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Capt. JG September 1st 06 04:29 AM

new boat
 
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30, Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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Scout September 1st 06 12:08 PM

new boat
 
Excellent Jon, excellent!
Sail on!
Scout

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great
shape. I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks,
but there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com






Joe September 1st 06 01:28 PM

new boat
 

Wow..... nice boat Jon, not gay at all :0)

Joe







Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30, Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Scotty September 1st 06 02:43 PM

new boat
 
Now *that's* a nice boat!

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat.

She's a Sabre 30, Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's

in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of

weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then

me single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com






Thom Stewart September 1st 06 03:25 PM

new boat
 
NICE BOAT; Jon,

Good luck with her.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


DSK September 1st 06 05:01 PM

new boat
 
Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30, Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.


Good pick!

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/


Looks to me like you are already getting a lot of
satisfaction out of this excellent boat.



The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)


That will be nice if any basketball players decide to take a
nap there.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


x September 1st 06 05:03 PM

new boat
 
Pretty Boat. Good choice Jon and good luck with her.

"Capt. JG" wrote

I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great
shape. I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks,
but there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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www.sailnow.com






Capt. JG September 1st 06 07:07 PM

new boat
 
Darn it. Mooron will be disappointed.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Wow..... nice boat Jon, not gay at all :0)

Joe







Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





katy September 1st 06 07:32 PM

new boat
 
Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30, Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

Good for you, Jon. Sabre's are nice boats. May you have years of
emjoyment sailing her.

Capt. JG September 1st 06 07:43 PM

new boat
 
Tanks, I appreciate the thought.... :-)

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great
shape. I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks,
but there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

Good for you, Jon. Sabre's are nice boats. May you have years of
emjoyment sailing her.




Jeff September 1st 06 09:07 PM

new boat
 
Congratulations, that's a "proper yacht"!

Here's the sales brochu
http://www.sabreyachts.com/pdf/S30-Series-2.pdf



Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30, Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)


Capt. JG September 1st 06 09:39 PM

new boat
 
Thanks... already got the brochure. :-)

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Congratulations, that's a "proper yacht"!

Here's the sales brochu
http://www.sabreyachts.com/pdf/S30-Series-2.pdf



Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great
shape. I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks,
but there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)




Paladin September 1st 06 11:07 PM

new boat
 


Looks old, tired and down on her LWL. Did you have a moisture check done
on the hull? Hope you put some money aside for getting her up to par.

Paladin


"Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
|I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30, Mark
| II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great shape.
| I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks, but
| there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.
|
| Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me single-handing
| to her new home in Richmond, CA.
|
| http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
| http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/
|
| The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)
|
| --
| "j" ganz @@
| www.sailnow.com
|
|
|

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Scotty September 2nd 06 12:10 AM

new boat
 
But still angry.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Darn it. Mooron will be disappointed.




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"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com..
..

Wow..... nice boat Jon, not gay at all :0)

Joe







Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat.

She's a Sabre 30,
Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems,

she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple

of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty

easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and

then me
single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com







Capt. JG September 2nd 06 12:20 AM

new boat
 
Tis not for me to judge others but only observe.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
But still angry.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Darn it. Mooron will be disappointed.




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"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com..
.

Wow..... nice boat Jon, not gay at all :0)

Joe







Capt. JG wrote:
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat.

She's a Sabre 30,
Mark
II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems,

she's in great shape.
I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple

of weeks, but
there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty

easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and

then me
single-handing
to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com








Capt. JG September 2nd 06 12:21 AM

new boat
 
You have to understand that when one is stupid or drunk, one can see things
others don't.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:07:21 -0400, "Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www
wrote:



Looks old, tired and down on her LWL.


The pictures of the boat in the water show the bootstripe is clearly out
of the
water, and level along it's length. Where do you see something different?

CWM




Bob Crantz September 2nd 06 07:43 PM

new boat
 
A very nice boat.

Congratulations!

Tremendous sized cockpit too!

Glory!



Paladin September 3rd 06 03:55 PM

new boat
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ...
| On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:07:21 -0400, "Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote:
|
|
|
| Looks old, tired and down on her LWL.
|
| The pictures of the boat in the water show the bootstripe is clearly out of the
| water, and level along it's length. Where do you see something different?
|
| CWM

The photos of the boat hanging in the travel lift clearly show the LWL has been
raised about six inches above designed LWL. Just look how far above the turn of the
bilge the damned boot stripe is. Any old dropout from Westlawn can see it. This isn't
rocket surgery, ya know...

Paladin

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Capt. JG September 5th 06 06:59 PM

new boat
 
Thanks!

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:29:25 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,


Nice looking vessel, Jon. Congrats.




Capt. JG September 5th 06 08:39 PM

new boat
 
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her from SF South Beach
Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I raised sails and
headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind died, so I go to
start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing. After some
preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you don't have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to think about adding).
Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car (note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said, oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid. Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is. Fortunately, not much vessel traffic where I'm floating,
so I heave-to to a starboard tack (give myself at least some status), open
up the engine compartment, and I go upside down inside the engine, one hand
on a cell phone dying battery, flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk
to the yard so their "mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to
reach the stupid wire. Finally, found it, tightened it, and then she started
no problem. Oh yeah, and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms
either.

Got past the bridge, the wind picked up, so killed the engine and started
sailing again. Got about 20 kts steady wind the rest of the way, mostly port
tack. Finally had to jibe to avoid a tug/barge coming out of the Richmond
area, and the rest was easy, even did a passable job flaking the main before
I got to the dock.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great
shape. I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks,
but there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com






Joe September 5th 06 09:46 PM

new boat
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage


Called the yard back... they said, oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid. Unfortunately,


You did not know where a starter solenoid wire was?

Jon I suggest you take a basic course on engine electrical systems.


What kind of engine is in the boat?
You say "gas" juice..are you saying the boat has an Atomic 4 or some
other type of dangerious gasoline engine?

Joe


Jeff September 5th 06 10:22 PM

new boat
 
Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage


Called the yard back... they said, oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid. Unfortunately,


You did not know where a starter solenoid wire was?

Jon I suggest you take a basic course on engine electrical systems.


What kind of engine is in the boat?
You say "gas" juice..are you saying the boat has an Atomic 4 or some
other type of dangerious gasoline engine?

Joe

Gasoline engines are not dangerous at all. Gasoline engines almost
never blow up. Gasoline itself, however, leaking from a fuel line or
tank, does pose a substantial risk. Especially when the solenoid wire
is loose.

Capt. JG September 5th 06 10:26 PM

new boat
 
I do now. :-) I should have known where it was before I left. I guess we all
learn from our mistakes.

It's a Westerbeke 13hp. I would not buy an A-4, even though they're not bad
engines.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage


Called the yard back... they said, oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid. Unfortunately,


You did not know where a starter solenoid wire was?

Jon I suggest you take a basic course on engine electrical systems.


What kind of engine is in the boat?
You say "gas" juice..are you saying the boat has an Atomic 4 or some
other type of dangerious gasoline engine?

Joe




Capt. JG September 5th 06 10:28 PM

new boat
 
Yup... ST4000. If I didn't have it, it would have been more of a mess. I
also am about to have a remote for it... :-) I really appreciated having it
while flaking the main, especially since the wind was about 15 kts with
higher gusts. Worked great!

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 12:39:35 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

even did a passable job flaking the main before
I got to the dock.


Do you have an autopilot? I probably single hand more than I sail with
crew,
and flaking the main is SOP while coming in on autopilot. I hate trying to
do it while rocking back and forth in a chop. Highly recommended if you
don't have one.




katy September 5th 06 11:30 PM

new boat
 
Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her from SF South Beach
Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I raised sails and
headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind died, so I go to
start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing. After some
preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you don't have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to think about adding).
Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car (note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said, oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid. Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is. Fortunately, not much vessel traffic where I'm floating,
so I heave-to to a starboard tack (give myself at least some status), open
up the engine compartment, and I go upside down inside the engine, one hand
on a cell phone dying battery, flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk
to the yard so their "mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to
reach the stupid wire. Finally, found it, tightened it, and then she started
no problem. Oh yeah, and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms
either.

Got past the bridge, the wind picked up, so killed the engine and started
sailing again. Got about 20 kts steady wind the rest of the way, mostly port
tack. Finally had to jibe to avoid a tug/barge coming out of the Richmond
area, and the rest was easy, even did a passable job flaking the main before
I got to the dock.

Did you really think that a maiden voyage was going to be uneventful?
How naive, Jon. G;ad you made it to harbor safely.

Capt. JG September 5th 06 11:48 PM

new boat
 
I'm a positive person. :-) It was a fun sail.

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her from SF South
Beach Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I raised
sails and headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind
died, so I go to start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing.
After some preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called the
yard where she had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the
like). Oh, it's not our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you
don't have her in neutral (no neutral safety switch on this boat -
something to think about adding). Come back, and we'll look into it... of
course, it's a good hour or so in such light winds, and guess what they
close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think of any reason
this would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a
disconnected wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car
(note for later, put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,
oh, maybe we forgot to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.
Unfortunately, I have no idea where this wire is. Fortunately, not much
vessel traffic where I'm floating, so I heave-to to a starboard tack
(give myself at least some status), open up the engine compartment, and I
go upside down inside the engine, one hand on a cell phone dying battery,
flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk to the yard so their
"mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to reach the stupid wire.
Finally, found it, tightened it, and then she started no problem. Oh
yeah, and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms either.

Got past the bridge, the wind picked up, so killed the engine and started
sailing again. Got about 20 kts steady wind the rest of the way, mostly
port tack. Finally had to jibe to avoid a tug/barge coming out of the
Richmond area, and the rest was easy, even did a passable job flaking the
main before I got to the dock.

Did you really think that a maiden voyage was going to be uneventful? How
naive, Jon. G;ad you made it to harbor safely.




Scotty September 6th 06 12:34 AM

new boat
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the

yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her

from SF South Beach
Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I

raised sails and
headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind

died, so I go to
start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing.

After some
preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called

the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the

like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you don't

have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to

think about adding).

Don't, they're stupid.



Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a

good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think

of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a

disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car

(note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,

oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.

Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is.



Sailing in the wee hours I noticed my nav lights dimming,
went to start the engine ( with the starter batt) and nada.
I also hove to as the battery was too low to trust the AP.
The selenoid wire had broken , right at the terminal end. I
stripped it and put it back on bare wire. Got a terminal 3
days later.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Capt. JG September 6th 06 12:51 AM

new boat
 
Is it? That's nice to know. I think it's discontinued, but that doesn't mean
much. I didn't really check it out much before the purchase... came with the
boat, seems to have the ability to work off the GPS that's also on the boat.
You can see the GPS receiver just to starboard of the outboard in this one:
http://www.sailnow.photosite.com/exc...t-sabre30.html.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:28:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Yup... ST4000.


Hmm. The high-priced spread. Nice.

I just replaced my 26 year old ST1000 with a Simrad unit. I was surprised
to
learn that Raymarine had downgraded the replacement for the ST1000 so I'd
have to order the next larger size, the 2000, to handle my boat's 6800 lb
displacement. Decided I didn't need the bells and whistles of the
Raymarine
unit for my purposes.




Capt. JG September 6th 06 12:52 AM

new boat
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the

yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her

from SF South Beach
Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I

raised sails and
headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind

died, so I go to
start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing.

After some
preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called

the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the

like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you don't

have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to

think about adding).

Don't, they're stupid.


When I called the previous owner to confirm that it didn't have one, he told
me he started the engine a couple of times in reverse. :-}



Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a

good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think

of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a

disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car

(note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,

oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.

Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is.



Sailing in the wee hours I noticed my nav lights dimming,
went to start the engine ( with the starter batt) and nada.
I also hove to as the battery was too low to trust the AP.
The selenoid wire had broken , right at the terminal end. I
stripped it and put it back on bare wire. Got a terminal 3
days later.


I need to replace the lenses.

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Jeff September 6th 06 01:10 AM

new boat
 
Dave wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:22:44 -0400, Jeff said:

Gasoline engines almost
never blow up. Gasoline itself, however, leaking from a fuel line or
tank, does pose a substantial risk.


And lawyers are accused of splitting hairs! So let's play the game. You're
saying that gasoline leaking from the fuel line poses a substantial risk,
but gasoline leaking from the carburetor's float chamber doesn't?

Did you work as Bill Clinton's speech writer in an earlier life?


You didn't recognize the homage to Jaxashby? I guess this was too
subtle for you.


Capt. JG September 6th 06 01:50 AM

new boat
 
According to the manual, the interface "may be used with any radio
navigation system that uses NMEA the 0180, 0181, or 0183 standard," so it
looks like I should be good to go....

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:51:15 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

seems to have the ability to work off the GPS that's also on the boat.


I dunno. The older units used a proprietary protocol called "Sea Talk"
(hence the "ST") and wouldn't understand NMEA (sp???). To interface the
two
required an interface box to convert the Sea Talk back and forth.




Jeff September 6th 06 02:03 AM

new boat
 
Capt. JG wrote:
According to the manual, the interface "may be used with any radio
navigation system that uses NMEA the 0180, 0181, or 0183 standard," so it
looks like I should be good to go....

My previous boat came with the old Nautec Autohelm 5000 auto pilot,
circa 1985. I don't know what inputs it took. I replaced it with a
ST4000 in 1994 and it was certainly NMEA compatible.

Capt. JG September 6th 06 02:10 AM

new boat
 
Kewl.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. JG wrote:
According to the manual, the interface "may be used with any radio
navigation system that uses NMEA the 0180, 0181, or 0183 standard," so it
looks like I should be good to go....

My previous boat came with the old Nautec Autohelm 5000 auto pilot, circa
1985. I don't know what inputs it took. I replaced it with a ST4000 in
1994 and it was certainly NMEA compatible.




Scotty September 6th 06 04:11 AM

new boat
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
have juice, fuel, I called
the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the

like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you

don't
have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to

think about adding).

Don't, they're stupid.


When I called the previous owner to confirm that it didn't

have one, he told
me he started the engine a couple of times in reverse. :-}



yes, but you're too smart to do that.




Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a

good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2

hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't

think
of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must

be a
disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my

car
(note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,

oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.

Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is.



Sailing in the wee hours I noticed my nav lights

dimming,
went to start the engine ( with the starter batt) and

nada.
I also hove to as the battery was too low to trust the

AP.
The selenoid wire had broken , right at the terminal

end. I
stripped it and put it back on bare wire. Got a terminal

3
days later.


I need to replace the lenses.



lenses????



Capt. JG September 6th 06 08:16 AM

new boat
 
Bifocals. I meant the lenses for the running lights.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
have juice, fuel, I called
the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the
like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you

don't
have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to
think about adding).

Don't, they're stupid.


When I called the previous owner to confirm that it didn't

have one, he told
me he started the engine a couple of times in reverse. :-}



yes, but you're too smart to do that.




Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a
good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2

hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't

think
of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must

be a
disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my

car
(note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,
oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.
Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is.


Sailing in the wee hours I noticed my nav lights

dimming,
went to start the engine ( with the starter batt) and

nada.
I also hove to as the battery was too low to trust the

AP.
The selenoid wire had broken , right at the terminal

end. I
stripped it and put it back on bare wire. Got a terminal

3
days later.


I need to replace the lenses.



lenses????





Scout September 6th 06 11:19 AM

new boat
 
True Katy - maidens are never as they appear on the surface!
Scout

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her from SF South
Beach Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I raised
sails and headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind
died, so I go to start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing.
After some preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called the
yard where she had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the
like). Oh, it's not our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you
don't have her in neutral (no neutral safety switch on this boat -
something to think about adding). Come back, and we'll look into it... of
course, it's a good hour or so in such light winds, and guess what they
close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think of any reason
this would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a
disconnected wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car
(note for later, put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,
oh, maybe we forgot to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.
Unfortunately, I have no idea where this wire is. Fortunately, not much
vessel traffic where I'm floating, so I heave-to to a starboard tack
(give myself at least some status), open up the engine compartment, and I
go upside down inside the engine, one hand on a cell phone dying battery,
flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk to the yard so their
"mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to reach the stupid wire.
Finally, found it, tightened it, and then she started no problem. Oh
yeah, and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms either.

Got past the bridge, the wind picked up, so killed the engine and started
sailing again. Got about 20 kts steady wind the rest of the way, mostly
port tack. Finally had to jibe to avoid a tug/barge coming out of the
Richmond area, and the rest was easy, even did a passable job flaking the
main before I got to the dock.

Did you really think that a maiden voyage was going to be uneventful? How
naive, Jon. G;ad you made it to harbor safely.




katy September 6th 06 12:30 PM

new boat
 
Scout wrote:
True Katy - maidens are never as they appear on the surface!
Scout

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her from SF South
Beach Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I raised
sails and headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind
died, so I go to start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing.
After some preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called the
yard where she had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the
like). Oh, it's not our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you
don't have her in neutral (no neutral safety switch on this boat -
something to think about adding). Come back, and we'll look into it... of
course, it's a good hour or so in such light winds, and guess what they
close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think of any reason
this would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a
disconnected wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car
(note for later, put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,
oh, maybe we forgot to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.
Unfortunately, I have no idea where this wire is. Fortunately, not much
vessel traffic where I'm floating, so I heave-to to a starboard tack
(give myself at least some status), open up the engine compartment, and I
go upside down inside the engine, one hand on a cell phone dying battery,
flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk to the yard so their
"mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to reach the stupid wire.
Finally, found it, tightened it, and then she started no problem. Oh
yeah, and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms either.

Got past the bridge, the wind picked up, so killed the engine and started
sailing again. Got about 20 kts steady wind the rest of the way, mostly
port tack. Finally had to jibe to avoid a tug/barge coming out of the
Richmond area, and the rest was easy, even did a passable job flaking the
main before I got to the dock.

Did you really think that a maiden voyage was going to be uneventful? How
naive, Jon. G;ad you made it to harbor safely.



I suppose you have vast experience delving into the matter.....

DSK September 6th 06 01:03 PM

new boat
 
Capt. JG wrote:
...... upside down inside the engine, one hand
on a cell phone dying battery, flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk
to the yard so their "mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to
reach the stupid wire.


Well, look at it philosophically... every small piece of
knowledge is good... it won't be the last time you hang
upside down hugging the engine... hopefully you will learn
all details of the boat's wiring and can correct other
little problems before they so rudely interrupt the fun.


..... Oh yeah, and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms
either.


See what I mean?
Actually disconnected alarms are the best, they never go off
and cause problems & worry.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


jlrogers±³© September 6th 06 01:07 PM

new boat
 
Congratulations. Look's like a nice boat. You've come a long way in ten
years.

--
jlrogers±³©
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Here's a synopsis of Excalibur's maiden voyage from the yard in SF to her
new home...

The maiden voyage was interesting... single-handed her from SF South Beach
Harbor to Richmond. Engine started fine at the dock, so I raised sails and
headed up toward the Bay Bridge. Near the bridge, the wind died, so I go
to start the engine... nada... not even cranking, nothing. After some
preliminary checks, like do I have juice, fuel, I called the yard where
she had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the like). Oh,
it's not our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you don't have her
in neutral (no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to think
about adding). Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a good
hour or so in such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2 hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't think of any reason
this would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must be a
disconnected wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my car
(note for later, put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,
oh, maybe we forgot to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.
Unfortunately, I have no idea where this wire is. Fortunately, not much
vessel traffic where I'm floating, so I heave-to to a starboard tack (give
myself at least some status), open up the engine compartment, and I go
upside down inside the engine, one hand on a cell phone dying battery,
flashlight in my mouth, trying to listen/talk to the yard so their
"mechanic" can direct me, the other hand trying to reach the stupid wire.
Finally, found it, tightened it, and then she started no problem. Oh yeah,
and they didn't reconnect the low-oil and temp alarms either.

Got past the bridge, the wind picked up, so killed the engine and started
sailing again. Got about 20 kts steady wind the rest of the way, mostly
port tack. Finally had to jibe to avoid a tug/barge coming out of the
Richmond area, and the rest was easy, even did a passable job flaking the
main before I got to the dock.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I finally concluded the purchase of a new, used boat. She's a Sabre 30,
Mark II, built in 1983. Except for a few minor problems, she's in great
shape. I'll probably be putting a furler on in the next couple of weeks,
but there's no huge rush as the current setup is pretty easy.

Here are a couple of picture links... on the hard and then me
single-handing to her new home in Richmond, CA.

http://sailnow.photosite.com/excalibur/
http://sailnow.photosite.com/Excalibur_maiden_voyage/

The cockpit is nice... 7'2" :-)

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Joe September 6th 06 02:16 PM

new boat
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Bifocals. I meant the lenses for the running lights.


Me too! Do you have Aqua Signal light?

Let me know where you find lenses.

Joe

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
have juice, fuel, I called
the yard where she
had some engine work done (tune up, oil change, and the
like). Oh, it's not
our fault, maybe you're out of gas (no), maybe you

don't
have her in neutral
(no neutral safety switch on this boat - something to
think about adding).

Don't, they're stupid.

When I called the previous owner to confirm that it didn't

have one, he told
me he started the engine a couple of times in reverse. :-}



yes, but you're too smart to do that.




Come back, and we'll look into it... of course, it's a
good hour or so in
such light winds, and guess what they close in 1/2

hour.

Frustrated, I called the former owner, who couldn't

think
of any reason this
would happen. Never happened to him in 10 years. Must

be a
disconnected
wire, but he's busy at work, and the manual is in my

car
(note for later,
put manual on boat). Called the yard back... they said,
oh, maybe we forgot
to tighten the wire to the starter solenoid.
Unfortunately, I have no idea
where this wire is.


Sailing in the wee hours I noticed my nav lights

dimming,
went to start the engine ( with the starter batt) and

nada.
I also hove to as the battery was too low to trust the

AP.
The selenoid wire had broken , right at the terminal

end. I
stripped it and put it back on bare wire. Got a terminal

3
days later.

I need to replace the lenses.



lenses????





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