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That's real classy Bob, Scouts' heart is broken and you

use
this to take a jab at Doug.



Scotty, take a pill. I wanted to hear what Scout had found

and he
honestly told us. Please don't turn every thread into a

troll.


too late, you swallowed the hook.

SV


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Capt. Rob wrote:
That's real classy Bob, Scouts' heart is broken and you use
this to take a jab at Doug.



Scotty, take a pill. I wanted to hear what Scout had found and he
honestly told us. Please don't turn every thread into a troll.

Scout, if you really like the boat, don't give up. I will add this
though: The response you got from Seaward is so awful and dumb, I'd
send it back to them and let them know you'd NEVER buy a new boat from
them. They should offer SOME support for thier boats no matter who the
owner is. When I bought the Beneteau they were very helpful in giving
me specs, part info and some history on my exact hull #.
Good luck...I hope it works out.


RB
35s5
NY


Rob,
They (Hake) actually came through for me (maybe). I heard from them on
the boat Frank has been mentioning in the Florida Panhandle. We need to
work out some details (such as adding HD batteries and an inverter for
AC at anchor). It actually looks like a better boat and Hake is doing
the inspection on it (former owner trading it in for the 32). Maybe I
got lucky this time.
And the rep from Hake took the time to let me know "we do have the
title for the boat" - woohoooo!
I'll keep you all posted. If this works out, I'll be in Florida as soon
as Hake is finished the work. Maybe I'll be sailing by October!
Scout

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You mentioned an asking price of $50k, yet on the
TrailerSalor site a dealer has a 2007 listed at $36k. What
am I missing?

Is the Fla. boat more or less money than the NY one?

Scotty


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Scotty,
The base (sail away) price of the 26RK is $36K. IF you want all the
options, they're gonna cost big bucks.
Scout


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You mentioned an asking price of $50k, yet on the
TrailerSalor site a dealer has a 2007 listed at $36k. What
am I missing?

Is the Fla. boat more or less money than the NY one?

Scotty




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Scotty,
Can you email me again so I can have the correct address? Every email I've
sent you for the last couple weeks has bounced back.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
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You mentioned an asking price of $50k, yet on the
TrailerSalor site a dealer has a 2007 listed at $36k. What
am I missing?

Is the Fla. boat more or less money than the NY one?

Scotty






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On 12 Sep 2006 10:04:44 -0700, "Scout" wrote:


Capt. Rob wrote:
That's real classy Bob, Scouts' heart is broken and you use
this to take a jab at Doug.



Scotty, take a pill. I wanted to hear what Scout had found and he
honestly told us. Please don't turn every thread into a troll.

Scout, if you really like the boat, don't give up. I will add this
though: The response you got from Seaward is so awful and dumb, I'd
send it back to them and let them know you'd NEVER buy a new boat from
them. They should offer SOME support for thier boats no matter who the
owner is. When I bought the Beneteau they were very helpful in giving
me specs, part info and some history on my exact hull #.
Good luck...I hope it works out.


RB
35s5
NY


Rob,
They (Hake) actually came through for me (maybe). I heard from them on
the boat Frank has been mentioning in the Florida Panhandle. We need to
work out some details (such as adding HD batteries and an inverter for
AC at anchor). It actually looks like a better boat and Hake is doing
the inspection on it (former owner trading it in for the 32). Maybe I
got lucky this time.
And the rep from Hake took the time to let me know "we do have the
title for the boat" - woohoooo!
I'll keep you all posted. If this works out, I'll be in Florida as soon
as Hake is finished the work. Maybe I'll be sailing by October!
Scout



Hey, great, hope it works out. My advice, take some time off and sail
the Panhandle area while you are down there before you drag it home.
Beautiful area and October is a great time to sail down there although
you will hit some days with very light winds.

Frank
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I wish I could Frank but this unplanned time off work couldn't happen at a
worse time. I'm taking a few days to get this done but I'm gonna have to pay
for it later! I can always go back later. If we do another Katrina trip to
Long Beach, Miss, maybe I'll pull the boat along!
Scout


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On 12 Sep 2006 10:04:44 -0700, "Scout" wrote:


Capt. Rob wrote:
That's real classy Bob, Scouts' heart is broken and you use
this to take a jab at Doug.



Scotty, take a pill. I wanted to hear what Scout had found and he
honestly told us. Please don't turn every thread into a troll.

Scout, if you really like the boat, don't give up. I will add this
though: The response you got from Seaward is so awful and dumb, I'd
send it back to them and let them know you'd NEVER buy a new boat from
them. They should offer SOME support for thier boats no matter who the
owner is. When I bought the Beneteau they were very helpful in giving
me specs, part info and some history on my exact hull #.
Good luck...I hope it works out.


RB
35s5
NY


Rob,
They (Hake) actually came through for me (maybe). I heard from them on
the boat Frank has been mentioning in the Florida Panhandle. We need to
work out some details (such as adding HD batteries and an inverter for
AC at anchor). It actually looks like a better boat and Hake is doing
the inspection on it (former owner trading it in for the 32). Maybe I
got lucky this time.
And the rep from Hake took the time to let me know "we do have the
title for the boat" - woohoooo!
I'll keep you all posted. If this works out, I'll be in Florida as soon
as Hake is finished the work. Maybe I'll be sailing by October!
Scout



Hey, great, hope it works out. My advice, take some time off and sail
the Panhandle area while you are down there before you drag it home.
Beautiful area and October is a great time to sail down there although
you will hit some days with very light winds.

Frank



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Thanks again Frank.
If this works out, I'll be hauling that boat from the Panhandle to South
Jersey and the Chesapeake!
Hake Engineering has come through with a great deal for me. The day appears
to be won!
Details to follow as the story unfolds : )
Scout

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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:32:01 -0400, "Scout"
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It looks like the deal on my Seaward is dead. Two significant occurrences
took place.

1. The small issue: The current owner informed me that he was keeping the
anchor, docking lines, and bumpers because he needs them for his "next
boat." It just seemed petty. I drove 8 hours to look at the boat, and felt
that that would have been a good time to let me know which things I was
inspecting weren't staying. More of a tell-tale, but no real big deal.
However, when someone is handing you a check for your asking price of
nearly $50K, is it then prudent to let the buyer know that you didn't mean
to imply that the necessary hardware stays with the boat?

2. The big issue: the current owner wants me to pay off his loan on the
boat and wait 2 weeks for the bank to clear the lien and produce the
title. I'm not big on finance but it didn't feel right to be in limbo for
2 weeks. Can I sail the boat? Get it insured? Since I am essentially
giving the current owner cash, I feel very vulnerable. I think he is an
honest guy but too much can happen in two weeks, and I don't have the time
or financial and legal expertise to make it work comfortably for me. I
know it can be done, but the physical miles between us and the small
details will surely become a burden.

Major bummer. Back to the Google Board! ****!

Scout



Too bad Scout.

The '04 located in the panhandle is still listed on the Seaward
brokerage site. A far piece away from you, but available. Read in
post below where you were not knocked out by their customer service.
Tell you the truth, I emailed them asking for some clarification of
displacement info on the engine options, and they never returned my
email. But I made their database because they now email me every time
a boat comes in brokerage.

At any rate if it is still there in October, I will possibly drop by
and look at it as I'm going to be in the area. As mentioned, don't
think it is right for me, but if you still have interest, will give
you my impression if you haven't moved on.

The listed boat may be the one I saw in St. Joe's Bay last spring.
Looked great under sail.

Frank



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Actually, #1 is a good indication that something is clearly strange. Keeping that stuff is silly. When I bought my boat, the owner kept "delivering" more stuff to the boat when it was in the yard. He would send me an email, saying that large box is not a bomb, or oh wait I forgot to give you.... happened several times.

Good call on not proceeding. #2 sounds fishy to me.

Don't worry, you'll find something even better.

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"Scout" wrote in message ...
It looks like the deal on my Seaward is dead. Two significant occurrences took place.

1. The small issue: The current owner informed me that he was keeping the anchor, docking lines, and bumpers because he needs them for his "next boat." It just seemed petty. I drove 8 hours to look at the boat, and felt that that would have been a good time to let me know which things I was inspecting weren't staying. More of a tell-tale, but no real big deal. However, when someone is handing you a check for your asking price of nearly $50K, is it then prudent to let the buyer know that you didn't mean to imply that the necessary hardware stays with the boat?

2. The big issue: the current owner wants me to pay off his loan on the boat and wait 2 weeks for the bank to clear the lien and produce the title. I'm not big on finance but it didn't feel right to be in limbo for 2 weeks. Can I sail the boat? Get it insured? Since I am essentially giving the current owner cash, I feel very vulnerable. I think he is an honest guy but too much can happen in two weeks, and I don't have the time or financial and legal expertise to make it work comfortably for me. I know it can be done, but the physical miles between us and the small details will surely become a burden.

Major bummer. Back to the Google Board! ****!

Scout
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Capt. JG" wrote
Don't worry, you'll find something even better.


Looks like you might be right Jon!
Scout





 
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