Gilligan wrote:
Which is the stronger suit for sailors?

Why?

Best is one who transitions from thinking to feeling. With practice and
time on the helm you become competent with out thinking.

Any new boat you will have to think thru every action and re-action,
until it becomes second nature.

Joe

Which is the stronger suit for sailors?



Let's be honest here....most of you are just plain ruled by
"stupidity."


RB
35s5
NY

Nutsy,

Even the Stupid have Thoughts and Feeling; as you are constantly
demonstrating for the group!




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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Which is the stronger suit for sailors?



Let's be honest here....most of you are just plain ruled
by
"stupidity."


that would still be more desirable than being ruled by
dishonesty, as you are.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

Scott,

I have a different address for you than the one that's showing on the
list. Which one should I use `Off Line' ?

I added a picture to my Signature Page while posting with Katy and I
wanted to send one to you,

Anyway, check out the last picture in my signature. It's for Dog loving
Sailors.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Seen it. Thanks. I emailed you my address.

Scotty



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Scott,

I have a different address for you than the one that's
showing on the
list. Which one should I use `Off Line' ?

I added a picture to my Signature Page while posting with
Katy and I
wanted to send one to you,

Anyway, check out the last picture in my signature. It's
for Dog loving
Sailors.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Joe wrote:
Gilligan wrote:

Which is the stronger suit for sailors?

Why?


Best is one who transitions from thinking to feeling. With practice and
time on the helm you become competent with out thinking.

Any new boat you will have to think thru every action and re-action,
until it becomes second nature.

Joe


Joe,
This is really about the process of going from conscious competence -
to unconscious incompetence - to unconscious competence - a learning
process that allows unconscious thinking (accompanied by appropriate
motor responses) instead of having to always do the action consciously.
This is also the process of developing *habit* - when unconscious
competence (for some select behavior) is practiced enough, the brain
continues to carry out the behavior kind of like on autopilot.
All of this can be carried out with, or without any particular
"feeling", although strong negative feelings accompanying a particular
behavior tends to develop a habit quicker and stronger.
Any *feeling* that usually accompanies a particular conscious
behavior, will usually also accompany the resultant unconscious
behavior. In addition, there can be a *feeling* of 'this feels wrong' or
'this feels right' while consciously carrying out an unconsciously
generated behavior, which is actually communication about conflict or
agreement by your unconscious to the available incoming evidence.

I hope this clears that up...

Bonzo wrote:
Joe wrote:
Gilligan wrote:

Which is the stronger suit for sailors?

Why?


Best is one who transitions from thinking to feeling. With practice and
time on the helm you become competent with out thinking.

Any new boat you will have to think thru every action and re-action,
until it becomes second nature.

Joe


Joe,
This is really about the process of going from conscious competence -
to unconscious incompetence - to unconscious competence - a learning
process that allows unconscious thinking (accompanied by appropriate
motor responses) instead of having to always do the action consciously.
This is also the process of developing *habit* - when unconscious
competence (for some select behavior) is practiced enough, the brain
continues to carry out the behavior kind of like on autopilot.
All of this can be carried out with, or without any particular
"feeling", although strong negative feelings accompanying a particular
behavior tends to develop a habit quicker and stronger.
Any *feeling* that usually accompanies a particular conscious
behavior, will usually also accompany the resultant unconscious
behavior. In addition, there can be a *feeling* of 'this feels wrong' or
'this feels right' while consciously carrying out an unconsciously
generated behavior, which is actually communication about conflict or
agreement by your unconscious to the available incoming evidence.

I hope this clears that up...

Excellent explaination Bonzo,

Someone who wants to master a vessel, or really anything will journey
thru this 4 step process.

Step 1. unconsciously incompetant
Step 2. consciously incompetant
Step 3. consciously competant
Step 4. unconsciously compentant

Would you like to explain each step in detail... so we all have a clear
picture?

Joe

I like it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
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Bonzo wrote:
Joe wrote:
Gilligan wrote:

Which is the stronger suit for sailors?

Why?


Best is one who transitions from thinking to feeling. With practice and
time on the helm you become competent with out thinking.

Any new boat you will have to think thru every action and re-action,
until it becomes second nature.

Joe


Joe,
This is really about the process of going from conscious competence -
to unconscious incompetence - to unconscious competence - a learning
process that allows unconscious thinking (accompanied by appropriate
motor responses) instead of having to always do the action consciously.
This is also the process of developing *habit* - when unconscious
competence (for some select behavior) is practiced enough, the brain
continues to carry out the behavior kind of like on autopilot.
All of this can be carried out with, or without any particular
"feeling", although strong negative feelings accompanying a particular
behavior tends to develop a habit quicker and stronger.
Any *feeling* that usually accompanies a particular conscious
behavior, will usually also accompany the resultant unconscious
behavior. In addition, there can be a *feeling* of 'this feels wrong' or
'this feels right' while consciously carrying out an unconsciously
generated behavior, which is actually communication about conflict or
agreement by your unconscious to the available incoming evidence.

I hope this clears that up...

Excellent explaination Bonzo,

Someone who wants to master a vessel, or really anything will journey
thru this 4 step process.

Step 1. unconsciously incompetant
Step 2. consciously incompetant
Step 3. consciously competant
Step 4. unconsciously compentant

Would you like to explain each step in detail... so we all have a clear
picture?

Joe

Joe wrote:
Excellent explaination Bonzo,

Someone who wants to master a vessel, or really anything will journey
thru this 4 step process.

Step 1. unconsciously incompetant
Step 2. consciously incompetant
Step 3. consciously competant
Step 4. unconsciously compentant

Would you like to explain each step in detail... so we all have a
clear picture?

Joe

Hey Joe sorry it took so long to respond, I'm just catching up to these
older posts.

The correct step listing would be:
1. Conscious incompetence - you just learned to tie your shoe, but your
not good at it yet.
2. Conscious competence - after practice you are good at tying your
shoe, but you still have to think about each step.
3. Unconscious incompetence - you know you are getting better at tying
your shoe because you don't have to think about it much.
4. Unconscious Competence - you can tie your shoe in the morning while
simultaneously talking on the phone to yer pal about your *first time in
the saddle with Katy last night* and still get it right.
Bonzo