The Three Worst Presidents
 

Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagon Tie for 3rd worst
Jimmy Carter was certainly a man of high standards, but his total lack
of experience lead to a 4 year stalemate for American politics. Reagan
was well loved and knew how to play the average American like a fiddle,
but he was a racist cowboy who attempted to destroy the melting pot
that was the very fabric and soul of America

George Bush Sr, 2nd worst
Compared to his son, Bush Sr. seems like a mild prototype of his son,
though he did embrace at least some republican values of merit.

George Bush Jr. Worst president of all time...so far
Started war over invented WMDs
9/11 occurs on his watch
Sits in class room while towers burn and Americans die
Admits Iraq is no threat a few months before starting war campaign. It's on tape.
Uses OLD and VERY OLD intelligence dating back to early 90's to support war.
Announced the worlds funniest coalition of support (with almost zero military support).
Useless war generates the worst anti-American standard worldwide.
War claims the lives of thousands of Americans, civilians and children.
US forces are sent in without basic gear required and must scavenge for it.
Bush opposes woman's right to choose.
Bush opposes stem cell research against massive public outcry to appease his religious friends.
Bush denies secret prisons, torture and worse, then admits to it, defying the basic principals on which this country was founded.
Bush allows big oil to gouge the American public and they don't even try to hide the profits.

Congrats to our current president and his very few supporters.



RB
35s5
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Booo hoooin rant snipped

If they were the worst and beat your canidate then that says alot about
you.

Loser....try to do something positive about the future will you?

Joe



RB
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If they were the worst and beat your canidate then that says alot about

you.



Joe, you're so simplistic and dumb, it's just too easy to trip you up.
I voted for two of the "winners." But I was wrong. Almost every
republican I know also knows that they were wrong on Bush.
Even when you know your president lied to you, it's still fine for you.
In your angry little world it's a "us or them" battle, and you're so
certain there is a side to be on. That's just how Bush and many other
other horrible politicians play you so easily. Joe, there is right and
wrong and it's not about belonging to a party.
Have you ever seen the video of Bush laughing at the idea of Iraq as
any kind of threat to the USA?

Want to hear what Rice and Powell said only months before (In case you
didn't believe Bush)?


http://youtube.com/watch?v=y1X-I-38lrU

So, please tell us why we invaded IRAQ if Bush KNEW they had no WMDs.


RB
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagon Tie for 3rd worst
Jimmy Carter was certainly a man of high standards, but his total lack
of experience lead to a 4 year stalemate for American politics. Reagan
was well loved and knew how to play the average American like a fiddle,
but he was a racist cowboy who attempted to destroy the melting pot
that was the very fabric and soul of America

George Bush Sr, 2nd worst
Compared to his son, Bush Sr. seems like a mild prototype of his son,
though he did embrace at least some republican values of merit.

George Bush Jr. Worst president of all time...so far
Started war over invented WMDs
9/11 occurs on his watch
Sits in class room while towers burn and Americans die
Admits Iraq is no threat a few months before starting war campaign. It's
on tape.
Uses OLD and VERY OLD intelligence dating back to early 90's to support
war.
Announced the worlds funniest coalition of support (with almost zero
military support).
Useless war generates the worst anti-American standard worldwide.
War claims the lives of thousands of Americans, civilians and children.
US forces are sent in without basic gear required and must scavenge for
it.
Bush opposes woman's right to choose.
Bush opposes stem cell research against massive public outcry to appease
his religious friends.
Bush denies secret prisons, torture and worse, then admits to it, defying
the basic principals on which this country was founded.
Bush allows big oil to gouge the American public and they don't even try
to hide the profits.

Congrats to our current president and his very few supporters.

Predictably composed by one who obviously never picked up an American
history text, or at least never bothered to read the ones he was issued in
high school.

Jay Leno: "Who was Herbert Hoover?"
Bubbles: "The guy who invented the vacuum sweeper?"

Max

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

Capt. Rob wrote:


So, please tell us why we invaded IRAQ if Bush KNEW they had no WMDs.

In 1998 the Congress of the United States passed the "Iraqi
Liberation Act." This act was promoted and signed into law by
then President Clinton. This Act called for support of the INC
(Iraqi National Congress) and the removal of Saddam from power.
The Iraqi Liberation Act was enacted and was black letter law
long before President Bush was elected as President. President
Bush inherited this law, and the removal of Saddam had already
been mandated by the US Congress long before President Bush took
office.

In October 2001, the US Congress voted unanimously (save one
traitor from California) to resolve that "a state of war exists
between the USA and all international terrorists and all those
that aid or harbor terrorists." This Congressional resolution
provided President Bush with the individual power to determine
which entities and nations were either terrorists or aiding or
harboring terrorists, and further, granted President Bush
*exclusive* discretion to use the full weight of the US Military
to hunt down or otherwise eliminate any such designated enemies.


Saddam had developed his own terrorist faction called the
Fedayeen, and these terrorist goons surfaced during the invasion
of Iraq. These terrorists were not only responsible for murderous
attacks on coalition forces, they also were murdering Iraqis that
refused to fight and were further holding hostage the families of
Iraqi soldiers. In true radical Muslim style, these Fedayeen
terrorists also traveled around the Iraqi countryside
decapitating Iraqi women that had committed the unspeakable crime
of simply waiving at the coalition forces.

Saddam openly admitted and bragged about sending money and
arms to the Palestinian terrorist organizations known as Hamas,
PLO, and Islamic Jihad. All three of those terrorist
organizations have murdered Americans in the past, and are
well-known terrorist organizations.

On December 27, 2000, Saddam openly and publically declared
war on the United States, Britain and Israel. Saddam's
declaration of war occurred only ten months prior to the 911
massacres, and his declaration of war was carried on the front
pages of all the Baghdad newspapers, and on the front page of
most Arabic European newspapers. Under the articles of the Geneva
Convention, any nation in receipt of an official declaration of
war has a right to preemptively attack the nation that issued the
war declaration.

The USA and Britain not only had the legal right to invade Iraq
and depose Saddam due to the violation of not less than seventeen
UN Resolutions since the Gulf War, they also had the moral
authority and the ethical necessity to do so.

Joe



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There were probably others worse than Hoover. I forgot... the one who
supposedly looked so "presidential" that he was nominated because of his
looks. I can't remember the name at the moment. I believe his administration
was riddled with corruption. Then there was Grant. He was a terrible
president, again with a very corrupt administration, although he was a great
man.

Carter was terrible, but he's made up for it as one of the best
ex-presidents. Ford did nothing, and still does nothing. Personally, I liked
Reagan. I met him once while he was governor. It was hard not to like him,
although my politics at the time was a bit more left than they are now. :-)

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagon Tie for 3rd worst
Jimmy Carter was certainly a man of high standards, but his total lack
of experience lead to a 4 year stalemate for American politics. Reagan
was well loved and knew how to play the average American like a fiddle,
but he was a racist cowboy who attempted to destroy the melting pot
that was the very fabric and soul of America

George Bush Sr, 2nd worst
Compared to his son, Bush Sr. seems like a mild prototype of his son,
though he did embrace at least some republican values of merit.

George Bush Jr. Worst president of all time...so far
Started war over invented WMDs
9/11 occurs on his watch
Sits in class room while towers burn and Americans die
Admits Iraq is no threat a few months before starting war campaign. It's
on tape.
Uses OLD and VERY OLD intelligence dating back to early 90's to support
war.
Announced the worlds funniest coalition of support (with almost zero
military support).
Useless war generates the worst anti-American standard worldwide.
War claims the lives of thousands of Americans, civilians and children.
US forces are sent in without basic gear required and must scavenge for
it.
Bush opposes woman's right to choose.
Bush opposes stem cell research against massive public outcry to appease
his religious friends.
Bush denies secret prisons, torture and worse, then admits to it,
defying the basic principals on which this country was founded.
Bush allows big oil to gouge the American public and they don't even try
to hide the profits.

Congrats to our current president and his very few supporters.

Predictably composed by one who obviously never picked up an American
history text, or at least never bothered to read the ones he was issued in
high school.

Jay Leno: "Who was Herbert Hoover?"
Bubbles: "The guy who invented the vacuum sweeper?"

Max

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

Joe wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:


So, please tell us why we invaded IRAQ if Bush KNEW they had no WMDs.

In 1998 the Congress of the United States passed the "Iraqi
Liberation Act." This act was promoted and signed into law by
then President Clinton. This Act called for support of the INC
(Iraqi National Congress) and the removal of Saddam from power.
The Iraqi Liberation Act was enacted and was black letter law
long before President Bush was elected as President. President
Bush inherited this law, and the removal of Saddam had already
been mandated by the US Congress long before President Bush took
office.

In October 2001, the US Congress voted unanimously (save one
traitor from California) to resolve that "a state of war exists
between the USA and all international terrorists and all those
that aid or harbor terrorists." This Congressional resolution
provided President Bush with the individual power to determine
which entities and nations were either terrorists or aiding or
harboring terrorists, and further, granted President Bush
*exclusive* discretion to use the full weight of the US Military
to hunt down or otherwise eliminate any such designated enemies.


Saddam had developed his own terrorist faction called the
Fedayeen, and these terrorist goons surfaced during the invasion
of Iraq. These terrorists were not only responsible for murderous
attacks on coalition forces, they also were murdering Iraqis that
refused to fight and were further holding hostage the families of
Iraqi soldiers. In true radical Muslim style, these Fedayeen
terrorists also traveled around the Iraqi countryside
decapitating Iraqi women that had committed the unspeakable crime
of simply waiving at the coalition forces.

Saddam openly admitted and bragged about sending money and
arms to the Palestinian terrorist organizations known as Hamas,
PLO, and Islamic Jihad. All three of those terrorist
organizations have murdered Americans in the past, and are
well-known terrorist organizations.

On December 27, 2000, Saddam openly and publically declared
war on the United States, Britain and Israel. Saddam's
declaration of war occurred only ten months prior to the 911
massacres, and his declaration of war was carried on the front
pages of all the Baghdad newspapers, and on the front page of
most Arabic European newspapers. Under the articles of the Geneva
Convention, any nation in receipt of an official declaration of
war has a right to preemptively attack the nation that issued the
war declaration.

The USA and Britain not only had the legal right to invade Iraq
and depose Saddam due to the violation of not less than seventeen
UN Resolutions since the Gulf War, they also had the moral
authority and the ethical necessity to do so.

Joe

Hello? What....... no snappy comeback...

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What does this have to do with sailing?


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagon Tie for 3rd worst
Jimmy Carter was certainly a man of high standards, but his total lack
of experience lead to a 4 year stalemate for American politics. Reagan
was well loved and knew how to play the average American like a fiddle,
but he was a racist cowboy who attempted to destroy the melting pot
that was the very fabric and soul of America

George Bush Sr, 2nd worst
Compared to his son, Bush Sr. seems like a mild prototype of his son,
though he did embrace at least some republican values of merit.

George Bush Jr. Worst president of all time...so far
Started war over invented WMDs
9/11 occurs on his watch
Sits in class room while towers burn and Americans die
Admits Iraq is no threat a few months before starting war campaign. It's
on tape.
Uses OLD and VERY OLD intelligence dating back to early 90's to support
war.
Announced the worlds funniest coalition of support (with almost zero
military support).
Useless war generates the worst anti-American standard worldwide.
War claims the lives of thousands of Americans, civilians and children.
US forces are sent in without basic gear required and must scavenge for
it.
Bush opposes woman's right to choose.
Bush opposes stem cell research against massive public outcry to appease
his religious friends.
Bush denies secret prisons, torture and worse, then admits to it, defying
the basic principals on which this country was founded.
Bush allows big oil to gouge the American public and they don't even try
to hide the profits.

Congrats to our current president and his very few supporters.



RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Carter was terrible, but he's made up for it as one of the best
ex-presidents.

Until today when he crossed an unwritten line to avoid criticizing a sitting
president. Clinton has done this several times, but I believe this was
Carter's first occasion. While I agree with what he said, it opens the
floodgates for ex-presidents to rip on the incumbents. Not a healthy
precedent, and it lacks any semblance of class.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

All the truly great presidents were sailors.

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"BFan" wrote in message
news:982Og.11799$Tl4.6460@dukeread06...
What does this have to do with sailing?


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagon Tie for 3rd worst
Jimmy Carter was certainly a man of high standards, but his total lack
of experience lead to a 4 year stalemate for American politics. Reagan
was well loved and knew how to play the average American like a fiddle,
but he was a racist cowboy who attempted to destroy the melting pot
that was the very fabric and soul of America

George Bush Sr, 2nd worst
Compared to his son, Bush Sr. seems like a mild prototype of his son,
though he did embrace at least some republican values of merit.

George Bush Jr. Worst president of all time...so far
Started war over invented WMDs
9/11 occurs on his watch
Sits in class room while towers burn and Americans die
Admits Iraq is no threat a few months before starting war campaign. It's
on tape.
Uses OLD and VERY OLD intelligence dating back to early 90's to support
war.
Announced the worlds funniest coalition of support (with almost zero
military support).
Useless war generates the worst anti-American standard worldwide.
War claims the lives of thousands of Americans, civilians and children.
US forces are sent in without basic gear required and must scavenge for
it.
Bush opposes woman's right to choose.
Bush opposes stem cell research against massive public outcry to appease
his religious friends.
Bush denies secret prisons, torture and worse, then admits to it,
defying the basic principals on which this country was founded.
Bush allows big oil to gouge the American public and they don't even try
to hide the profits.

Congrats to our current president and his very few supporters.



RB
35s5
NY

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I didn't hear... what did he say?

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

Carter was terrible, but he's made up for it as one of the best
ex-presidents.

Until today when he crossed an unwritten line to avoid criticizing a
sitting president. Clinton has done this several times, but I believe
this was Carter's first occasion. While I agree with what he said, it
opens the floodgates for ex-presidents to rip on the incumbents. Not a
healthy precedent, and it lacks any semblance of class.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

Carter was terrible, but he's made up for it as one of the best
ex-presidents.


Actually Carter was a pretty good President. History is
appraising him more and more highly as time goes on.


Maxprop wrote:
Until today when he crossed an unwritten line to avoid criticizing a sitting
president. Clinton has done this several times, but I believe this was
Carter's first occasion. While I agree with what he said, it opens the
floodgates for ex-presidents to rip on the incumbents. Not a healthy
precedent, and it lacks any semblance of class.


Yeah. like any Bush/Cheney cheeleader is going to approve of
anything Carter ever does or says. Maybe if you didn't
constantly harp how he's personally two of the Axis of Evil,
this kind of statement might actually mean something.

Besides, plenty of former Presidents get involved in
politics. Look at some of George Bush Sr's statements about
Gore & Kerry. Look at what Eisenhower said about Nixon, and
they were members (in theory) of the same political party.

Partisanship is ugly and destructive. But apparently it's
the only semblance of real life some people have these days.

DSK

The Three Worst Presidents
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I didn't hear... what did he say?

Carter lambasted the president for "torturing" Islamic fascist prisoners.

Okay, okay, I'd have to agree that being forced to listen to Red Hot Chili
Peppers 24/7 might be a form of torture, but if it gets results . . .

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Carter was terrible, but he's made up for it as one of the best
ex-presidents.


Actually Carter was a pretty good President. History is appraising him
more and more highly as time goes on.

Ah, you like and approve of double-digit inflation? A slumping economy?

Whatever turns you on, Doug.



Maxprop wrote:
Until today when he crossed an unwritten line to avoid criticizing a
sitting president. Clinton has done this several times, but I believe
this was Carter's first occasion. While I agree with what he said, it
opens the floodgates for ex-presidents to rip on the incumbents. Not a
healthy precedent, and it lacks any semblance of class.


Yeah. like any Bush/Cheney cheeleader is going to approve of anything
Carter ever does or says. Maybe if you didn't constantly harp how he's
personally two of the Axis of Evil, this kind of statement might actually
mean something.

You're full of ****, Doug. I detest Bush. You are just too bound up in
your hatred of anything beyond the left wing to notice.

Besides, plenty of former Presidents get involved in politics. Look at
some of George Bush Sr's statements about Gore & Kerry.

Gore and Kerry were sitting presidents??? Or did you conveniently ignore
that aspect of my statement (above), same as you do most of my other
statements?

Look at what Eisenhower said about Nixon, and they were members (in theory)
of the same political party.

What did Ike say, and when? I don't recall anything, and I was here at the
time. I doubt if you were.


Partisanship is ugly and destructive. But apparently it's the only
semblance of real life some people have these days.

Partisanship can be very ugly. The country is divided, perhaps inexorably.
And people like you are as much a part of the problem as those you accuse of
being so. If you were non-partisan you'd be as accusatory of the left wing
as you are of the right wing. Nuf said.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

Actually Carter was a pretty good President. History is appraising him
more and more highly as time goes on.


Maxprop wrote:
Ah, you like and approve of double-digit inflation? A slumping economy?



About as much as I like the slumping economy, plus a war,
that we have now. But hey, we can't blame that on President
Bush, can we? No no, only Democratic Presidents are
responsible for the economy and then only when it's bad.

Carter accomplished a number of things, such as beginning to
wean the country from Big Oil... politically a bad move, and
he's still getting tarred & feathered for it.

Look up the conventional arms limitation treaty he put
thru... as responsible for the demise of the Soviet Union as
anything President Reagan did, and also gave the world a
decade of greater stability, less genocide, low-intensity
3rd world conflict, etc etc.




Yeah. like any Bush/Cheney cheeleader is going to approve of anything
Carter ever does or says.


You're full of ****, Doug.

Actually, I'm not.


.... I detest Bush.

Than why did you not only vote for him twice, but whine &
kick and call a lot of people names because they pointed out
that he's not doing a very good job running the country?

For that matter, why are you still doing it?

DSK

The Three Worst Presidents
 

Than why did you not only vote for him twice, but whine &
kick and call a lot of people names because they pointed out
that he's not doing a very good job running the country?

For that matter, why are you still doing it?



Now THAT'S a good question.


RB
35s5
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Of course, by that logic, Clinton did more for the economy that few other
presidents.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Carter was terrible, but he's made up for it as one of the best
ex-presidents.


Actually Carter was a pretty good President. History is appraising him
more and more highly as time goes on.

Ah, you like and approve of double-digit inflation? A slumping economy?

Whatever turns you on, Doug.



Maxprop wrote:
Until today when he crossed an unwritten line to avoid criticizing a
sitting president. Clinton has done this several times, but I believe
this was Carter's first occasion. While I agree with what he said, it
opens the floodgates for ex-presidents to rip on the incumbents. Not a
healthy precedent, and it lacks any semblance of class.


Yeah. like any Bush/Cheney cheeleader is going to approve of anything
Carter ever does or says. Maybe if you didn't constantly harp how he's
personally two of the Axis of Evil, this kind of statement might actually
mean something.

You're full of ****, Doug. I detest Bush. You are just too bound up in
your hatred of anything beyond the left wing to notice.

Besides, plenty of former Presidents get involved in politics. Look at
some of George Bush Sr's statements about Gore & Kerry.

Gore and Kerry were sitting presidents??? Or did you conveniently ignore
that aspect of my statement (above), same as you do most of my other
statements?

Look at what Eisenhower said about Nixon, and they were members (in
theory) of the same political party.

What did Ike say, and when? I don't recall anything, and I was here at
the time. I doubt if you were.


Partisanship is ugly and destructive. But apparently it's the only
semblance of real life some people have these days.

Partisanship can be very ugly. The country is divided, perhaps
inexorably. And people like you are as much a part of the problem as those
you accuse of being so. If you were non-partisan you'd be as accusatory
of the left wing as you are of the right wing. Nuf said.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Actually Carter was a pretty good President. History is appraising him
more and more highly as time goes on.


Maxprop wrote:
Ah, you like and approve of double-digit inflation? A slumping economy?



About as much as I like the slumping economy, plus a war, that we have
now. But hey, we can't blame that on President Bush, can we?

Can't address an issue head-on, can you? You always cite something the
opposition has done as vindication for the incompetence of your own party.
Has inflation ever come near the levels it did during Carter's
administration since he left office? Have interest rates hit the double
digits we experienced under his incompetent leadership?

No no, only Democratic Presidents are responsible for the economy and then
only when it's bad.

Carter accomplished a number of things, such as beginning to wean the
country from Big Oil...

Really? Wasn't terribly effective at it, was he. Can you cite something he
did that had lasting results?

politically a bad move, and he's still getting tarred & feathered for it.

Look up the conventional arms limitation treaty he put thru... as
responsible for the demise of the Soviet Union as anything President
Reagan did, and also gave the world a decade of greater stability, less
genocide, low-intensity 3rd world conflict, etc etc.

LOL. Of course all the myriad other factors that played a part in those
aspects of the years following his departure from the Oval Office were
inconsequential, right? He did walk on water, didn't he?


Yeah. like any Bush/Cheney cheeleader is going to approve of anything
Carter ever does or says.


You're full of ****, Doug.

Actually, I'm not.

From downwind it would appear you are.



.... I detest Bush.

Than why did you not only vote for him twice, but whine & kick and call a
lot of people names because they pointed out that he's not doing a very
good job running the country?

I changed my mind regarding the man subsquent to some things he's done in
office. Unlike you, I'm not an inflexible demagogue.


For that matter, why are you still doing it?

You haven't been paying attention, but that's not surprising, considering
your dogmatic view of everyone with whom you debate. I'm still a
libertarian with some conservative beliefs, but that hardly means I'm
supportive of the current administration. You are still a liberal, and I'll
always disagree with your beliefs, but, again, that hardly makes me
supportive of Bush.

You, OTOH, are still a trumpet for moveon.org.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Than why did you not only vote for him twice, but whine &
kick and call a lot of people names because they pointed out
that he's not doing a very good job running the country?

For that matter, why are you still doing it?



Now THAT'S a good question.

Ah, that's what I love to see--arch enemies (Doug and Bubbles) coming
together to combat the common foe. How refreshing.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Of course, by that logic, Clinton did more for the economy that few other
presidents.

Clinton presided over what might have been one of the most prosperous
economic times in our recent history.

Of course everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that the economy was
heading into the toilet during his last year or so.

Max

The Three Worst Presidents
 

100000 new cops on the street. Crime went down. Now it's back up again.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Actually Carter was a pretty good President. History is appraising him
more and more highly as time goes on.


Maxprop wrote:
Ah, you like and approve of double-digit inflation? A slumping economy?



About as much as I like the slumping economy, plus a war, that we have
now. But hey, we can't blame that on President Bush, can we?

Can't address an issue head-on, can you? You always cite something the
opposition has done as vindication for the incompetence of your own party.
Has inflation ever come near the levels it did during Carter's
administration since he left office? Have interest rates hit the double
digits we experienced under his incompetent leadership?

No no, only Democratic Presidents are responsible for the economy and
then only when it's bad.

Carter accomplished a number of things, such as beginning to wean the
country from Big Oil...

Really? Wasn't terribly effective at it, was he. Can you cite something
he did that had lasting results?

politically a bad move, and he's still getting tarred & feathered for it.

Look up the conventional arms limitation treaty he put thru... as
responsible for the demise of the Soviet Union as anything President
Reagan did, and also gave the world a decade of greater stability, less
genocide, low-intensity 3rd world conflict, etc etc.

LOL. Of course all the myriad other factors that played a part in those
aspects of the years following his departure from the Oval Office were
inconsequential, right? He did walk on water, didn't he?


Yeah. like any Bush/Cheney cheeleader is going to approve of anything
Carter ever does or says.


You're full of ****, Doug.

Actually, I'm not.

From downwind it would appear you are.



.... I detest Bush.

Than why did you not only vote for him twice, but whine & kick and call a
lot of people names because they pointed out that he's not doing a very
good job running the country?

I changed my mind regarding the man subsquent to some things he's done in
office. Unlike you, I'm not an inflexible demagogue.


For that matter, why are you still doing it?

You haven't been paying attention, but that's not surprising, considering
your dogmatic view of everyone with whom you debate. I'm still a
libertarian with some conservative beliefs, but that hardly means I'm
supportive of the current administration. You are still a liberal, and
I'll always disagree with your beliefs, but, again, that hardly makes me
supportive of Bush.

You, OTOH, are still a trumpet for moveon.org.

Max

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But, he was smart enough to think of a plan besides invade Iraq. Oops.. that
didn't work either.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Of course, by that logic, Clinton did more for the economy that few other
presidents.

Clinton presided over what might have been one of the most prosperous
economic times in our recent history.

Of course everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that the economy
was heading into the toilet during his last year or so.

Max

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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:15:55 +0000, Maxprop wrote:


Can't address an issue head-on, can you? You always cite something the
opposition has done as vindication for the incompetence of your own party.
Has inflation ever come near the levels it did during Carter's
administration since he left office? Have interest rates hit the double
digits we experienced under his incompetent leadership?

Incompetent leadership? Carter took the hard steps to defeat inflation.
Remember Paul Volcker?

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm

Ever since Carter all our Presidents have been promising us a free lunch.
I expect we are now seeing the bill that has been past due.

By the by, the US economy has performed slightly better under Democratic
administrations, than under Republican.

http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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100000 new cops on the street. Crime went down. Now it's back up again.

Actually it's not. And those cops are still on the street, for the most
part, excepting the normal attrition.

Now, night basketball--there was a stroke of brilliance. g

Max

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Hey Guys,

Many years ago, Tom Paine Said;
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He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from
oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that
will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine
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I do like the Idea as an American of helping others; not ruling them::
helping them.




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Ummm....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...e-summit_x.htm

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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100000 new cops on the street. Crime went down. Now it's back up again.

Actually it's not. And those cops are still on the street, for the most
part, excepting the normal attrition.

Now, night basketball--there was a stroke of brilliance. g

Max

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Jimmy Carter/Ronald Reagon Tie for 3rd worst
Jimmy Carter was certainly a man of high standards, but his total lack
of experience lead to a 4 year stalemate for American politics. Reagan
was well loved and knew how to play the average American like a fiddle,
but he was a racist cowboy who attempted to destroy the melting pot
that was the very fabric and soul of America

George Bush Sr, 2nd worst
Compared to his son, Bush Sr. seems like a mild prototype of his son,
though he did embrace at least some republican values of merit.

George Bush Jr. Worst president of all time...so far
Started war over invented WMDs
9/11 occurs on his watch
Sits in class room while towers burn and Americans die
Admits Iraq is no threat a few months before starting war campaign. It's on tape.
Uses OLD and VERY OLD intelligence dating back to early 90's to support war.
Announced the worlds funniest coalition of support (with almost zero military support).
Useless war generates the worst anti-American standard worldwide.
War claims the lives of thousands of Americans, civilians and children.
US forces are sent in without basic gear required and must scavenge for it.
Bush opposes woman's right to choose.
Bush opposes stem cell research against massive public outcry to appease his religious friends.
Bush denies secret prisons, torture and worse, then admits to it, defying the basic principals on which this country was founded.
Bush allows big oil to gouge the American public and they don't even try to hide the profits.

Congrats to our current president and his very few supporters.



RB
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NY

The worse Presidents were all Democrats.