Capt. JG wrote:
Here's the original question:

How do you sail off a dock when the wind is
setting you towards the dock. [Assume an end-tie
situation with no motor] 1 pt

Nothing said about kedging off. If the question had been how do you kedge
off the dock so you can sail, then we could have a discussion about
particular techniques.

As Scotty said, it's *an* answer, not the question.

I'm still waiting for the explanation about how one kedges off the dock when
there's no one around to take the kedge out or you don't have a dinghy to do
it or the conditions are such that you shouldn't take your dinghy off.

Heh. Nobody said it was *the* answer, only that it was *an* answer.

I can't understand the bit about not having someone around to take the
kedge out anyway. The boat's tied up to a dock, right? What's to stop
*you*, if singlehanding, taking the kedge out yourself?

In addition if the wind/waves are bad enough to stop you
rowing/motoring a dinghy off to drop the kedge anchor, I'd like to see
you get the big boat off the dock face. You sure aren't going to be
pushing it off.

Besides you missed the obvious scenario where kedging off wouldn't
work, if you're looking for reasons not to do something.

Now I've lost interest. You're just arguing to try and obfuscate a
pretty simple answer that you don't agree with, because Mooron
suggested it originally.

PDW

Actually, he said "it's the answer." It's not the only answer, nor is it the
most common answer. In fact, it's one of the least common answers.

How does one take the kedge out oneself, if you don't have a means to do
it... dink, whatever?

I really don't care if you've lost interest. I'm not trying to obfuscate
anything. I gave an answer that was not only technically accurate but common
practice AND what is taught. Someone else gave an answer that is in the
less-than-1-percent use solution.

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"Peter" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Here's the original question:

How do you sail off a dock when the wind is
setting you towards the dock. [Assume an end-tie
situation with no motor] 1 pt

Nothing said about kedging off. If the question had been how do you kedge
off the dock so you can sail, then we could have a discussion about
particular techniques.

As Scotty said, it's *an* answer, not the question.

I'm still waiting for the explanation about how one kedges off the dock
when
there's no one around to take the kedge out or you don't have a dinghy to
do
it or the conditions are such that you shouldn't take your dinghy off.

Heh. Nobody said it was *the* answer, only that it was *an* answer.

I can't understand the bit about not having someone around to take the
kedge out anyway. The boat's tied up to a dock, right? What's to stop
*you*, if singlehanding, taking the kedge out yourself?

In addition if the wind/waves are bad enough to stop you
rowing/motoring a dinghy off to drop the kedge anchor, I'd like to see
you get the big boat off the dock face. You sure aren't going to be
pushing it off.

Besides you missed the obvious scenario where kedging off wouldn't
work, if you're looking for reasons not to do something.

Now I've lost interest. You're just arguing to try and obfuscate a
pretty simple answer that you don't agree with, because Mooron
suggested it originally.

PDW

It's actually pretty simple. - Sit back, sip a few margaritas, and sail
out when the winds change direction.

With medium to large boats, however, aren't you going to have auxiliary
power?

Jim


wrote:
How do you sail off a dock when the wind is
setting you towards the dock. [Assume an end-tie
situation with no motor] 1 pt

No, but you have to use your anchor. There is no other way, apparently. :-)
I can just see people swinging their anchor around their heads like the
hammer throw in the Olympics, so they can get it out far enough to kedge.

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"JimC" wrote in message
...
It's actually pretty simple. - Sit back, sip a few margaritas, and sail
out when the winds change direction.

With medium to large boats, however, aren't you going to have auxiliary
power?

Jim


wrote:
How do you sail off a dock when the wind is
setting you towards the dock. [Assume an end-tie
situation with no motor] 1 pt

Capt. JG wrote:
No, but you have to use your anchor. There is no other way, apparently. :-)
I can just see people swinging their anchor around their heads like the
hammer throw in the Olympics, so they can get it out far enough to kedge.

....and wrapping the rode, anchor and all, around an innocent bystanders
neck...

No, that would never happen. You have to be alone in order to kedge.

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
No, but you have to use your anchor. There is no other way, apparently.
:-) I can just see people swinging their anchor around their heads like
the hammer throw in the Olympics, so they can get it out far enough to
kedge.

...and wrapping the rode, anchor and all, around an innocent bystanders
neck...

Capt. JG wrote:
No, that would never happen. You have to be alone in order to kedge.


Don't tell anyone..we've lefged with 2 people aboard...will we be fined
when they find out?