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Capt. Rob August 5th 06 02:39 AM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 

Even LISound, as I remember doesn't
get into the 80's very often. BUT



Thom, the LIS has been in the 90's plenty this summer. We start our
daysails later in the day and sail into the evenings because of it.


RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart August 5th 06 03:56 AM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 
Joe,
You sure did ask a lot of the right questions? One of the reason I went
with the small portable with long battery charging leads. Also one of
the reason it wasn't used that much.

An extra battery bank and a 100 Amp Generator/inverter makes sense. Not
cheap tho?




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Edgar August 5th 06 06:30 AM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 
So now you have to carry gasoline aboard and find somewhere to stow the can.
A totally unnecessary extra fire hazard.
Edgar

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Looks like we'll be getting a genset afterall. A Cruiser 32, which was
storm damaged has been bought by my yard after settling with the
insurance. Tiny little Kholer (Sp?) 4K genset will be a gift from the
yard along with an installation. She's all prewired for it and the
platform is ready and waiting. I have mixed feelings about it. It
weighs more than a box of feathers and we have yet to establish that
it's something we really need at anchor. In the slip, hanging out or
working, the a/c is a no brainer luxury. Still, I had to say yes or no
and I imagine this can only bring up the value of the boat with no cost
to me. According to the guy who's putting it in along with a hush box,
we'll barely hear it and no one anchored nearby will. I think he's
right since I can barely hear the genset of the Cruiser 34 that's not
far from us. It's amazingly small and quiet.
So...good news for our Heart of Gold!


RB
35s5
NY




Scotty August 5th 06 01:43 PM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 
What would you expect from someone who doesn't even put a
PFD on a toddler?

Scotty


"Edgar" wrote in message
...
So now you have to carry gasoline aboard and find

somewhere to stow the can.
A totally unnecessary extra fire hazard.
Edgar

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

ups.com...
Looks like we'll be getting a genset afterall. A Cruiser

32, which was
storm damaged has been bought by my yard after settling

with the
insurance. Tiny little Kholer (Sp?) 4K genset will be a

gift from the
yard along with an installation. She's all prewired for

it and the
platform is ready and waiting. I have mixed feelings

about it. It
weighs more than a box of feathers and we have yet to

establish that
it's something we really need at anchor. In the slip,

hanging out or
working, the a/c is a no brainer luxury. Still, I had to

say yes or no
and I imagine this can only bring up the value of the

boat with no cost
to me. According to the guy who's putting it in along

with a hush box,
we'll barely hear it and no one anchored nearby will. I

think he's
right since I can barely hear the genset of the Cruiser

34 that's not
far from us. It's amazingly small and quiet.
So...good news for our Heart of Gold!


RB
35s5
NY






Capt. Rob August 5th 06 02:16 PM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 

What would you expect from someone who doesn't even put a
PFD on a toddler?


Thom didn't put a PFD on a toddler?
(Stupid Scotty doesn't even know who's talking to who! Is Edgar talking
to me? Why woiuld I have a gas can with a built in remote tank? Duh!)


RB
35s5
NY


Joe August 5th 06 06:23 PM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
What would you expect from someone who doesn't even put a
PFD on a toddler?


Thom didn't put a PFD on a toddler?
(Stupid Scotty doesn't even know who's talking to who! Is Edgar talking
to me? Why woiuld I have a gas can with a built in remote tank? Duh!)


You a seperate gasoline tank buildt in? Or is that siomething you will
ad when you install the gen-set?

Joe

RB
35s5
NY



Capt. Rob August 5th 06 07:22 PM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 

You a seperate gasoline tank buildt in? Or is that siomething you will
ad when you install the gen-set?


None of this matters, Joe. I just came back from my yard. It's a Onan E
series diesel genset. I really feel it's too big and heavy, so I'm
looking at possibly selling it off on ebay to pay for something more
suited for my boat. It weighs over 350 lbs and that's without the power
vented cover and fuel assembly.
I wonder what the smallest genset is that could start and run my
A/C...?


RB
35s5
NY


Joe August 6th 06 03:51 AM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
You a seperate gasoline tank buildt in? Or is that siomething you will
ad when you install the gen-set?


None of this matters, Joe. I just came back from my yard. It's a Onan E
series diesel genset. I really feel it's too big and heavy, so I'm
looking at possibly selling it off on ebay to pay for something more
suited for my boat.


No genset is suited for your boat (sorry) but that's just one of the
reasons it's a day sailor and not a cruising vessel.

You can get a shaft PTO driven genset that will work, but you will
have to run your main all the time. Onan is pretty compact and any
diesel genset worth a damn is going to be 300+ pounds. Your main
problem is space no weight so much, you can not go air cooled so you
have to use a marine unit. Do you know of any other 35s5 with a genset?
What do they use?


It weighs over 350 lbs and that's without the power
vented cover and fuel assembly.


Thats nothing! My 7.5kw Lister is around 700lbs

I wonder what the smallest genset is that could start and run my
A/C...?


I would get hatch top AC's and only use them at the dock. Toss them in
the dock box while sailing. Your boat is a day sailor bob, the AC's
and comforts of home are still quite a few steps away on your stepping
stone path of boat ownership.

During the hot weather sail at night. You might learn to enjoy it.
Perhaps some hatch wind scoups would help..It's not that hot in NYC.

To bad you can not use an air cooled unit, nice Duetz set on e-bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/diesel-generator...QQcmdZViewItem.

Joe




RB
35s5
NY



Capt. Rob August 6th 06 12:30 PM

Heart of Gold and the Genset
 

No genset is suited for your boat (sorry) but that's just one of the
reasons it's a day sailor and not a cruising vessel.


Nonsense. It fits easily. I'd like to see if there's anything smaller
and lighter before accepting the weight of two adults in gear that will
be used on rare occasions.


Your main
problem is space not weight so much, you can not go air cooled so you
have to use a marine unit. Do you know of any other 35s5 with a genset?

What do they use?


Space is certainly not the problem. The 35s5 starboard storage under
the cockpit is most of the same space used on three cabin models. It's
huge to the point of being almost rediculous. Right now we have three
sail bags in there, the dinghy (not inflated!), 5 fenders. two tool
kits and a lot of odds and ends that need to be cleaned out. There's
still room for two people to sit and have tea. I have seen other 35s5's
with gensets, but never asked what they were using. I'll look into it.


I would get hatch top AC's and only use them at the dock. Toss them
in
the dock box while sailing.

Our 35s5 already had a nice AC system with heat. Why buy cumbersome
portables?

Your boat is a day sailor bob,

Yup, we bought her for day sailing and short trips. Right boat for the
right usage.

the AC's
and comforts of home are still quite a few steps away on your stepping
stone path of boat ownership.

That's actually a valid point and I think I'd have to be a pretty old
man to want a boat like Redcloud. Not knocking your boat....just not
right for the fast and fun sailing we're doing now with a 23 month old
toddler aboard.

During the hot weather sail at night. You might learn to enjoy it.

Perhaps some hatch wind scoups would help..It's not that hot in NYC.


Last week the heat index was over 100 almost every day. We did find a
nice night in there, but we were one of the only boats out until the
sun dropped.
We're sailing today...looks great out there!


RB
35s5
NY



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