the people here are not knowledgeable in the ways of science. It was once said that science was too important to be left for the scientists. But laymen have neither the training or the inclination for scientific thought. I will no longer sit back and allow non science opinion, non science indoctrination and the international non science conspiracy to sap and irrationalize our precious scientific thought. Have you ever seen a non scientist drink water? Distilled, pure, ion free water? That's right, your typical non scientist does not drink pure distilled water. Their precious bodily fluids are impure and their capacity for scientific thought is impaired. This all became apparent to me during the act of calculating. I assure you my scientific essence remains pure, though I deny non scientists the benefits of my calculations.




For all your bluff blunder and bull****,


I think you may be overlooking the dhow with it's lateen rigs from
some 2000 years ago.


The ones sailing the Nile?

Joe


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Gilligan October 6th 06 03:15 AM

modern sails spun off mechanical flight technology?
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...


I think you may be overlooking the dhow with it's lateen rigs from
some 2000 years ago.


The ones sailing the Nile?


Yes, just like the Egyptian gliders of the time:

http://www.catchpenny.org/model.html

http://www.huge-entity.com/2005/10/a...g-machine.html

The development of the glider lead to sailboats sailing into the wind.

Crickey!




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