Poor Mooron... what happened? Got thrown off another account, so you have to
use someone else's? Why don't you blame me again. You're really quite
pathetic.

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"silverback" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Sorry to disagree Oz, but even at anchor a proper watch is important. :-)

Oh good Grief you even sail like a Gaylord!!!!!

Proper watch at anchor...Bwhahahahahahahaahaaaaa!!!

CM-

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I cannot understand why anyone would have taken Bob's
"scenario" as anything
more than an excercise to spur debate. Everyone knows his
lack of skill with
navigation. He has claimed so himself. Everyone knows he
never sails at
night... [ever since he got lost and confused at a well
lit harbour
enterence one dark and dreary evening.] The obvious
telltale was that he
made himself the "hero" in this scenario. [Nevermind that
no mention of such
an incident had ever been reported]

You folks need to lighten up a little....... you wasted
an obvious chance
to render a sound thrashing to Capt Rob due to some
unreasoned thinking that
this post had any truth to it at all. He's hooked the
bunch of you once
again with little to no effort. Ozone saw right through
it.... so did I.




i dion't think anyone here, besides the newbie, believed any
of it from the git go.




Anyway.... I'm back to work today. I have a long drive to
Cape Breton. Once
again working at Cape Breton Highlands National Park. It's
turning to fall
and the leaves should provide me some amazing colour for
photography.


Why are you working on a holiday?

Scotty

He had me fooled.


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On 3 Sep 2006 07:10:45 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


What you need now is to get off your boat and hook up with someone who
has the experience to mentor you.



Actually, Ozzy....this little troll arouse out of a discussion with a
42 year cruising veteran while sailing his Tartan 37 last week at
night. He had owned a Cape Dory 33 that collided with a half sunk
finger pier that had broken off somewhere...caught some serious damage.
Sailing at night and alone, there was very little he could have done to
avoid it, UNLESS he was standing on the sprit with a 30'000 watt light!


It was a half moon on August 31st when you had your imaginary collision.

I was also quite surprised that you were standing on the cabin top and
struck an
object while you were going 7 knots, and you were not thrown off the boat.
NO
mention of PFD or being tied in? You were single handing at night without
a PFD
and tether?

When you heard screaming and felt it neccesary to climb onto the cabin top
to
investigate, why were you still going full speed?

There were errors in almost every sentence you wrote. NOt just errors of
what
you did wrong, but errors that made the whole account suspect.

CWM

I doubt Bob comprehends the basic abilities of his electronic
navigation
instruments.

I get plenty of use out of the Ipod!


My radar can and has picked up a 5 gallon bucket at 200 meters.


My radar is still in the closet (like Ganzy) and I can't tell you how
many boats were lost this season to bucket impacts.


I cannot understand why anyone would have taken Bob's "scenario" as
anything
more than an excercise to spur debate.


Because they're my bitches?


Everyone knows his lack of skill with
navigation. He has claimed so himself. Everyone knows he never sails at

night

Not true. I just don't bother to take many pics of our night sails. We
usually start our sails late in the day and return after dark most of
the time.

... [ever since he got lost and confused at a well lit harbour
enterence one dark and dreary evening.]

Wow....well lit AND dark and dreary. That's the same harbor the NE
Cruising guide warns is tricky at night, folks.


The obvious telltale was that he
made himself the "hero" in this scenario.


Now you're thinking!!!


You folks need to lighten up a little.......


Now that IS funny!


you wasted an obvious chance
to render a sound thrashing to Capt Rob due to some unreasoned thinking
that
this post had any truth to it at all.


Amazing though, hmmmm?

He's hooked the bunch of you once
again with little to no effort. Ozone saw right through it.... so did
I.


But you always get jelous and take the bait anyway, Mooron.


.... and Bob.... a fricken Dory is a "Type" of boat that some
dickweed
decided to use for a brand in your region.


There is no "brand" Dory that I know of accept Cape Dory. I made that
up.


If you don't explain the type of
vessel and use a brand name instead.... it's just poor formulation.


Which is the barb on the hook.


Maybe you should have stated a sailboat was
hit by a large motorboat.


Vas ya dere, Charlie?


I spent the weekend sailing the South Western shore. No sounder no
compass
no GPS.

Blew the budget on that camera, eh?

Overproof performed
really well.

Uhhh...okay. That's nice.


I'll try and load up some photos I took with the Nikon D200. [Yes
Bob... I take my camera out sailing with me.]

The D200 has weather sealing, but in anything but calm weather, it's
best to swap lenses below or in a bag. You might also invest in a
Pelican case for it so it's moisture levels are typically constant.
Should you strike a Dory being towed by a trawler, it'll also float!

And you thought I'd never answer your post!


RB
35s5
NY

Bob, no one who has ever actually been to Port Jeff at night would
call it
tricky.


Sorry to disagree, but we came into port Jeff on a stormy night. The
angle of entrance can be hard to judge, especially if you're coming
from the East and wasn't there before. One of the ladies I sail with
took her Bristol 30 there two weeks ago and also made a pass before she
worked out the entrance. Each light is on the tip of a long slender bit
of land that can be invisible at night. We couldn't see them at all
that night. The NE Cruising guide makes comments, such as the one about
Port Jeff at night, based on many comments from folks who sail the
area. Obviously a few people thought it worthwhile to take care at the
entrance. You also need to watch for considerable traffic (and the
ferry) at times.
After we made our pass and observed the deal on the radar as well, we
entered with no problem. I wouldn't describe our entering of Port Jeff
as problematic. At night it's best to be sure before entering a new
area. If Mooron thinks otherwise that's fine. He can sail his boat
(rarely) as he pleases.


RB
35s5
NY

Come on Charlie, it was a dark and stormy night... :-)

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 6 Sep 2006 05:52:48 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Bob, no one who has ever actually been to Port Jeff at night would
call it
tricky.


Sorry to disagree, but we came into port Jeff on a stormy night. The
angle of entrance can be hard to judge, especially if you're coming
from the East and wasn't there before. One of the ladies I sail with
took her Bristol 30 there two weeks ago and also made a pass before she
worked out the entrance. Each light is on the tip of a long slender bit
of land that can be invisible at night. We couldn't see them at all
that night. The NE Cruising guide makes comments, such as the one about
Port Jeff at night, based on many comments from folks who sail the
area. Obviously a few people thought it worthwhile to take care at the
entrance. You also need to watch for considerable traffic (and the
ferry) at times.
After we made our pass and observed the deal on the radar as well, we
entered with no problem. I wouldn't describe our entering of Port Jeff
as problematic. At night it's best to be sure before entering a new
area. If Mooron thinks otherwise that's fine. He can sail his boat
(rarely) as he pleases.


RB
35s5
NY

Your original story said nothing about being stormy, but did say it
was something like 2 in the morning. Not much traffic at that hour!
Ferries stop running at 9 PM in the summer, and it is still light out
at that time.

You also said you sailed back and forth several times trying to figure
it out. Once again, it's a well marked, well lit approach. There's
really nothing tricky about it if you had a chart. There are a set of
red and green flashing buoy's outside, (the red is also a bell) ,
followed by very substantial flashing towers (30 footers!) marking the
actual opening. It's like an illuminated runway at the airport
welcoming you. The smoke stacks with red flashers at the head are
another obvious reference point for figuring out your position. On a
clear summer night, you can see them from New Haven Harbor quite
easily. :')


CWM

Your original story said nothing about being stormy,


It was. In fact we skirted T-storms the whole way and the entrance was
very choppy.


but did say it
was something like 2 in the morning.


Yup, very late and we were very tired.

Not much traffic at that hour!

Actually there was a quite a bit of traffic as we went through.

Ferries stop running at 9 PM in the summer, and it is still light
out
at that time.

The ferry was sleeping.

You also said you sailed back and forth several times trying to
figure
it out.

I sail past the entrance, the came back around, overshot it a bit and
went through. Technically I guess that's several times.

Once again, it's a well marked, well lit approach.

It was very dark. Our C&C was bouncing around in the chop. We were
tired. We wanted to be safe. We were.

There's
really nothing tricky about it if you had a chart.

We had charts, GPS and radar.

There are a set of
red and green flashing buoy's outside, (the red is also a bell)

Yep,


followed by very substantial flashing towers (30 footers!) marking
the
actual opening.

They were not operating at the time. Let me know if they are now.


he smoke stacks with red flashers at the head are
another obvious reference point for figuring out your position.

Yep.

On a
clear summer night, you can see them from New Haven Harbor quite
easily. :')

It was quite clear the next morning.



RB
35s5
NY