Hi all,

I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between 30-35".

I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple of nights now and
then while on a trip. Entertain my family, and friends, and maybe live
there for a week or so.

Can someone give me some leads as to what to look for and what to stay
away from?

Maybe recommend some boats (brand, material, year, model, etc.) to look
for?

Thank you,

I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between 30-35".


I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple of nights now and
then while on a trip. Entertain my family, and friends, and maybe live
there for a week or so.


You didn't mention price range, but....
Generally stay away from US Yachts, O'Day, Siedlemann, Chrysler, Ticon.
That list won't gaurantee a bad boat every time, but they are among the
poorest boats ever built. And that's NOT to say that a C&C, Pearson,
Catalina, Beneteau or the like with be a slam dunk. Condition is
EVERYTHING.
If you're looking for a 1st boat that will sail well and let you test
the waters without spending an arm and a leg, try a Pearson 30, C&C 30
or Catalina 30 and there All three are great all around boats to get
you started. And all three were very successful and so you'll find
plenty to choose from.

RB
35s5
NY

"Praxi" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between
30-35".

Ding! that's a bell going off. I think most would agree that
buying a 30-35' sailboat BEFORE you know how to sail is a
bad idea. Not totaly undoable, but I would strongly advise
to learn to sail FIRST.


I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple of
nights now and
then while on a trip. Entertain my family, and friends,
and maybe live
there for a week or so.

You want a cruising boat. There are 1000s of them. What's
your price range? Sailing area? Will you be solo sailing?



Can someone give me some leads as to what to look for and
what to stay
away from?

Whatever you do, don't listen to the ****** who calls
himself ''Capt Rob''. He knows nothing about boats. He is a
sad troll who is jelious of everything.


Maybe recommend some boats (brand, material, year, model,
etc.) to look
for?



Start here, http://yachtworld.com/boats/index.html.en , look
for 30-35' sailboats.
You will soon be overwhelmed.

Material? Fibreglass, of course.
Year, model? What can you afford?
Brand? Within each brand you will find poor examples,
either by mfg. or neglect from an owner. Each individual
boat must be checked out, inspected thoroughly and then
surveyed before purchase.

Ding! that's a bell going off. I think most would agree that
buying a 30-35' sailboat BEFORE you know how to sail is a
bad idea. Not totaly undoable, but I would strongly advise
to learn to sail FIRST.


ding! The bell going off echoes in Scotty's head. When did he say he
was buying a boat first?



You want a cruising boat. There are 1000s of them. What's
your price range? Sailing area? Will you be solo sailing?

Since he doesn't sail yet, he probabaly can't answer all of these
questions, dopey.


within each brand you will find poor examples,
either by mfg. or neglect from an owner. Each individual
boat must be checked out, inspected thoroughly and then
surveyed before purchase.


Beware of clowns like Scotty, who bought the wrong boat day 1. Start by
crossing off builders who really produced trash....Siedlemann, US
Yachts, Oday, Macgreggor, coronada, and also Irwin is one to generally
avoid.
Note that Scotty, who actually bought a Seidlemann against the advice
of his friends, now has it up on stands, high and dry.

Good luck!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab Rob" wrote

When did he say he
was buying a boat first?

"I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between
30-35".
"

learn to read, dummy.

SV

"I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between
30-35".
"

learn to read, dummy.


Scored kinda low on those SAT's aye, Scotty Potty. Nothing in that
sentence says he's buying a boat before learning to sail. And even if
he went about it that way, it's his business.
Stop trying to protect your sad little world. It's so obvious that the
guy will "start" ahead of you, so just get over it. Along with Capt.
Neal, John Cairns and Doug, you're the king of bad boat choices. Do you
think someone who bought a Mac and THEN a Siedlemann should ever even
be seen in public.
Scott Vermon, you're one pathetic dude. We're sailing tomorrow...so go
polish your boat stands!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Scotty...a guy who likes his boat on LAND!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab Rob" wrote

"I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between
30-35".
"

learn to read, dummy.


I scored kinda low on those SAT's

Yes, and it shows.

SV

Although it might be obvious, you typically want to buy a boat that someone
else has spent a lot of time and money on and no longer wants. A lot of
boats are advertised as "Mexico vet" or "Atlantic vet." While there's
nothing wrong with that, you need to be careful not to buy a boat that's
been "road hard and put away wet" so to speak. Sure, it did it 10 times. Do
you want a boat that's been through that kind of pounding? Depending on what
you're willing to spend, get a survey. It'll likely save you 1000s,
especially since you don't know much about boats. Have a mechanic take a
look at the engine. Your choices of engine are diesel or gas. Most people
prefer diesels, but there's nothing wrong with an A4 if it's in good shape.

The main considerations (and expensive items) are hull quality, standing
rigging, engine, and general maintenance (has it been done or not).
Typically, someone who has done regular maintenance on their boat takes
pride in their boat, and thus the other things fall into line. It's rare
when lack of maintenance by the previous owner equates to few problems with
the other items.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Praxi" wrote in message
oups.com..
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Hi all,

I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between
30-35".

Ding! that's a bell going off. I think most would agree that
buying a 30-35' sailboat BEFORE you know how to sail is a
bad idea. Not totaly undoable, but I would strongly advise
to learn to sail FIRST.


I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple of
nights now and
then while on a trip. Entertain my family, and friends,
and maybe live
there for a week or so.

You want a cruising boat. There are 1000s of them. What's
your price range? Sailing area? Will you be solo sailing?



Can someone give me some leads as to what to look for and
what to stay
away from?

Whatever you do, don't listen to the ****** who calls
himself ''Capt Rob''. He knows nothing about boats. He is a
sad troll who is jelious of everything.


Maybe recommend some boats (brand, material, year, model,
etc.) to look
for?



Start here, http://yachtworld.com/boats/index.html.en , look
for 30-35' sailboats.
You will soon be overwhelmed.

Material? Fibreglass, of course.
Year, model? What can you afford?
Brand? Within each brand you will find poor examples,
either by mfg. or neglect from an owner. Each individual
boat must be checked out, inspected thoroughly and then
surveyed before purchase.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
| Although it might be obvious, you typically want to buy a boat that someone
| else has spent a lot of time and money on and no longer wants. A lot of
| boats are advertised as "Mexico vet" or "Atlantic vet." While there's
| nothing wrong with that, you need to be careful not to buy a boat that's
| been "road hard and put away wet" so to speak. Sure, it did it 10 times. Do
| you want a boat that's been through that kind of pounding? Depending on what
| you're willing to spend, get a survey. It'll likely save you 1000s,
| especially since you don't know much about boats. Have a mechanic take a
| look at the engine. Your choices of engine are diesel or gas. Most people
| prefer diesels, but there's nothing wrong with an A4 if it's in good shape.
|
| The main considerations (and expensive items) are hull quality, standing
| rigging, engine, and general maintenance (has it been done or not).
| Typically, someone who has done regular maintenance on their boat takes
| pride in their boat, and thus the other things fall into line. It's rare
| when lack of maintenance by the previous owner equates to few problems with
| the other items.
|
| --
| "j" ganz @@
| www.sailnow.com

So sez the voice of AnalEze expertise . . .
http://www.body-language.com/item403.htm

Paladin
--have sailboat, will travel.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"Scotty" wrote:

"Praxi" wrote:
I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a boat between
30-35".

Ding! that's a bell going off. I think most would agree that
buying a 30-35' sailboat BEFORE you know how to sail is a
bad idea. Not totaly undoable, but I would strongly advise
to learn to sail FIRST.

Now why would you give out advice like that, Snotty?

I learned how to fly after I bought a Cherokee Arrow. (single engine,
retractable gear, a couple of other extras). I actually bought a second one
with a T-tail. The boys Dad had a Cherokee 6 when I met him.

I got paid for learning how to fly...so don't judge everyone by you personal
yardstick.

LP


I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple of
nights now and
then while on a trip. Entertain my family, and friends,
and maybe live
there for a week or so.

You want a cruising boat. There are 1000s of them. What's
your price range? Sailing area? Will you be solo sailing?



Can someone give me some leads as to what to look for and
what to stay
away from?

Whatever you do, don't listen to the ****** who calls
himself ''Capt Rob''. He knows nothing about boats. He is a
sad troll who is jelious of everything.


Maybe recommend some boats (brand, material, year, model,
etc.) to look
for?



Start here, http://yachtworld.com/boats/index.html.en , look
for 30-35' sailboats.
You will soon be overwhelmed.

Material? Fibreglass, of course.
Year, model? What can you afford?
Brand? Within each brand you will find poor examples,
either by mfg. or neglect from an owner. Each individual
boat must be checked out, inspected thoroughly and then
surveyed before purchase.