You haven't been hit by a train. Does that mean there are no trains?

"Joe" wrote in message
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Maybe...maybe not...the proff to me is we have not been attacked again,
and if you think they are not trying then you are blind.

We need to actually *fight* the terrorists, and what's more
we need to stop their recruiting/training pipeline that is
ramping up every day.

And how do we do that? pass out cash, appeasement, cut and run?
Shackle and muzzle the intell servies?

Not give in to the ways of the terrorist for one. Who is shackling the
intelligence services or even suggesting it? The point of intelligence is to
use it. Monitoring the phone calls of millions of Americans isn't very smart
or effective.


Terrorist like the 14 the CIA questioned? Or just the ones found
guilty after 3 yr trials that cost taxpayers millions?

So, you'r saying that you don't like our system of laws and government? We
have laws and procedure for a reason. We need to use them. All of the
"successes" we've had have been due to good intelligence not invading a
country that wasn't an "imminent" theat to us.

I would say that brains beat brawn, we are supposed to be
the hi-tech super-capable modern force, not the dumbo-macho
grab-a-big-hammer guys.


Super high tech like listening to telephone calls between terrorist
planners!!!

Oh come on... super high tech? What about the even better super, duper,
quasi-terabit quadrangle of piazo diaphram technology? :-)

Good lord...that would be illegal and not playing fair, the loss of
personal privacy is to important according to some.

It's a slippery slope from just a little bit of loss of our liberties in
exchange for questionable security to a full-blow police state.

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?


We have many enemies and they have many different goals.
Fortunately the terrorists are disorganized and illogical,
but we are not using that to our advantage other than just
by luck.

Luck or hard work? I have faith in the man on the ground and think
they are making the difference, not the politicians.

Then, by that logic, you don't trust Bush. Good! We're making progress!

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?


Those who attack regular military forces are not terrorists,
by definition.

This is the first place to get a little smarter:
Know your enemy... and I'd take the next step of actually
fighting the enemy, not merely killing large numbers of
random guys who look like they might be the enemy. Or if
that turns out to be the only practical way, killing very
very much larger numbers of them.

Ossama's Fatwa said the duty of all muslims is to kill all Americans.

Simple tactic's and goals. All out war. Who's making them fight fair?

If any serious muslim thought that, we would be in deep, deep trouble. 99%
of muslims are peaceful people who just want to live their lives.

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