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thunder wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:06:19 -0700, Joe wrote:


Besides funding mass murder, the attack of the USS Cole, we had the
intell and failed to act....


Uh, the attack on the USS Cole was on Oct. 12, 2000. Bush was elected a
month later, and he did what, exactly?

Uh..Clinton was president, what did he do besides pass the buck?

Joe

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I prefer off-track betting.

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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You haven't been hit by a train. Does that mean there are
no trains?


Jon, try to stay on track, will ya?





Monitoring the phone calls of millions of Americans isn't
very smart
or effective.


Unless one of those ''Americans'' gives up some vital info.

So, it is then ok in your opinion to monitor the calls of millions of
American on the chance that one of those conversations is between two
terrorists. Do you really think that's the best way to gather intelligence..
listening to some mom gripe about her 8 year old? Don't you think that it
would be more productive to actually intelligently profile the people we're
looking for? I guess not.

personal privacy is to important according to some.

It's a slippery slope from just a little bit of loss of
our liberties in
exchange for questionable security to a full-blow police
state.


Kinda like gun control, no? Oh wait, the libs are *for* gun
control.

Gun control? You're damn right I'm for gun control. I don't see any reason
for people to have dozens of semi-automatic weapons that are unlocked and
unregistered and easy to buy with no background checks by people who have no
idea how to actually use them. We make people take a test for car and truck
driving don't we?

Then, by that logic, you don't trust Bush. Good! We're
making progress!


I don't trust ANY politician, do you?

Certainly not. But, there are some here who actually believe what Bush says.

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While he was getting the blowjob in question, he was talking gov't business
on the phone with a Congressman.

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Capt. JG wrote:
Bush never even saw the ball. He and his "advisers" were warned
repeatedly
before they took office about the threat. Bush went on vacation a lot.
That
was his response.

Well Clinton was really on the ball.., slapping off Monica's chin.. but
that's about it.

Joe



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DSK wrote:
How about the PROOF that we had not been attacked for the 8
years before Sept 11th, 2001? That indicates to me that
Clinton was doing a much better job.


Joe wrote:
Guess the sailors on the USS Cole don't count in your opinion?
The Embassy's in Africxa....non-issues right?


Oh, I thought you meant against Americans, in America.

American ships are American terriorty, as are our embassy's.
Clinton dropped the ball, so did Bush.

Joe


DSK

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Nothing. Even though he was urged to respond by the previous administration.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:06:19 -0700, Joe wrote:


Besides funding mass murder, the attack of the USS Cole, we had the
intell and failed to act....


Uh, the attack on the USS Cole was on Oct. 12, 2000. Bush was elected a
month later, and he did what, exactly?

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Ossama's Fatwa said the duty of all muslims is to kill all Americans.

Substitute 'infidels' for 'Americans' in your post and you get the full
scale of the problem.
However he does have a special dislike of 'American infidels' due, it
seems, to the scale of US involvement in his native land , Saudi Arabia and
US support for Israel.

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I just got back from USA today on an American airline and I can see no way
anyone could have come aboard with liquids in hand baggage.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe

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All they have to do is tape them to their legs. It's been publicised that
way on TV, and I'm sure other ways would work also. They could also put them
in the under-the-plane luggage, or send them via cargo, which isn't checked.

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"Edgar" wrote in message
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I just got back from USA today on an American airline and I can see no way
anyone could have come aboard with liquids in hand baggage.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Joe, a trained monkey could do a better job. We've not secured our chem
plants, our railway/commuter system, or our containerized cargo. We only
inspect 5% of the latter. We can't even prevent people from bring liquids
onto planes if they get just the least bit creative about it.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Lets focus on winning the war, so science and education can
flourish
for everyone.


I agree, let's focus on winning the war. When are we going
to start fighting terrorists again?

DSK

You tell me?

Can Hillary do a better job?

I'm all for it Doug...tell me who, and how they can do a better job?

Think Kerry could have done better?

Keep in mind the terrorist have tried many more time to attack the USA
and all plots have been foiled.

Do we need to fight a kinder, a more gentle war?
If we do, will they be nicer and kinder too?

Can you explain Global Jihad, and the goal of our enemy?

Do they see any difference of a citizen and someone in the military or
have they sworn just to kill us all equally?

Joe

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Try to kill Bin Laden by firing missles into their camps. Unfortunately,
there was a lot of resistance on the part of Republicans in Congress about
doing much else.

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thunder wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:06:19 -0700, Joe wrote:


Besides funding mass murder, the attack of the USS Cole, we had the
intell and failed to act....


Uh, the attack on the USS Cole was on Oct. 12, 2000. Bush was elected a
month later, and he did what, exactly?

Uh..Clinton was president, what did he do besides pass the buck?

Joe

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"Joe" wrote...
Ossama's Fatwa said the duty of all muslims is to kill all Americans.


Edgar wrote:
Substitute 'infidels' for 'Americans' in your post and you get the full
scale of the problem.
However he does have a special dislike of 'American infidels' due, it
seems, to the scale of US involvement in his native land , Saudi Arabia and
US support for Israel.


Just because he's a whacko doesn't mean that anybody should
listen to him... that fact that he is a well-financed whacko
who knows how to appeal to the prejudices of a large segment
of the population makes him dangerous. The single most
effective thing President Bush could have done, IMHO, is to
have captured Osama Bin Laden as promptly as possible, and
put him trial while treating him as just another
law-breaker. Giving him any special status just helps his
insane cause.

Meanwhile we should also be running a counter-campaign
telling all the Muslim populations around the Middle East
and Asia that Osama Bin Laden likes to screw underage girls
(he has married several as young as 14), that he drank &
gambled & partied back in his wild young days, that the Sept
11th attack was largely intended to force U.S. stocks to
drop sharply so that he could make a killing selling short,
and that he & his top lieutenants like to kick back over a
ham sandwhich & beer while they discuss how to dupe poor
Muslims children into blowing themselves up for OBL's glory.

We should have similar publicity campaigns against the
leaders of Hezbollah & Iran & the tribal heirarchy in what
used to be called Baluchistan.

Instead we are ****ing away lives & tremendous amount of
money for the sake of Halliburton's profits.

However I am glad to hear you say that they seem to be able
to keep improvised liquid explosives off airliners these
days. I guess it was just luck... and the stupidity of
terrorists... that no attack along these lines has taken
place in the past.

Regards
Doug King

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Scotty wrote:
I don't trust ANY politician, do you?


If President Nixon hadn't come along during my formative
years, I might.

DSK