Spoken like someone who has done little if any sailing or even
motoring at night......Sorry Bob


Sorry, Ozzy. But anyone who spoke of "keeping a proper watch" on the
LIS in the conditions I described is a fool.
Absolutely no one sails with a high power spotlight blaring off the bow
at night in such a fashion that they could avoid such an accident. NO
ONE. And certainly not singlehanding. We have sailing vessels from all
over the world passing through the LIS at night and I've rarely, IF
EVER, saw one with a big light shining off the bow looking for
semi-submerged objects.
I've exposed the so-called sailors here once again.


No, really, I have.



RB
35s5
NY

Sorry to disagree Oz, but even at anchor a proper watch is important. :-)

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On 2 Sep 2006 18:15:14 -0700, "Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:


Spoken like someone who has done little if any sailing or even
motoring at night......Sorry Bob


Sorry, Ozzy. But anyone who spoke of "keeping a proper watch" on the
LIS in the conditions I described is a fool.

Bob, If you're not keeping a proper watch.....you should be at anchor!

Absolutely no one sails with a high power spotlight blaring off the bow
at night in such a fashion that they could avoid such an accident. NO
ONE.

Tell me Bob, what is it that makes you think keeping a proper watch
has anything to do with high poweed spotlights?


And certainly not singlehanding. We have sailing vessels from all
over the world passing through the LIS at night and I've rarely, IF
EVER, saw one with a big light shining off the bow looking for
semi-submerged objects.

There ya go....they must know more than you appear to...

I've exposed the so-called sailors here once again.

No Bob, you've once again shown that you have a great deal to learn.
but don't worrry...you are learning.

What you need now is to get off your boat and hook up with someone who
has the experience to mentor you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

What you need now is to get off your boat and hook up with someone who
has the experience to mentor you.



Actually, Ozzy....this little troll arouse out of a discussion with a
42 year cruising veteran while sailing his Tartan 37 last week at
night. He had owned a Cape Dory 33 that collided with a half sunk
finger pier that had broken off somewhere...caught some serious damage.
Sailing at night and alone, there was very little he could have done to
avoid it, UNLESS he was standing on the sprit with a 30'000 watt light!
People sail at night. You can't see everything in the water at night
and sometimes there are accidents. And that's that.
Troll's over, Ozzy. Sorry you were a casuality.

Going sailing today...if we get some wind!


RB
35s5
NY

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
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That's pretty disgusting joking about gruesome death. What
kinda man does something like this?

A stupid one with no class.

Scotty

Bob is still alive.

"Scotty" wrote in message . ..
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| "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
| message
| reenews.ne
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| That's pretty disgusting joking about gruesome death. What
| kinda man does something like this?
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| A stupid one with no class.
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| Scotty

For sure, a stupid ass.

Cheers,
Ellen

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...

What you need now is to get off your boat and hook up with someone who
has the experience to mentor you.



Actually, Ozzy....this little troll arouse out of a discussion with a
42 year cruising veteran while sailing his Tartan 37 last week at
night. He had owned a Cape Dory 33 that collided with a half sunk
finger pier that had broken off somewhere...caught some serious damage.
Sailing at night and alone, there was very little he could have done to
avoid it, UNLESS he was standing on the sprit with a 30'000 watt light!
People sail at night. You can't see everything in the water at night
and sometimes there are accidents. And that's that.
Troll's over, Ozzy. Sorry you were a casuality.

Going sailing today...if we get some wind!


RB
35s5
NY


There is a relatively inexpensive sonar system that can detect such things.
It is used primarily to detect swimmers (sabateours) around naval vessels.

"Krusty Morgan" wrote in

It was a half moon on August 31st when you had your
imaginary collision.

I was also quite surprised that you were standing on the
cabin top and struck an
object while you were going 7 knots, and you were not
thrown off the boat. NO
mention of PFD or being tied in? You were single handing
at night without a PFD
and tether?

When you heard screaming and felt it neccesary to climb
onto the cabin top to
investigate, why were you still going full speed?

There were errors in almost every sentence you wrote. NOt
just errors of what
you did wrong, but errors that made the whole account
suspect.


the account is suspect?? hoo boy, what an idiot!
Way to keep up there, asswipe.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Sorry to disagree Oz, but even at anchor a proper watch is important. :-)

Oh good Grief you even sail like a Gaylord!!!!!

Proper watch at anchor...Bwhahahahahahahaahaaaaa!!!

CM-

OzOne wrote in message

Bob, If you're not keeping a proper watch.....you should be at anchor!

I doubt Bob comprehends the basic abilities of his electronic navigation
instruments. My radar can and has picked up a 5 gallon bucket at 200 meters.
Even deadheads or other floating obtructions can occur at night. This fact
is paramount to keep in mind when night sailing. Often times it's not
mandatory to maintain a phyisical presence at the bow. Just an occasional
look out and use of wide diameter binoculars to aid in light collection can
be of great value. Knowing where you are and where other vessels are in
relation to your position is mandatory. This can only be accomplished with
radar and monitoring the radio as well as a manned look-out.

I cannot understand why anyone would have taken Bob's "scenario" as anything
more than an excercise to spur debate. Everyone knows his lack of skill with
navigation. He has claimed so himself. Everyone knows he never sails at
night... [ever since he got lost and confused at a well lit harbour
enterence one dark and dreary evening.] The obvious telltale was that he
made himself the "hero" in this scenario. [Nevermind that no mention of such
an incident had ever been reported]

You folks need to lighten up a little....... you wasted an obvious chance
to render a sound thrashing to Capt Rob due to some unreasoned thinking that
this post had any truth to it at all. He's hooked the bunch of you once
again with little to no effort. Ozone saw right through it.... so did I.


..... and Bob.... a fricken Dory is a "Type" of boat that some dickweed
decided to use for a brand in your region. If you don't explain the type of
vessel and use a brand name instead.... it's just poor formulation.
Secondly.... a "Trawler" is a fishing vessel. Despite the name being used to
describe a type of live-aboard cruising yacht design.... if you claim a
vessel was hit by a trawler it would be taken to be fishing boat by anyone
with any sea experience. If you claim that the vessel which was hit was a
"Dory"... that would indicate it to be a wooden rowing boat used by
fishermen off the Grand Banks! Maybe you should have stated a sailboat was
hit by a large motorboat.

I spent the weekend sailing the South Western shore. No sounder no compass
no GPS. All line of site and the winds were excellent. Overproof performed
really well. We had a wonderful overnighter on the hook behind Zwicker's
Island. I'll try and load up some photos I took with the Nikon D200. [Yes
Bob... I take my camera out sailing with me.]

Anyway.... I'm back to work today. I have a long drive to Cape Breton. Once
again working at Cape Breton Highlands National Park. It's turning to fall
and the leaves should provide me some amazing colour for photography.

Later All

CM