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Gilligan September 28th 06 06:10 AM

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If one looks he

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

They can plainly see that sailing (as RB does it) burns the same amount of
calories as bowling!

Bowling!!!!

Kite flying may be even more strenuous. Pray he doesn't get another heart
attack. Knitting might require the same level of exertion.




Scout September 28th 06 09:26 AM

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
...
If one looks he

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

They can plainly see that sailing (as RB does it) burns the same amount of
calories as bowling!

Bowling!!!!

Kite flying may be even more strenuous. Pray he doesn't get another heart
attack. Knitting might require the same level of exertion.


Boxing looks good, and I'd only have to fight vigorously in the ring for 1
hour to use 1 kcal? Piece o' cake!
They should add dropping and chopping oak trees - I lost 3 pounds yesterday
doing the same.
Scout



Gilligan September 28th 06 02:27 PM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...

Just hang up a heavy bag (no, I don't mean Scotty's wife) and use it a few
times
a week.


And see what it does to your wrists after a few years.

Try this instead:

http://ctr.usf.edu/shotokan/makiwara.html



Frank Boettcher September 28th 06 02:52 PM

RB and Sailing
 
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:10:38 -0600, "Gilligan"
wrote:

If one looks he

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

Hey, great chart. Based on the chart I burn about an average of 850
cal/day with training runs of about 8.5 min miles for an average of
about an hour per day. A little more on interval day when the pace
quickens.

What the chart doesn't mention is the metabolic impact. If you run
consistently (or do any aerobic exercise) at a high rate, your
metabolism alters so that you will burn more calories when not
running.

Frank





Gilligan September 28th 06 03:06 PM

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:10:38 -0600, "Gilligan"
wrote:

If one looks he

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

Hey, great chart. Based on the chart I burn about an average of 850
cal/day with training runs of about 8.5 min miles for an average of
about an hour per day. A little more on interval day when the pace
quickens.

What the chart doesn't mention is the metabolic impact. If you run
consistently (or do any aerobic exercise) at a high rate, your
metabolism alters so that you will burn more calories when not
running.

Frank

Frank,

You may like this:

http://www.healthstatus.com/cbc.html

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml

I have a Garmin 205 that estimates calories burned. It works ok on flat
ground with no wind. If you go out and back on the same track it comes close
estimating calories for hills and wind. What's uncanny about the GPS is you
can review your track of high speed turns and sharpen them up even better.
The GPS even works indoors (not everywhere, but much better than older GPS
units).



Frank Boettcher September 28th 06 03:34 PM

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:06:05 -0600, "Gilligan"
wrote:


"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:10:38 -0600, "Gilligan"
wrote:

If one looks he

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

Hey, great chart. Based on the chart I burn about an average of 850
cal/day with training runs of about 8.5 min miles for an average of
about an hour per day. A little more on interval day when the pace
quickens.

What the chart doesn't mention is the metabolic impact. If you run
consistently (or do any aerobic exercise) at a high rate, your
metabolism alters so that you will burn more calories when not
running.

Frank

Frank,

You may like this:

http://www.healthstatus.com/cbc.html

http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml

I have a Garmin 205 that estimates calories burned. It works ok on flat
ground with no wind. If you go out and back on the same track it comes close
estimating calories for hills and wind. What's uncanny about the GPS is you
can review your track of high speed turns and sharpen them up even better.
The GPS even works indoors (not everywhere, but much better than older GPS
units).



Thanks. More good calculators. A more accurate aerobic activity burn
rate is 887 based on the calculators with a 3256 cal/day for all
activities.

I've shied away from GPS, pace/distance calculators, heart rate
monitors and the like, preferring to keep the activity simple, just me
and the woods where I can just let my mind wander and not have to
"keep track" I do wear a watch but only use it on interval day. And
I only do intervals within 5 weeks of any competitive race.

The net result is that I've lost over 26 lbs. over my 12 years of
running, very gradually, with the most coming in later years when I
upped the weekly distance to 35-38 miles.

I actually do think sailing competitively burns a lot more calories
than indicated, particularly on the short courses I've raced on the
last two seasons. Lots or mark rounding and tacking on short courses
in a crowd. I'm generally worn out and sore after race day. And the
owner of the boat I race with typically goes into a race shorthanded.

Frank



Gilligan September 28th 06 04:03 PM

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...

I actually do think sailing competitively burns a lot more calories
than indicated, particularly on the short courses I've raced on the
last two seasons. Lots or mark rounding and tacking on short courses
in a crowd. I'm generally worn out and sore after race day. And the
owner of the boat I race with typically goes into a race shorthanded.


I come back tired from sailing too and I don't race. There are usually a few
bruises and one or two muscles a little tweaked that I normally don't use.
My outings are usually all day.


A heart rate monitor is good to use for training. It can indicate when you
are fatigued and helps keep the aerobic output up. On a bike it is easy to
view and not distracting, running is another story.



DSK September 28th 06 08:57 PM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote
Just hang up a heavy bag (no, I don't mean Scotty's wife) and use it a few
times a week.



What a nice thing to say. I bet your parents would be proud
of you if they saw this post.


Gilligan wrote:
And see what it does to your wrists after a few years.

Try this instead:

http://ctr.usf.edu/shotokan/makiwara.html


Been there, done that, and it is good exercise. Not to diss
a traditional shotokan practice, but IMHO a light bag on a
long lead is better, once you have practiced form. It's more
exercise and develops footwork & balance. Better yet is to
put the bag on a pulley and have a trainer raise/lower the
bag while you work on it.

I recomment wearing at least slightly padded gloves, unless
you want to have really bad arthritis when you get to be
over 35.

DSK


Gilligan September 28th 06 09:50 PM

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Been there, done that, and it is good exercise. Not to diss a traditional
shotokan practice, but IMHO a light bag on a long lead is better, once you
have practiced form. It's more exercise and develops footwork & balance.
Better yet is to put the bag on a pulley and have a trainer raise/lower
the bag while you work on it.


You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie. He was in a coma for 15
years, came out of it, buried a railroad tie in the ground as a makiwari
board and within weeks of his awakening managed to snap the untapered tie
right off with one blow. Plus he was married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a
weight bag at all.

Did you study Shotokan?



DSK September 28th 06 10:27 PM

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Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.


I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I
don't watch many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15
years, came out of it, buried a railroad tie in the ground as a makiwari
board and within weeks of his awakening managed to snap the untapered tie
right off with one blow. Plus he was married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a
weight bag at all.


Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my
opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?


No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices
from a wide range of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK


Scout September 28th 06 10:55 PM

RB and Sailing
 
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.


I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.


Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?


No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK


I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout



DSK September 28th 06 11:07 PM

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Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect 800
feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the
mightiest oak with a single karate chop.

DSK


katy September 28th 06 11:45 PM

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Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.

I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?

No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK


I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!

Scout September 29th 06 12:17 AM

RB and Sailing
 
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK


Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!
The stone is down, tomorrow cometh macadam.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...97509592OabOFy
Scout



Scout September 29th 06 12:26 AM

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"katy" wrote in message ...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK


I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!


There not too big but they have a real attitude.
Here's a pic of the one in my basement
Scout's basement squirrel
Scout

Scout September 29th 06 12:29 AM

RB and Sailing
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK


Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!
The stone is down, tomorrow cometh macadam.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...97509592OabOFy
Scout


btw - sorry about the quality of the webshots - they were taken with my cell
phone.
Scout



Gilligan September 29th 06 01:11 AM

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"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK


Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!
The stone is down, tomorrow cometh macadam.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...97509592OabOFy
Scout

If you lived in a cramped, second floor apartment in Queens you would have
more time for sailing.



Gilligan September 29th 06 01:12 AM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a railroad
tie in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK


I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!
Scout

My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!


And awfully big nuts!



Scout September 29th 06 01:19 AM

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"Gilligan" wrote in message ...

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK


Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!
The stone is down, tomorrow cometh macadam.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...97509592OabOFy
Scout

If you lived in a cramped, second floor apartment in Queens you would have
more time for sailing.


Once the macadam is down, I can do a dry run (play with it in the backyard, per Scotty!) and then I'll be slipping her into the Bass River for the maiden voyage of Sheryl Lee, a 30 mile sail around the Great Bay and Long Beach Island. God willing.
Scout


Scout September 29th 06 01:41 AM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:51 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest
oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK


Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!


Home Despot usually has a ton of those for sale this time of year. This
year
they have gone straight to Snow Blowers. A container ship must have sunk
or
something because the 10 hp chipper shredders are not available nationally
and
the little useless 5.5 hp models are even in short supply. I finally found
a 10
hp model at the 7th HD I checked. They had ONE. It's now in my barn.

CWM


Thanks Charlie,
I actually have the Craftsmen 7.5 chipper-shredder and it's done an
excellent job so far. I've put some heavy duty hours on it. I've tried to
beat it up but it just beats me up even more. It'll take up to 3" dia and
about a 10 gallon bucket's worth of leaves and twigs per load. (or, a bushel
and a peck!).
Scout



Gilligan September 29th 06 02:43 AM

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"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:51 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
t...
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest
oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK

Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!


Home Despot usually has a ton of those for sale this time of year. This
year
they have gone straight to Snow Blowers. A container ship must have sunk
or
something because the 10 hp chipper shredders are not available
nationally and
the little useless 5.5 hp models are even in short supply. I finally
found a 10
hp model at the 7th HD I checked. They had ONE. It's now in my barn.

CWM


Thanks Charlie,
I actually have the Craftsmen 7.5 chipper-shredder and it's done an
excellent job so far. I've put some heavy duty hours on it. I've tried to
beat it up but it just beats me up even more. It'll take up to 3" dia and
about a 10 gallon bucket's worth of leaves and twigs per load. (or, a
bushel and a peck!).
Scout


Rent a good sized Vermeer. They can chip down railroad ties.



katy September 29th 06 03:25 AM

RB and Sailing
 
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote
in message ...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in

message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a

railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he

was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a

wide range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK

I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly

erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!


There not too big but they have a real attitude.
Here's a pic of the one in my basement
Scout's basement squirrel
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/Tasmanian_devil.jpg
Scout


ummm...you got more problems than you thought you had....

katy September 29th 06 03:26 AM

RB and Sailing
 
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a railroad
tie in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!
Scout

My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!


And awfully big nuts!


That's a kind of personal observation....

Gilligan September 29th 06 04:29 AM

RB and Sailing
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a railroad
tie in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his
awakening managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow.
Plus he was married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at
all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!
Scout
My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!


And awfully big nuts!

That's a kind of personal observation....


One would think that large squirrels would be large because they consume
large nuts since trees usually have a fixed number of seeds.



Gilligan September 29th 06 04:29 AM

RB and Sailing
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote
in message ...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in

message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't

watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a

railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he

was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide

range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK

I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly

erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!

There not too big but they have a real attitude.
Here's a pic of the one in my basement
Scout's basement squirrel
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/Tasmanian_devil.jpg
Scout


ummm...you got more problems than you thought you had....


Flying monkeys in the attic?



katy September 29th 06 05:24 AM

RB and Sailing
 
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote
in message ...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in
message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't
watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a
railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he
was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK

I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!
There not too big but they have a real attitude.
Here's a pic of the one in my basement
Scout's basement squirrel
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/Tasmanian_devil.jpg
Scout

ummm...you got more problems than you thought you had....


Flying monkeys in the attic?


ih goody...I'll be right over....

Flying Tadpole September 29th 06 05:49 AM

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Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote
in message ...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in
message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't
watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a
railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus he
was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK

I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!
There not too big but they have a real attitude.
Here's a pic of the one in my basement
Scout's basement squirrel
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/Tasmanian_devil.jpg
Scout

ummm...you got more problems than you thought you had....


Flying monkeys in the attic?



It's not monkeys flying out of the attic that's the problem...

--

Flying Tadpole
----------------------------------
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpole
http://music.download.com/timfatchen
http://music.download.com/internetopera

Scout September 29th 06 08:35 AM

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't
watch many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a
railroad tie in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of
his awakening managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one
blow. Plus he was married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag
at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect 800 feet of chain link fence!
Scout
My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!

And awfully big nuts!

That's a kind of personal observation....


One would think that large squirrels would be large because they consume
large nuts since trees usually have a fixed number of seeds.


I suspect you are right because I saw neighbors looking my way and I
overheard one of them commenting on the big f-ing nut.
Now I understand!
Scout




Scout September 29th 06 08:37 AM

RB and Sailing
 
"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote
in message ...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in
message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't
watch
many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a
railroad tie
in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of his
awakening
managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one blow. Plus
he was
married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a
wide range
of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK

I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect 800
feet of chain link fence!
Scout


My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!
There not too big but they have a real attitude.
Here's a pic of the one in my basement
Scout's basement squirrel
http://staff.science.uva.nl/~delaat/Tasmanian_devil.jpg
Scout
ummm...you got more problems than you thought you had....


Flying monkeys in the attic?


It's not monkeys flying out of the attic that's the problem...


Yes, and the problem seems worse at night. Your guard is down, you see!
Scout



Scout September 29th 06 10:33 AM

RB and Sailing
 
"Gilligan" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:51 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
et...
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest
oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK

Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!

Home Despot usually has a ton of those for sale this time of year. This
year
they have gone straight to Snow Blowers. A container ship must have sunk
or
something because the 10 hp chipper shredders are not available
nationally and
the little useless 5.5 hp models are even in short supply. I finally
found a 10
hp model at the 7th HD I checked. They had ONE. It's now in my barn.

CWM


Thanks Charlie,
I actually have the Craftsmen 7.5 chipper-shredder and it's done an
excellent job so far. I've put some heavy duty hours on it. I've tried to
beat it up but it just beats me up even more. It'll take up to 3" dia and
about a 10 gallon bucket's worth of leaves and twigs per load. (or, a
bushel and a peck!).
Scout


Rent a good sized Vermeer. They can chip down railroad ties.


Years ago a neighbor who worked for a tree service let me use his industrial
chipper. That thing could handle small trees. It liked to reach out and
greet the user, pulling the wood from one's hands. I quickly learned to
throw the trunks and branches like a spear. Awesome.
Scout



DSK September 29th 06 01:46 PM

RB and Sailing
 
Rent a good sized Vermeer. They can chip down railroad ties.


A Dutch Renaissance painter can chip down railroad ties??
Wow that girl with the pearl earring must be tough!


Scout wrote:
Years ago a neighbor who worked for a tree service let me use his industrial
chipper. That thing could handle small trees. It liked to reach out and
greet the user, pulling the wood from one's hands. I quickly learned to
throw the trunks and branches like a spear. Awesome.


Conversely, one of my favorite emergency room stories is
about a man who tried to commit suicide by diving head first
into a machine like that. It stalled, but only after tearing
away part of his scalp. Bad idea.

PS his attempt was not successful but left very interesting
scars.

DSK


Scotty September 29th 06 03:02 PM

RB and Sailing
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:51 -0400, "Scout"

wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must

flawlessly erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell

the mightiest oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK


Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!


Home Despot usually has a ton of those for sale this time

of year. This year
they have gone straight to Snow Blowers. A container ship

must have sunk or
something because the 10 hp chipper shredders are not

available nationally and
the little useless 5.5 hp models are even in short supply.

I finally found a 10
hp model at the 7th HD I checked. They had ONE. It's now

in my barn.


What do you use it for, primarily?

Scotty





katy September 29th 06 03:28 PM

RB and Sailing
 
Scout wrote:
"Gilligan" wrote in message
...
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:51 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect
800 feet of chain link fence!

You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can fell the mightiest
oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK
Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater now!
Home Despot usually has a ton of those for sale this time of year. This
year
they have gone straight to Snow Blowers. A container ship must have sunk
or
something because the 10 hp chipper shredders are not available
nationally and
the little useless 5.5 hp models are even in short supply. I finally
found a 10
hp model at the 7th HD I checked. They had ONE. It's now in my barn.

CWM
Thanks Charlie,
I actually have the Craftsmen 7.5 chipper-shredder and it's done an
excellent job so far. I've put some heavy duty hours on it. I've tried to
beat it up but it just beats me up even more. It'll take up to 3" dia and
about a 10 gallon bucket's worth of leaves and twigs per load. (or, a
bushel and a peck!).
Scout

Rent a good sized Vermeer. They can chip down railroad ties.


Years ago a neighbor who worked for a tree service let me use his industrial
chipper. That thing could handle small trees. It liked to reach out and
greet the user, pulling the wood from one's hands. I quickly learned to
throw the trunks and branches like a spear. Awesome.
Scout


My son in law has one of those...gets rid of a mountain of stuff in 15
minutes...never wear gloves when using one...a branch snagged on a gloce
can drag you in..of course, that would make nutrient rich mulch...

Scotty September 29th 06 03:50 PM

RB and Sailing
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Gilligan" wrote in

message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:17:51 -0400, "Scout"


wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
et...
Scout wrote:
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I

must flawlessly
erect
800 feet of chain link fence!


You want that in foil or saber?

Gilligan would have been more help earlier, he can

fell the mightiest
oak
with a single karate chop.

DSK

Well, I'll settle for a mighty leaf and twig eater

now!

Home Despot usually has a ton of those for sale this

time of year. This
year
they have gone straight to Snow Blowers. A container

ship must have sunk
or
something because the 10 hp chipper shredders are not

available
nationally and
the little useless 5.5 hp models are even in short

supply. I finally
found a 10
hp model at the 7th HD I checked. They had ONE. It's

now in my barn.

CWM

Thanks Charlie,
I actually have the Craftsmen 7.5 chipper-shredder and

it's done an
excellent job so far. I've put some heavy duty hours on

it. I've tried to
beat it up but it just beats me up even more. It'll

take up to 3" dia and
about a 10 gallon bucket's worth of leaves and twigs

per load. (or, a
bushel and a peck!).
Scout


Rent a good sized Vermeer. They can chip down railroad

ties.

Years ago a neighbor who worked for a tree service let me

use his industrial
chipper. That thing could handle small trees. It liked to

reach out and
greet the user, pulling the wood from one's hands. I

quickly learned to
throw the trunks and branches like a spear. Awesome.



Industrial chipper? Phhht. One of my customers has a
chipper/shredder that can take a dozen pallets at a time,
runs off a Cat 3408 diesel. Now THAT's a chipper!

Scotty



Scotty September 29th 06 03:57 PM

RB and Sailing
 

"Scout" wrote in message
...

If you lived in a cramped, second floor apartment in

Queens you would have
more time for sailing.


Once the macadam is down, I can do a dry run (play with it
in the backyard, per Scotty!) and then I'll be slipping her
into the Bass River for the maiden voyage of Sheryl Lee, a
30 mile sail around the Great Bay and Long Beach Island. God
willing.


Hah! You'll have sailed more than RB has all season.

;))




Gilligan September 29th 06 08:56 PM

RB and Sailing
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
You obviously did not see the Steven Segal movie.
I can't remember if I have or not... probably not, since I don't
watch many movies.

.... He was in a coma for 15 years, came out of it, buried a
railroad tie in the ground as a makiwari board and within weeks of
his awakening managed to snap the untapered tie right off with one
blow. Plus he was married to Kelly LeBrock! No need for a weight
bag at all.

Wow! Was that a true story? It would certainly change my opinion!

Except I don't think my wife would like the Kelly LeBrock part.


Did you study Shotokan?
No. But I have been in several dojos that took practices from a wide
range of disciplines.

Fencing is more fun and almost as good exercise.

DSK
I will require all your talents Grasshopper, as I must flawlessly
erect 800 feet of chain link fence!
Scout
My God you must have awfully big squirrels!!!!!!

And awfully big nuts!
That's a kind of personal observation....


One would think that large squirrels would be large because they consume
large nuts since trees usually have a fixed number of seeds.


I suspect you are right because I saw neighbors looking my way and I
overheard one of them commenting on the big f-ing nut.
Now I understand!
Scout


See!



Ellen MacArthur October 15th 06 12:29 AM

RB and Sailing
 

"Gilligan" wrote
| They can plainly see that sailing (as RB does it) burns the same amount of
| calories as bowling!


Sailing the right kind of boat does burn lots of calories. I've got good muscle tone and
some of it's because of sailing. It's good for the abs hiking out and leaning back on dinghies.....
If your interested I could post a photo of my flat tummy with abs better than most men have.
It goes to show that sailing can be physical. But only if you stick with the basics.

Cheers,
Ellen



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