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The jealousy is here is really sad. Of course we have those who are
pretty obvious about: Doug, Ellen-Neal, Ganzy and so on.
I have no idea why they post what they post. But here are the facts for
the sea trial.

1) Sea trial is a short sail as part of survey. Engine is run and
systems checked underway. My job is to both power and sail the boat for
the surveyor and new owners. The boat is now SOLD.

2) Wind conditions were between 12 and 16 knots with stronger winds
near Big Tom at City Island. Gusts are common there, just as they are
between Hart Island and Manhasset at times.

3) I had no trouble trimming the sails. Ganzy must know some pretty
awful instructors. The H43 is big & heavy and her sail-plan is easily
managed. As Thom noted, the boat is in the groove. I've sailed this
EXACT model in 20 knots steady brought back from Coney's and she was
easy to handle then as well.

4) I had this boat available for sale over the winter and the website
is now coming down. I have removed it from Yachtworld and our broker
page.

5) Yes, I was out sailing yesterday while you were posting. I was also
out sailing all afternoon on a J29 today and will probably be sailing
Heart of Gold tomorrow evening.

So, so, so VERY sorry this all upsets you so! But why?

Get over it. I sail while the rest of you post on ASA. And when I do
post here it's with actual photos of sailing on my boat and others.
Poor sods actually wimper about someone elses opinion I don't own, wind
conditions not reflected by sea state and worse! Aren't you all even
the least bit ashamed?
Most of you are pretty pathetic....seriously so! And those are the
facts.

And....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab. Rob" wrote


5) Yes, I was out sailing yesterday while you were
posting.


Where did you go?



I was also
out sailing all afternoon on a J29 today



*ALL* afternoon? WoW!


and will probably be sailing
Heart of Gold tomorrow evening.


Where are you going?




So, so, so VERY sorry this all upsets you so! But why?


It doesn't.




--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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posting.

Where did you go?

We went out to test my buddy's new UK sails. Pretty pricey, but nice.
I'm not rich enough for those babies....getting a pretty good main and
genoa with the stackpack from Doyle.


*ALL* afternoon? WoW!


Yeah, all afternoon on a J29 isn't the most comfortable sailing, but it
was fun!



Where are you going?


Sailing. Don't you ever go sailing?


It doesn't.

Hoist the sails and it might.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


Where are you going?


DAYSailing. Don't you ever go DAYsailing?


No, I go cruising.




--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


The jealousy is here is really sad. Of course we have those who are
pretty obvious about: Doug, Ellen-Neal, Ganzy and so on.
I have no idea why they post what they post. But here are the facts for
the sea trial.

1) Sea trial is a short sail as part of survey. Engine is run and
systems checked underway. My job is to both power and sail the boat for
the surveyor and new owners. The boat is now SOLD.

2) Wind conditions were between 12 and 16 knots with stronger winds
near Big Tom at City Island. Gusts are common there, just as they are
between Hart Island and Manhasset at times.

3) I had no trouble trimming the sails. Ganzy must know some pretty
awful instructors. The H43 is big & heavy and her sail-plan is easily
managed. As Thom noted, the boat is in the groove. I've sailed this
EXACT model in 20 knots steady brought back from Coney's and she was
easy to handle then as well.

4) I had this boat available for sale over the winter and the website
is now coming down. I have removed it from Yachtworld and our broker
page.

5) Yes, I was out sailing yesterday while you were posting. I was also
out sailing all afternoon on a J29 today and will probably be sailing
Heart of Gold tomorrow evening.

So, so, so VERY sorry this all upsets you so! But why?

Get over it. I sail while the rest of you post on ASA. And when I do
post here it's with actual photos of sailing on my boat and others.
Poor sods actually wimper about someone elses opinion I don't own, wind
conditions not reflected by sea state and worse! Aren't you all even
the least bit ashamed?
Most of you are pretty pathetic....seriously so! And those are the
facts.

And....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY


I put 275 miles on my bike last week in the Rocky Mountains. I hope to be
swimming several miles a week this winter. How thick are the callouses on
your butt?

Your are but a sad, sad physical specimen.

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DAYSailing. Don't you ever go DAYsailing?

No, I go cruising.


I'm taking Heart of Gold to Port Jeff in two weeks for a funeral sail.
I'll bring her over on my own, then meet Suzanne and other mourners at
a private dock. I'll spend a couple of days aboard on my own. Does that
count?
I like daysailing. Sorry that bothers you.


RB
35s5
NY

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

I put 275 miles on my bike last week in the Rocky Mountains.


Golly! That's nice. I played darts today.


I hope to be
swimming several miles a week this winter.

Yowzers! That's nice. I did really well in the darts game.


How thick are the callouses on
your butt?


The darts would go right through.



RB
35s5
NY

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Sad Sailors of ASA
 

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


The jealousy is here is really sad. Of course we have those who are
pretty obvious about: Doug, Ellen-Neal, Ganzy and so on.
I have no idea why they post what they post. But here are the facts for
the sea trial.

It seems to me that none of the people mentioned here are at all jealous.
Rob, however, consistently comment about his "superiority" and his expensive
toys. I find that truly sad and boring, thus I won't read his posts unless
they're reposted. If you really think he's entertaining, feel free to read
and respond to him, of course, but I won't read them directly.


1) Sea trial is a short sail as part of survey. Engine is run and
systems checked underway. My job is to both power and sail the boat for
the surveyor and new owners. The boat is now SOLD.

That's not what a sea trial is. A typical sea trial is sometimes part of the
survey, usually adding to the cost of the survey. More typically, it's after
a deposit is given and before the survey. The purpose of the sea trial is to
confirm that the new owner likes the way the boat sails in a variety of
conditions, including how the boat handles under engine. Typically, the
buyer is at the helm with the broker and perhaps the owner along. Some
systems are checked, but many of those are more easily checked at the dock,
obvious expections noted. The typical inland (or near) sea trial should last
a couple of hours, depending upon what is agreed. I know of sea trials that
would take most of a day, for example, if the boat is intended for offshore
sailing.

2) Wind conditions were between 12 and 16 knots with stronger winds
near Big Tom at City Island. Gusts are common there, just as they are
between Hart Island and Manhasset at times.

Who know and who cares. Maybe that's where the trial was, maybe it wasn't.
But, calling a good breeze 10 kts is, out here, a light air day.

3) I had no trouble trimming the sails. Ganzy must know some pretty
awful instructors. The H43 is big & heavy and her sail-plan is easily
managed. As Thom noted, the boat is in the groove. I've sailed this
EXACT model in 20 knots steady brought back from Coney's and she was
easy to handle then as well.

Trimming the sails? What does that have to do with anything? You don't need
to be muscle-bound to trim sails. We rarely use a winch handle in 25kts wind
with gusts much higher. It's all about timing. Even trimming under heavy air
isn't much of an issue without a handle if you know what you're doing. Use
the helm to help by heading up briefly after a tack if you must. Perhaps you
would use a handle while jibing in heavy air, but on the Yamaha 30 that I
teach on and certainly on my boat it isn't necessary. We didn't need handles
on the H42 that we had out the Gate in the 15+ kts winds either.

Rob must think I really care about his opinion of fellow instructors, so I
won't bother to comment.

4) I had this boat available for sale over the winter and the website
is now coming down. I have removed it from Yachtworld and our broker
page.

This must be intended to impress someone.

5) Yes, I was out sailing yesterday while you were posting. I was also
out sailing all afternoon on a J29 today and will probably be sailing
Heart of Gold tomorrow evening.

All afternoon? Big deal.

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see what I mean?




"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:33 -0400, "Scotty"
wrote:


"Swab Rob" wrote in message

oups.com..
..


Where are you going?


DAYSailing. Don't you ever go DAYsailing?


No, I go cruising.

We know!

http://www.squirt.org/

CWM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

5) Yes, I was out sailing yesterday while you were
posting. I was also
out sailing all afternoon on a J29 today and will
probably be sailing
Heart of Gold tomorrow evening.

All afternoon? Big deal.


that is a big deal for the Putz, he usually only goes out
for 2 hours.

Scotty

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

Why don't you write a review of the boat Rob.

Give us a detailed report on it.

Bart

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Nutsy,

You know that not everyone lives close enough to enjoy their boats for
short sails.

I, like you, was lucky enough to even go out for an hour or two. I
enjoyed it for many years.

I do tip my hat to those who have to travel longer distance and still
sail. There is no way for them to enjoy those short evening sails but
they still get the pleasure of sailing.

Just look at Scout solution! They are every bit the sailor that you
are. Probably as good as you are or better, all 'round but maybe not.
That's what makes a great discussion. Lying doesn't increase your
ability.

Nutsy, you are a wonderful "Kick-me" Each lie is so obvious, people
can't resist the temptation to point out what you already know. BS is BS
and you have it by the truck load

The truth has never seemed to bother you. I give you thanks for that,
once again! You keep ASA very active




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

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Dance! Dance my little puppet.


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:27:08 -0400, "Scotty"
wrote:

see what I mean?


Yes. I was just giving an example for those who didn't
know what you meant.

CWM




"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:58:33 -0400, "Scotty"
wrote:


"Swab Rob" wrote in message


roups.com.
..
.


Where are you going?


DAYSailing. Don't you ever go DAYsailing?


No, I go cruising.

We know!

http://www.squirt.org/

CWM

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

You know that not everyone lives close enough to enjoy
their boats for
short sails.

I, like you, was lucky enough to even go out for an hour
or two. I
enjoyed it for many years.


But unlike Bob, you didn't brag about sailing the most .




I do tip my hat to those who have to travel longer
distance and still
sail. There is no way for them to enjoy those short
evening sails but
they still get the pleasure of sailing.


Right, that's why I'm going sailing today and won't be back
till Fri., or Sat., or whenever...



Just look at Scout solution!


Yup, he can now play all he wants , with his boat in the
backyard.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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No response Rob?

I'd class you as a baby and the Sad ASA Sailor.

Did you even go out on this boat or is it all BS?
If you sailed the boat you should be able to give us
at least a feeble report. We don't expect you to
really know what to look for. Never-the-less, here is
your chance to show us what you know.

You have been called out--again.

Bart wrote:
Why don't you write a review of the boat Rob.

Give us a detailed report on it.

Bart

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

No response Rob?



I was out sailing, Bart.
What would you like to know about the Hunter 43? I've only sailed it
twice for short periods, but I have some idea of her behavior. I
certainly don't agree with JG or his buddies that it's hard to sail. In
fact, trim was quite forgiving. She's heavy and tracks okay, but not
easy to tack without some good breeze. Her helm is short (Very) on
feedback and her arch/bimini combo make it hard to watch the sail trim.
She feels heavy and slow compared to a Catalina 400 for example, but
allowances should be made for the gear level and added weight here.
Surprisingly, room behind the helm is poor. This model has everything
from Wind Generator, genset to a pricey custom davits system. She even
has power winches to send her main up in a jiffy.
I'll probably taking the owner out again in a few days and I can give
you more info if you're interested. Plus I'll take some better pics.
She's not a boat I'd buy, but then I'm not 66 years old either. This
boat makes sense for some folks and for 140K she's a floating home with
a lot of comfort. Sitting right next to her slip is a new Hunter 38 run
by Sailtime. Looking at that boat I can honestly say Hunter has come a
long way since the 90's.

RB
35s5
NY

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

Thanks for the report Rob. I would like to know more.
And, I'd enjoy seeing some pic's of the boat.

Is this it?
http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...46&fno=0&bts=T

What year was it?
Why was it not easy to tack? What size was the head sail? Speaking of
which is it a masthead or fractional rig?

What kind of winches does she have? Lewmar? How many? What size? I'd
guess it only has four--two primaries and two cabintop for halyard. Am
I wrong?

Where is the sink in the galley? Close to the centerline? Is it deep?
Layout below is???

Is the main fully battened? Does it have an adjustable backstay? Does
it even have a backstay? Straight or split? What sail shape controls
does it have?

What kind of keel? Fin? Wing? Is it a spade rudder? or Skeg hung?

Draft? Beam? End or mid boom sheeting? Rigid vang? Dutchman/Lazy
Jacks or what? Single or double spreader?

Thanks in advance

Bart




Capt. Rob wrote:
I was out sailing, Bart.
What would you like to know about the Hunter 43? I've only sailed it
twice for short periods, but I have some idea of her behavior. I
certainly don't agree with JG or his buddies that it's hard to sail. In
fact, trim was quite forgiving. She's heavy and tracks okay, but not
easy to tack without some good breeze. Her helm is short (Very) on
feedback and her arch/bimini combo make it hard to watch the sail trim.
She feels heavy and slow compared to a Catalina 400 for example, but
allowances should be made for the gear level and added weight here.
Surprisingly, room behind the helm is poor. This model has everything
from Wind Generator, genset to a pricey custom davits system. She even
has power winches to send her main up in a jiffy.
I'll probably taking the owner out again in a few days and I can give
you more info if you're interested. Plus I'll take some better pics.
She's not a boat I'd buy, but then I'm not 66 years old either. This
boat makes sense for some folks and for 140K she's a floating home with
a lot of comfort. Sitting right next to her slip is a new Hunter 38 run
by Sailtime. Looking at that boat I can honestly say Hunter has come a
long way since the 90's.

RB
35s5
NY

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

What size was the head sail? Speaking of
which is it a masthead or fractional rig?


Bart, you're acting pretty silly. Some of your questions are obvious in
the pic.
Bad troll on your part.
Off for a sail at 3:00.



RB
35s5
NY

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No troll. It looks like I made it clear you
have no clue what sort of boat you were sailing.
You can't answer the obvious questions that
are the first things other sailors would want to
know about a boat like masthead or fractional?

Off for a sail? Pay attention this time.


Capt. Rob wrote:
What size was the head sail? Speaking of
which is it a masthead or fractional rig?


Bart, you're acting pretty silly. Some of your questions are obvious in
the pic.
Bad troll on your part.
Off for a sail at 3:00.

Sad Sailors of ASA
 

Bart wrote:
No troll. It looks like I made it clear you
have no clue what sort of boat you were sailing.
You can't answer the obvious questions that
are the first things other sailors would want to
know about a boat like masthead or fractional?




Dude, get over it. If you don't know the rig type for this boat, you're
truly sad. If you think I don't know it, fine. I'm only the selling
broker on her. I'm guessing that you have no clue.
Here's a hint: Where's the backstay?

As to your other sad troll questions....puhlease! You gotta do better
than that. Keep us posted on your project boat. If you need a boat to
actually take sailing I'm about to get a nice Pearson 37 in that needs
nothing.

Going sailing as soon as the kid wakes up....l8ter.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:


I'm only the selling
broker on her.

Bob, I can't seem to find your name listed with the Yacht Brokers
Association of America, perhaps you should contact them and have them
correct their membership list.

Cheers
Marty