Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe

I just got back from USA today on an American airline and I can see no way
anyone could have come aboard with liquids in hand baggage.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe

All they have to do is tape them to their legs. It's been publicised that
way on TV, and I'm sure other ways would work also. They could also put them
in the under-the-plane luggage, or send them via cargo, which isn't checked.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Edgar" wrote in message
. ..
I just got back from USA today on an American airline and I can see no way
anyone could have come aboard with liquids in hand baggage.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can
flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe

They checked I had nothing taped to my legs!
But the thing about liquids is that two people can come on separately, each
carrying one component which is in itself innocuous and then follow each
other into the toilet where the second one can make a lethal mixture.
In the luggage bay or cargo you would need a complete bomb and I hope they
have good checks for that.
I do wonder whether they check airside staff as rigorously as they do
passengers every time they sign in for work.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
All they have to do is tape them to their legs. It's been publicised that
way on TV, and I'm sure other ways would work also. They could also put
them
in the under-the-plane luggage, or send them via cargo, which isn't
checked.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Edgar" wrote in message
. ..
I just got back from USA today on an American airline and I can see no
way
anyone could have come aboard with liquids in hand baggage.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We
only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring
liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can
flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the
USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military
or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe

In your luggage under the plane, they don't check for that... only hard
weapons. In cargo, they don't check for anything.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Edgar" wrote in message
...
They checked I had nothing taped to my legs!
But the thing about liquids is that two people can come on separately,
each
carrying one component which is in itself innocuous and then follow each
other into the toilet where the second one can make a lethal mixture.
In the luggage bay or cargo you would need a complete bomb and I hope they
have good checks for that.
I do wonder whether they check airside staff as rigorously as they do
passengers every time they sign in for work.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
All they have to do is tape them to their legs. It's been publicised that
way on TV, and I'm sure other ways would work also. They could also put
them
in the under-the-plane luggage, or send them via cargo, which isn't
checked.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Edgar" wrote in message
. ..
I just got back from USA today on an American airline and I can see no
way
anyone could have come aboard with liquids in hand baggage.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our
chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We
only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring
liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can
flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the
USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military
or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe