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Martin Baxter October 4th 06 06:24 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
katy wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
? "Jim K." wrote:
??
?? ??...eagles fan?
??
?? ? Yup!
??
?? cool - It's so important we beat Dallas this week - especially since we
?? habded the win to the giants.
?
? Whoa, hold on there! Now you're 'dissin America's Team! Fie on you,
? "Guard thy head well, for ere long...."
?
? Cheers
? Marty
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Marty...you're Canadian...you're not supposed to know anything about
mercan football....


It's the only decent kind, ever watch CFL? Boring game, only 3 downs, so
not as many first downs get made, a lot of work around mid-field. Run
once, pass once, punt... repeat as necessary. Besides all the good
players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it in the NFL, nuff
said?

Cheers
Marty

katy October 4th 06 06:46 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
? "Jim K." wrote:
??
?? ??...eagles fan?
??
?? ? Yup!
??
?? cool - It's so important we beat Dallas this week - especially since we
?? habded the win to the giants.
?
? Whoa, hold on there! Now you're 'dissin America's Team! Fie on you,
? "Guard thy head well, for ere long...."
?
? Cheers
? Marty
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Marty...you're Canadian...you're not supposed to know anything about
mercan football....


It's the only decent kind, ever watch CFL? Boring game, only 3 downs, so
not as many first downs get made, a lot of work around mid-field. Run
once, pass once, punt... repeat as necessary. Besides all the good
players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it in the NFL, nuff
said?

Cheers
Marty



There's a;ways soccer or rugby....

Capt. JG October 4th 06 07:19 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
I haven't tried it yet, but that's what I have on my boat.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dry" wrote in message
...
Scout I replaces my old pressurized alcohol stove with one of these and
has worked wonders. ORIGO 4100 DOUBLE BURNER STOVE - DROP-IN Have a
look here http://www.interconmktg.com/pages_stoves/4100.htm


Scout wrote:

I've been keeping up with the Force5 discussion. But, I was wondering
what you folks would do for a cooking appliance, given the space and
layout I have.

Here's the counterspace I have to work with.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/277...97509592aoEcBp

TIA
Scout





Martin Baxter October 4th 06 07:21 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
katy wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
?
? It's the only decent kind, ever watch CFL? Boring game, only 3 downs, so
? not as many first downs get made, a lot of work around mid-field. Run
? once, pass once, punt... repeat as necessary. Besides all the good
? players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it in the NFL, nuff
? said?
?
? Cheers
? Marty

There's a;ways soccer or rugby....



Tue enough, but the the cheerleaders aren't so nice. ;-o


Ever see CFL cheerleaders at the Grey Cup in a snowstorm? Girls in
parkas looking like giant Pez dispensers just doesn't cut it.

Cheers
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Thom Stewart October 4th 06 07:59 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Jim,

You ask a question and get a reply that isn't what you wanted to hear
isn't being mad. Your reaction is very wrong.

I has to agree with Katy; your reaction to the truth definitely needs
improvement. I do believe that is all that she meant by getting
"Calluses!" As in developing a "thickening of your skin" so to speak.

If you're going to hang around this group and express dumb opinions, you
are going to get rather sharp replies. Get use to it or take off! We
won't change for you, Your obligation to change. That is if you want to
be accepted. We don't run people off;---- we just ignore them. As I'm
about to do with you.

Ole Thom


katy October 4th 06 08:21 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
?
? It's the only decent kind, ever watch CFL? Boring game, only 3 downs, so
? not as many first downs get made, a lot of work around mid-field. Run
? once, pass once, punt... repeat as necessary. Besides all the good
? players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it in the NFL, nuff
? said?
?
? Cheers
? Marty

There's a;ways soccer or rugby....



Tue enough, but the the cheerleaders aren't so nice. ;-o


Ever see CFL cheerleaders at the Grey Cup in a snowstorm? Girls in
parkas looking like giant Pez dispensers just doesn't cut it.

Cheers
Marty
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Newfie cheerleaders..now there's a thought....

Scout October 4th 06 09:51 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Thanks JG and Dry - for some reason, I never go Dry's OP. Very strange.
Anyway, a very interesting way to go and one I will give serious
consideration to!
Scout


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I haven't tried it yet, but that's what I have on my boat.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dry" wrote in message
...
Scout I replaces my old pressurized alcohol stove with one of these and
has worked wonders. ORIGO 4100 DOUBLE BURNER STOVE - DROP-IN Have a
look here http://www.interconmktg.com/pages_stoves/4100.htm


Scout wrote:

I've been keeping up with the Force5 discussion. But, I was wondering
what you folks would do for a cooking appliance, given the space and
layout I have.

Here's the counterspace I have to work with.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/277...97509592aoEcBp

TIA
Scout







Scotty October 5th 06 12:51 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Canadian football is on par with women's basketball.

Scotty


"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
katy wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
? "Jim K." wrote:
??
?? ??...eagles fan?
??
?? ? Yup!
??
?? cool - It's so important we beat Dallas this week -

especially since we
?? habded the win to the giants.
?
? Whoa, hold on there! Now you're 'dissin America's

Team! Fie on you,
? "Guard thy head well, for ere long...."
?
? Cheers
? Marty
? ------------ And now a word from our

sponsor ----------------------
? For a quality mail server, try SurgeMail, easy to

install,
? fast, efficient and reliable. Run a million users on

a standard
? PC running NT or Unix without running out of power,

use the best!
? ---- See

http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgemail.htm ----

Marty...you're Canadian...you're not supposed to know

anything about
mercan football....


It's the only decent kind, ever watch CFL? Boring game,

only 3 downs, so
not as many first downs get made, a lot of work around

mid-field. Run
once, pass once, punt... repeat as necessary. Besides

all the good
players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it in

the NFL, nuff
said?

Cheers
Marty




Scotty October 5th 06 01:07 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 

"Jim K." wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey - I truly apologize if I'm out of line - and if I am -

"I'm Sorry"
- but what's katy's problem? in person people have

manners. She seems
to think that on the web it's okay to be rude. I disagree.



Rude? that wasn't rude! You want rude, here's rude, Jim,
you are a stupid dickhead and should stay far away from any
boat as you are sure to be a hazard to the rest of us. Now,
**** OFF !


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Scotty October 5th 06 01:19 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 

"Scout" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
I've been keeping up with the Force5 discussion. But, I

was wondering
what you folks would do for a cooking appliance, given the

space and
layout I have.

Here's the counterspace I have to work with.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/277...97509592aoEcBp



Hey Scout, sure was nice out this week. Do you have, or
plan to get a BBQ? Like a rail mount Force 10, or Magma for
the stern rail? I have a propane one and do about 90% of my
cooking on it. Highly recommend getting one.
I have a CNG, 2 burner stove and oven. Never used the oven.
Mostly use the stove for coffee, occasional cooked breakfast
or a bowl of soup at night. I carry a one burner Coleman
propane stove just in case I run out of CNG on a trip.
I store the bottles in the cabin. My slip neighbor mounted a
PVC pipe with glued bottom cap and loose top cap on his
stern rail and it holds two bottles.


Scotty



Jeff October 5th 06 01:32 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Scout-
I was going to suggest the same thing. We used our old BBQ a lot, and
this year I got the Magma II. Its a major improvement, with the
hinged lid and lighter. Also, it never once blew out. In fact, it
was flawless.

The old one was plumbed to the main propane, but I didn't bother with
this so far - it too easy to just use the small bottles.

The stove below does get used; since we sort of move on board for the
summer, and always stay at anchor, so its hard to do a quick b'fast
run. Coffee, eggs, & toast down below in the morning, but dinner is
on the BBQ.

BTW, I don't mind having the propane on board - our tank locker is in
the stern, well ventilated, and the solenoid is always turned off
immediately. However, if we had simpler needs, I might consider the
Origo.

Scotty wrote:

Hey Scout, sure was nice out this week. Do you have, or
plan to get a BBQ? Like a rail mount Force 10, or Magma for
the stern rail? I have a propane one and do about 90% of my
cooking on it. Highly recommend getting one.
I have a CNG, 2 burner stove and oven. Never used the oven.
Mostly use the stove for coffee, occasional cooked breakfast
or a bowl of soup at night. I carry a one burner Coleman
propane stove just in case I run out of CNG on a trip.
I store the bottles in the cabin. My slip neighbor mounted a
PVC pipe with glued bottom cap and loose top cap on his
stern rail and it holds two bottles.


Scotty



Scotty October 5th 06 02:12 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 19:51:01 -0400, "Scotty"

said:

Canadian football is on par with women's basketball.


You mean the 6 to a team kind, with offense and defense of

each side on
separate halves of the court, and no more than 2 dribbles,

or the 5 to a
team kind the more closely resembles men's b'ball?


ha ha, the first time my wife told me she used to be a
''rover'' on her basketball team, I was flabbergasted..

SBV



katy October 5th 06 03:11 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Scotty wrote:
Canadian football is on par with women's basketball.

Scotty


"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
katy wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
? "Jim K." wrote:
??
?? ??...eagles fan?
??
?? ? Yup!
??
?? cool - It's so important we beat Dallas this week -

especially since we
?? habded the win to the giants.
?
? Whoa, hold on there! Now you're 'dissin America's

Team! Fie on you,
? "Guard thy head well, for ere long...."
?
? Cheers
? Marty
? ------------ And now a word from our

sponsor ----------------------
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install,
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a standard
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Marty...you're Canadian...you're not supposed to know

anything about
mercan football....

It's the only decent kind, ever watch CFL? Boring game,

only 3 downs, so
not as many first downs get made, a lot of work around

mid-field. Run
once, pass once, punt... repeat as necessary. Besides

all the good
players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it in

the NFL, nuff
said?

Cheers
Marty



My granddaughter made 3 naskets in her game tonight..they won 26 to 6...

katy October 5th 06 03:13 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Scotty wrote:
"Jim K." wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey - I truly apologize if I'm out of line - and if I am -

"I'm Sorry"
- but what's katy's problem? in person people have

manners. She seems
to think that on the web it's okay to be rude. I disagree.



Rude? that wasn't rude! You want rude, here's rude, Jim,
you are a stupid dickhead and should stay far away from any
boat as you are sure to be a hazard to the rest of us. Now,
**** OFF !


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Gee Scotty..why'd you tone it down?

Scotty October 5th 06 03:31 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"Jim K." wrote in message

ups.com...
Hey - I truly apologize if I'm out of line - and if I

am -
"I'm Sorry"
- but what's katy's problem? in person people have

manners. She seems
to think that on the web it's okay to be rude. I

disagree.


Rude? that wasn't rude! You want rude, here's rude,

Jim,
you are a stupid dickhead and should stay far away from

any
boat as you are sure to be a hazard to the rest of us.

Now,
**** OFF !


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Gee Scotty..why'd you tone it down?


In case you read it.

S



Scotty October 5th 06 03:34 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
?
? Whoa, hold on there! Now you're 'dissin America's

Team! Fie on you,
players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it

in
the NFL, nuff
said?

Cheers
Marty



My granddaughter made 3 naskets in her game tonight..they

won 26 to 6...

good for her!





katy October 5th 06 04:45 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
?
? Whoa, hold on there! Now you're 'dissin America's
Team! Fie on you,
players go the US, we hire the guys who can't make it

in
the NFL, nuff
said?

Cheers
Marty

My granddaughter made 3 naskets in her game tonight..they

won 26 to 6...

good for her!




they're still playing the 6 girl rover tyope...junior high...the high
school girl's team plays 5 girl regular style...

Scout October 5th 06 08:33 AM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Thanks Jeff and Scotty,
I actually have the Magma I bought for my Starwind, so I will use a rail
grill. I like the idea of the pvc tank storage too.
I'm thinking I wouldn't use an oven below (like Scotty) but would make
mostly coffee and soup type meals. We typically don't eat too fancy even at
home. I'm considering a small microwave since the boat has the AC inverter.
Maybe with that and the grill, it'd be enough.
Scout


"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Scout-
I was going to suggest the same thing. We used our old BBQ a lot, and
this year I got the Magma II. Its a major improvement, with the hinged
lid and lighter. Also, it never once blew out. In fact, it was flawless.

The old one was plumbed to the main propane, but I didn't bother with this
so far - it too easy to just use the small bottles.

The stove below does get used; since we sort of move on board for the
summer, and always stay at anchor, so its hard to do a quick b'fast run.
Coffee, eggs, & toast down below in the morning, but dinner is on the BBQ.

BTW, I don't mind having the propane on board - our tank locker is in the
stern, well ventilated, and the solenoid is always turned off immediately.
However, if we had simpler needs, I might consider the Origo.

Scotty wrote:

Hey Scout, sure was nice out this week. Do you have, or
plan to get a BBQ? Like a rail mount Force 10, or Magma for
the stern rail? I have a propane one and do about 90% of my
cooking on it. Highly recommend getting one.
I have a CNG, 2 burner stove and oven. Never used the oven.
Mostly use the stove for coffee, occasional cooked breakfast
or a bowl of soup at night. I carry a one burner Coleman
propane stove just in case I run out of CNG on a trip.
I store the bottles in the cabin. My slip neighbor mounted a
PVC pipe with glued bottom cap and loose top cap on his
stern rail and it holds two bottles.


Scotty



Jim K. October 5th 06 01:38 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jim,

You ask a question and get a reply that isn't what you wanted to hear
isn't being mad. Your reaction is very wrong.

I has to agree with Katy; your reaction to the truth definitely needs
improvement. I do believe that is all that she meant by getting
"Calluses!" As in developing a "thickening of your skin" so to speak.



wo, wo, wo - I did express that I was wrong when I pointed it out - I
only mentioned the Coleman stove because Brad & DSK mentioned other
types of burners - but I admit that - but then here's katy's responses:

"...not used to USENET yet huh?..."

There's an insult that was totally unwarranted.

"...You're going to "shoot" up and down the coast in a vessel that at
best
will go 7 knots?"

What's with the "shoot" in quotations and why question my intention - I
just met a guy in a forum who is a photographer and lives aboard -
waiting to hear back from him about his bix - he's in Australia.

"... And grow some callous..."

And where did that come from? I read the posts previos to that - maybe
I missed it but I didn't see where I communicated in a terse way to a
response. So after those remarks, I responded in kind - how is that
wrong - really. I don't give a **** what anyone thinks of me - life's
too short - but am I supposed to be a pansy ass and allow someone to so
quickly shoot an insult my way - that's a pansy. So don't confuse thin
skin with someone who has balls enough to give it back. But Thom - I
really don't care - you're responses were respectful so you seem okay
to me - and if I was actually the one to say something inappropriate
first - Then "I am sorry."

But that's also usenet - there are so many nasty people in here or
peeps who feel that an insulting remark is okay - when is an insult
okay in a face-to-face social setting - NEVER?

'nuff said - if you are more prone to insults then to proper manners -
then you are insecure and an ass. It's just here peeps are never
face-to-face so insecure can get off on their bad side and not
experience any repurcussions.

To quote Cartman" "wha'eva"

To quote Jimi: "I am the one who has to die when it's time for me to
die, so let me live my life the way I want to - sing on brother, play
on trumpet."

If you're going to hang around this group and express dumb opinions, you
are going to get rather sharp replies. Get use to it or take off! We
won't change for you, Your obligation to change. That is if you want to
be accepted. We don't run people off;---- we just ignore them. As I'm
about to do with you.


Dude, I'm sorry to hear all that - just do one thing - show me where I
was the instigator and I will apologize - that's all - I swear to God -
I'm sorry if it was my fault - how many times do I have to say it - but
for crying out loud I'm not gonna let katy just spout out a quip
without firing back - how could you have respect for someone wwho
doesn't do that?

But it sounds like it doesn't matter - you - and I assume everyone else
- have made up your mind to ignore me - that's kind of extreme, but
whatever.

Jim


Jim K. October 5th 06 01:41 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 

Scotty wrote:
Rude? that wasn't rude! You want rude, here's rude, Jim,
you are a stupid dickhead and should stay far away from any
boat as you are sure to be a hazard to the rest of us. Now,
**** OFF !


WTF - why are you so hostile? What seems to be the problem? How did I
insult you? It seems like you are really emotional and easily upset.
And I'm not going anywhere.


Scotty October 5th 06 02:20 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
How big is your battery bank? Inverters take a lot of
juice, don't they. I think you'll still want some kind of
stove for the cabin, even if it's a one burner propane.
Handy when it's cold and/or raining outside. You'll already
have bottles along for the Magma. A lot of times when I
sail late into the night ( AM) and I'm too tired to 'cook'
I'll just warm up a can of soup before hitting the sack
But I guess if you have enough battery , a micro will do
those things easier and faster.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks Jeff and Scotty,
I actually have the Magma I bought for my Starwind, so I

will use a rail
grill. I like the idea of the pvc tank storage too.
I'm thinking I wouldn't use an oven below (like Scotty)

but would make
mostly coffee and soup type meals. We typically don't eat

too fancy even at
home. I'm considering a small microwave since the boat has

the AC inverter.
Maybe with that and the grill, it'd be enough.
Scout


"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Scout-
I was going to suggest the same thing. We used our old

BBQ a lot, and
this year I got the Magma II. Its a major improvement,

with the hinged
lid and lighter. Also, it never once blew out. In

fact, it was flawless.

The old one was plumbed to the main propane, but I

didn't bother with this
so far - it too easy to just use the small bottles.

The stove below does get used; since we sort of move on

board for the
summer, and always stay at anchor, so its hard to do a

quick b'fast run.
Coffee, eggs, & toast down below in the morning, but

dinner is on the BBQ.

BTW, I don't mind having the propane on board - our tank

locker is in the
stern, well ventilated, and the solenoid is always

turned off immediately.
However, if we had simpler needs, I might consider the

Origo.

Scotty wrote:

Hey Scout, sure was nice out this week. Do you have,

or
plan to get a BBQ? Like a rail mount Force 10, or

Magma for
the stern rail? I have a propane one and do about 90%

of my
cooking on it. Highly recommend getting one.
I have a CNG, 2 burner stove and oven. Never used the

oven.
Mostly use the stove for coffee, occasional cooked

breakfast
or a bowl of soup at night. I carry a one burner

Coleman
propane stove just in case I run out of CNG on a trip.
I store the bottles in the cabin. My slip neighbor

mounted a
PVC pipe with glued bottom cap and loose top cap on his
stern rail and it holds two bottles.


Scotty





Scotty October 5th 06 02:43 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Might be a good idea to coat the threads with grease or
something as long term outside storage may cause them to
rust a little. I'm just guessing.

Funny story, when my neighbor first made his, he didn't glue
the bottom cap ( why, He didn't say) , and the first bottle
he dropped in went right through into the water. :o

SBV


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks Jeff and Scotty,
I actually have the Magma I bought for my Starwind, so I

will use a rail
grill. I like the idea of the pvc tank storage too.
I'm thinking I wouldn't use an oven below (like Scotty)

but would make
mostly coffee and soup type meals. We typically don't eat

too fancy even at
home. I'm considering a small microwave since the boat has

the AC inverter.
Maybe with that and the grill, it'd be enough.
Scout


"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Scout-
I was going to suggest the same thing. We used our old

BBQ a lot, and
this year I got the Magma II. Its a major improvement,

with the hinged
lid and lighter. Also, it never once blew out. In

fact, it was flawless.

The old one was plumbed to the main propane, but I

didn't bother with this
so far - it too easy to just use the small bottles.

The stove below does get used; since we sort of move on

board for the
summer, and always stay at anchor, so its hard to do a

quick b'fast run.
Coffee, eggs, & toast down below in the morning, but

dinner is on the BBQ.

BTW, I don't mind having the propane on board - our tank

locker is in the
stern, well ventilated, and the solenoid is always

turned off immediately.
However, if we had simpler needs, I might consider the

Origo.

Scotty wrote:

Hey Scout, sure was nice out this week. Do you have,

or
plan to get a BBQ? Like a rail mount Force 10, or

Magma for
the stern rail? I have a propane one and do about 90%

of my
cooking on it. Highly recommend getting one.
I have a CNG, 2 burner stove and oven. Never used the

oven.
Mostly use the stove for coffee, occasional cooked

breakfast
or a bowl of soup at night. I carry a one burner

Coleman
propane stove just in case I run out of CNG on a trip.
I store the bottles in the cabin. My slip neighbor

mounted a
PVC pipe with glued bottom cap and loose top cap on his
stern rail and it holds two bottles.


Scotty





Scotty October 5th 06 02:50 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 

"Jim K." wrote in message
oups.com..
..


- when is an insult
okay in a face-to-face social setting - NEVER?


WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the Corp.
world.

SV





Jim K. October 5th 06 03:31 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 

Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?



Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the Corp.
world.



First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13 years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that - would you.

All that you're concerned is getting off on being a dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life. You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer guy.


Scotty October 5th 06 04:02 PM

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"Jim K." wrote in message
ps.com...

Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?



Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the

Corp.
world.



First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13 years

means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is

only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag that

****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to

bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like

you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low

integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -

would you.


I've had my own business for 31 years. You know nothing
about me.



Wife leave you


yes, but she'll be back , soon as school's out.

SV



katy October 5th 06 04:25 PM

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Jim K. wrote:
Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?



Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the Corp.
world.



First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13 years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that - would you.

All that you're concerned is getting off on being a dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life. You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

It;s rude to use crude language in a public forum...also to make ad
hominem attacks...you have a rather duplistic set of values, Jim.
You set yourself up as a target and then "bang", revert to attack. A
nice person would either laugh off Scotty's attack, turn the other
cheek, or try to discover just what it was that set the other off. Now,
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing. What other
questions do you have? Have you ever been sailing? On waht type of
boat? In what waters?

Scotty October 5th 06 04:39 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Jim K. wrote:
Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?



Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the

Corp.
world.



First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13

years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is

only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag

that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to

bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like

you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low

integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -

would you.

All that you're concerned is getting off on being a

dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life.

You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what

happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your

childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least

makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer

guy.

It;s rude to use crude language in a public forum...also

to make ad
hominem attacks...you have a rather duplistic set of

values, Jim.
You set yourself up as a target and then "bang", revert to

attack. A
nice person would either laugh off Scotty's attack, turn

the other
cheek, or try to discover just what it was that set the

other off. Now,
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.


OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.

Scotty





katy October 5th 06 04:45 PM

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Jim K. wrote:
Scotty wrote:
WTF? You've *never* insulted someone face-to-face?

Yes - rarely but when someone had it coming.

You *are* a pansy, no wonder you can't cut it in the

Corp.
world.

First - you're such a dickhead - and working for 13

years means I can't
cut it, huh? You're a genius aren't you? And there's is

only one way to
climb the corporate ladder - you have to be a scumbag

that ****s over
your co-workers - thaat's not for me, but I'm willing to

bet that's
right up your alley. And since I work with people like

you - I want to
get out so that I don't get infected with the same low

integrity and
morality. But you wouldn't know anything about that -

would you.
All that you're concerned is getting off on being a

dick -0 and I'm
sure you're that way in person with people in your life.

You need to
relax 'cause you aew way too uptight. Man - what

happened - who hurt
you? Wife leave you or does it go back to your

childhood. You're a
nightmare with some serious issues - and that at least

makes me smile -
knowing that you're a mess - couldn't happen to a nicer

guy.
It;s rude to use crude language in a public forum...also

to make ad
hominem attacks...you have a rather duplistic set of

values, Jim.
You set yourself up as a target and then "bang", revert to

attack. A
nice person would either laugh off Scotty's attack, turn

the other
cheek, or try to discover just what it was that set the

other off. Now,
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.


OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.

Scotty




Makes for a flatter sail...in more ways than one...I leave all the VMG
discussion to the guys stewing in their mathematical hazes...it's not
necessary for just sailing around...I like to tweak sails to get more
out of them and to get a higher point, but making sailing into a physics
or math problem just doesn't interest me...I'm sure that some would be
aghast at this but hey, I sail because I like to sail...it's more a
visceral thing for me than some problem to be solved. Got enough
problems to solve in real life without looking for them while sailing.

Scotty October 5th 06 05:02 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.


OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that

helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far

forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or

not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.

Scotty




Makes for a flatter sail...in more ways than one...I leave

all the VMG
discussion to the guys stewing in their mathematical

hazes...it's not
necessary for just sailing around...



yes but, I 'm usually sailing to a destination, not just
daysailing, going nowhere for an hour .





Capt. Rob October 5th 06 05:05 PM

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yes but, I 'm usually sailing to a destination, not just
daysailing, going nowhere for an hour .



Wherever Scotty is...that's nowhere.
In fact he was born there...and will die there.


RB
35s5
NY


katy October 5th 06 05:11 PM

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.
OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that

helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far

forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or

not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.

Scotty




Makes for a flatter sail...in more ways than one...I leave

all the VMG
discussion to the guys stewing in their mathematical

hazes...it's not
necessary for just sailing around...



yes but, I 'm usually sailing to a destination, not just
daysailing, going nowhere for an hour .




We go places, too, and use dead reckoning, our charts, GPS, etc. Using
simple trig is good enough for me. We're never in that much of a hurry
that we go to those lengths...if we are trying to make a destination and
have a timeline, we use a simple rule...if our speed sailing goes below
4 knots, we turn on the Iron Jenny and either motor sail or run on
engie=ne alone depending on direction and seas...
I hear the gasps already...the reason is, though, taht when you have
limited time, you make use of whatever you have to ,ake that time
worthwhile. This summer we will be able to sail all summer without any
hindrances. Mr Sails doesn't have to take any classes and doesn't think
he's signing up to teach summer school...we'll get to explore a lot of
territory and have the time to do it.

Martin Baxter October 5th 06 05:14 PM

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"Jim K." wrote:

And I'm not going anywhere.



Good for you Jim! See, your skin is already thickening up, soon you'll
be elligible for your eyepatch and parrot!


Arrrrr Billy have you ever been buggered at sea?

No Capt. Buttgrinder, but I've been blown ashore.

Cheers
Marty

Martin Baxter October 5th 06 05:19 PM

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Scotty wrote:

? why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.

OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.


WTF? How dare attempt get a derailed thread back on the tracks? Now cut
out this sailing talk! ;-o


Cheers
Marty

katy October 5th 06 05:45 PM

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Martin Baxter wrote:
"Jim K." wrote:
And I'm not going anywhere.



Good for you Jim! See, your skin is already thickening up, soon you'll
be elligible for your eyepatch and parrot!


Arrrrr Billy have you ever been buggered at sea?

No Capt. Buttgrinder, but I've been blown ashore.

Cheers
Marty

Don't think he'll ever earn "Putzdom" though....

katy October 5th 06 05:46 PM

suggestions for a stove?
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
Scotty wrote:
? why don't we all just go back to discussing sailing.

OK. This week a friend pointed out some things that helped
my boat to sail better. I had the jib leads too far forward
, and by heading up farther than I normally do, the boat
leveled off better. Don't know if my VMG was better or not,
but the ride was a lot smoother, with a lot less weather
helm.


WTF? How dare attempt get a derailed thread back on the tracks? Now cut
out this sailing talk! ;-o


Cheers
Marty


hrh...it worked, didn't it?

Scotty October 5th 06 05:58 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
u have to ,ake that time
worthwhile. This summer we will be able to sail all

summer without any
hindrances. Mr Sails doesn't have to take any classes and

doesn't think
he's signing up to teach summer school...we'll get to

explore a lot of
territory and have the time to do it.


That sounds nice! Are you coming up to the Bay anytime?

Scotty



Martin Baxter October 5th 06 06:21 PM

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katy wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
"Jim K." wrote:
And I'm not going anywhere.



Good for you Jim! See, your skin is already thickening up, soon you'll
be elligible for your eyepatch and parrot!


Arrrrr Billy have you ever been buggered at sea?

No Capt. Buttgrinder, but I've been blown ashore.

Cheers
Marty

Don't think he'll ever earn "Putzdom" though....


You never know, if Donal could get his Putzship.......

Cheers
Marty
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katy October 5th 06 06:56 PM

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
u have to ,ake that time
worthwhile. This summer we will be able to sail all

summer without any
hindrances. Mr Sails doesn't have to take any classes and

doesn't think
he's signing up to teach summer school...we'll get to

explore a lot of
territory and have the time to do it.


That sounds nice! Are you coming up to the Bay anytime?

Scotty


We might move the boat up to Hampton Raods next summer from NC...have to
see...the drive every weekend is pretty grueling...if so, we'll be doing
that long trip but will only go as far as the York...on the way we have
Pamlico and the Abermerle to explore...

katy October 5th 06 06:57 PM

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Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
"Jim K." wrote:
And I'm not going anywhere.

Good for you Jim! See, your skin is already thickening up, soon you'll
be elligible for your eyepatch and parrot!


Arrrrr Billy have you ever been buggered at sea?

No Capt. Buttgrinder, but I've been blown ashore.

Cheers
Marty

Don't think he'll ever earn "Putzdom" though....


You never know, if Donal could get his Putzship.......

Cheers
Marty
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Oh, Dona;
s a Putz alright....it just only comes out on rare occasions...BTW,
where the heck is he?

Martin Baxter October 5th 06 07:16 PM

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katy wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
"Jim K." wrote:
And I'm not going anywhere.

Good for you Jim! See, your skin is already thickening up, soon you'll
be elligible for your eyepatch and parrot!


Arrrrr Billy have you ever been buggered at sea?

No Capt. Buttgrinder, but I've been blown ashore.

Cheers
Marty
Don't think he'll ever earn "Putzdom" though....


You never know, if Donal could get his Putzship.......

Cheers
Marty
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Oh, Dona;
s a Putz alright....it just only comes out on rare occasions...BTW,
where the heck is he?


Perhaps he told his wife to shut up during the news once too often and
is in hospital recovering from a fractured skull caused by a blow from a
12 lb. cast iron frying pan?

Cheers
Marty


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