ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

Nope... they are there an legal, but that does open an interesting question.
What if you have three legal flares and discharge them all signalling for
help. Then, you're boarded. You have no flares. Do they cite you?

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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, they've now found something else that is lacking aboard
the
sailboat. The Coast Guard have these particular items and use them, but
in
any case the skipper is cited for not having them. Name this item.

Flares??



Regards


Donal
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ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Nope... they are there an legal, but that does open an
interesting question.
What if you have three legal flares and discharge them all
signalling for
help. Then, you're boarded. You have no flares. Do they
cite you?


No, of course not.

ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Nope... they are there an legal, but that does open an interesting question.
What if you have three legal flares and discharge them all signalling for
help. Then, you're boarded. You have no flares. Do they cite you?


Good Lord Jon...snap outta it.

Joe


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"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately, they've now found something else that is lacking aboard
the
sailboat. The Coast Guard have these particular items and use them, but
in
any case the skipper is cited for not having them. Name this item.

Flares??



Regards


Donal
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ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

How do they know I had them?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Nope... they are there an legal, but that does open an
interesting question.
What if you have three legal flares and discharge them all
signalling for
help. Then, you're boarded. You have no flares. Do they
cite you?


No, of course not.

ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

Hah... but seriously... how do they know you had legal flares before you
used them? I could show them a receipt I suppose. :-)

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
Nope... they are there an legal, but that does open an interesting
question.
What if you have three legal flares and discharge them all signalling for
help. Then, you're boarded. You have no flares. Do they cite you?


Good Lord Jon...snap outta it.

Joe


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"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately, they've now found something else that is lacking aboard
the
sailboat. The Coast Guard have these particular items and use them,
but
in
any case the skipper is cited for not having them. Name this item.

Flares??



Regards


Donal
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ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

One final hint. The supply of this item needs to be replenished when it
expires (NOT flares damnit).

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Later on that dark and stormy night... (not really, the conditions are
benign)....

We're now at anchor in a designated anchorage, but just to be safe, we
have our anchor light on. We have a very secure holding, but to be doubly
certain, we're keeping an anchor watch.

Around midnight, the skipper, who is standing watch, notices a vessel
heading toward the boat, clearly out of control, weaving this way and
that. Despite his best efforts, he is unable to maneuver the sailboat away
from the oncoming vessel by using the engine, hauling in the anchor line
or even dropping the anchor. In fact, there's little time to do anything,
and within seconds, the oncoming vessel has struck the boat. The vessel is
a small sport fishing boat, whose operator suffered a stroke. (This was
determined after the fact of the collision of course.)

After the collision, the skipper assembles the passengers, has them don
their PFDs, distributes their weight as best as possible, and secures all
watertight doors, hatches, etc., and the Coast Guard is called using the
proper procedure words. They respond, and soon they arrive.

Fortunately, no one is killed, the injuries on both boats are relatively
minor, and the sport fishing skipper is airlifted to a hospital and will
recover, but there is considerable damage, perhaps several hundred
thousand dollars, that might even necessitate abandoning one or both
boats.

Once again, they do a thorough inspection, and they now find all the
required postings, including the Emergency Check-off List (the skipper
created one and posted it in the last few hours).

Unfortunately, they've now found something else that is lacking aboard the
sailboat. The Coast Guard have these particular items and use them, but in
any case the skipper is cited for not having them. Name this item.

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ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

Maybe. I believe the shells for my flare pistol have the expiration on the
paper. I'll check.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:46:24 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Hah... but seriously... how do they know you had legal flares before you
used them? I could show them a receipt I suppose. :-)

Or the spent shells? You might even still be able to read the expiration
date.

CWM

ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

I typically carry a bunch of expired flares. So, if I did have an emergency
requiring the use of flares, I would use the expired ones first. According
to the CG chief I spoke with (this came up in a class I taught about what to
do with the expired flares), he recommended keeping them aboard, but not in
the same container as the legal ones. Then, if you're boarded, you don't
have to waste a lot of time going through all the dozens/hundreds (perhaps
billions - I can't be sure :-) of expired ones to find the legal ones.

I've take that one step further, and labeled the expired flare box (clear
plastic) with EXPIRED, so there's no doubt. The legal ones are in the flare
pistol and cylinder.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:46:24 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Hah... but seriously... how do they know you had legal flares before you
used them? I could show them a receipt I suppose. :-)

Or the spent shells? You might even still be able to read the expiration
date.

CWM

ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

One final, final hint... this is a new requirement as of July 2006. Time to
look it up boys and girls...

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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One final hint. The supply of this item needs to be replenished when it
expires (NOT flares damnit).

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Later on that dark and stormy night... (not really, the conditions are
benign)....

We're now at anchor in a designated anchorage, but just to be safe, we
have our anchor light on. We have a very secure holding, but to be doubly
certain, we're keeping an anchor watch.

Around midnight, the skipper, who is standing watch, notices a vessel
heading toward the boat, clearly out of control, weaving this way and
that. Despite his best efforts, he is unable to maneuver the sailboat
away from the oncoming vessel by using the engine, hauling in the anchor
line or even dropping the anchor. In fact, there's little time to do
anything, and within seconds, the oncoming vessel has struck the boat.
The vessel is a small sport fishing boat, whose operator suffered a
stroke. (This was determined after the fact of the collision of course.)

After the collision, the skipper assembles the passengers, has them don
their PFDs, distributes their weight as best as possible, and secures all
watertight doors, hatches, etc., and the Coast Guard is called using the
proper procedure words. They respond, and soon they arrive.

Fortunately, no one is killed, the injuries on both boats are relatively
minor, and the sport fishing skipper is airlifted to a hospital and will
recover, but there is considerable damage, perhaps several hundred
thousand dollars, that might even necessitate abandoning one or both
boats.

Once again, they do a thorough inspection, and they now find all the
required postings, including the Emergency Check-off List (the skipper
created one and posted it in the last few hours).

Unfortunately, they've now found something else that is lacking aboard
the sailboat. The Coast Guard have these particular items and use them,
but in any case the skipper is cited for not having them. Name this item.

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ASA question #342 (part 2)
 

Ok. Nobody got it... so here's the answer... you're not going to like it.

You need to have an alocohol test kit aboard for each person on the boat,
including passengers, crew, amd skipper. It must be USCG approved, such as
this one. This is a new regulation for commercial, uninspected vessels.

http://www.testsymptomsathome.com/che02.asp

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Later on that dark and stormy night... (not really, the conditions are
benign)....

We're now at anchor in a designated anchorage, but just to be safe, we
have our anchor light on. We have a very secure holding, but to be doubly
certain, we're keeping an anchor watch.

Around midnight, the skipper, who is standing watch, notices a vessel
heading toward the boat, clearly out of control, weaving this way and
that. Despite his best efforts, he is unable to maneuver the sailboat away
from the oncoming vessel by using the engine, hauling in the anchor line
or even dropping the anchor. In fact, there's little time to do anything,
and within seconds, the oncoming vessel has struck the boat. The vessel is
a small sport fishing boat, whose operator suffered a stroke. (This was
determined after the fact of the collision of course.)

After the collision, the skipper assembles the passengers, has them don
their PFDs, distributes their weight as best as possible, and secures all
watertight doors, hatches, etc., and the Coast Guard is called using the
proper procedure words. They respond, and soon they arrive.

Fortunately, no one is killed, the injuries on both boats are relatively
minor, and the sport fishing skipper is airlifted to a hospital and will
recover, but there is considerable damage, perhaps several hundred
thousand dollars, that might even necessitate abandoning one or both
boats.

Once again, they do a thorough inspection, and they now find all the
required postings, including the Emergency Check-off List (the skipper
created one and posted it in the last few hours).

Unfortunately, they've now found something else that is lacking aboard the
sailboat. The Coast Guard have these particular items and use them, but in
any case the skipper is cited for not having them. Name this item.

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