The Irony of the Doug
 

You wanna try to explain the difference between a wing keel
and a hydrofoil to ChuckieM/Krusty/BB? Other than that one
is very heavy and increases stability by use of much lead,
and the other is as light as can be made for the strength
needed?


Doug, we all missed the text where he was comparing the two...or maybe
you think his mention of airplanes also hinted at a comparison? I think
he making a point through sarcasm. Effective if you had a sense of
humor or irony..of which you have niether. I note that you have nothing
to say about....

1) My comments on the wing keel on the 35s5, though you repeated some
of it 40 minutes later!
2) You became silent when I told you I got the 19% wetted surface spec
from Beneteau. E-mail them, you dolt!
3) In a few hours you'll have to admit that the J29 I was on does exist
and I'll even put you in touch with the owner to ask about the bulb.

But Doug never wants to hear anything that might shatter his fragile
ego built around failed sailing dreams aboard his trawler. He must have
been mortified to see that I do indeed have a grasp on how the wing
keel works and I bet he never considered the current/wing issue at
all....most people don't unless they deal with strong currents on a
regular basis.
Standby for the pics of the J29....my 35s5 will also be visible in the
same shot!

Poor Doug....I do like the desperate effort to somehow make it as
though a comparison was made between hydrofoils, wing keels and duck
soup. The guy's a piece of work to be sure!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt" Rob wrote:
Doug, we all missed the text where he was comparing the two...

Not surprising, you miss everything.

So, are you saying that wing keels *don't* make boats faster
by lifting them up?

Which is it, yes or no?

Some of us know, and some of us are amused by your
tap-dancing pretense at knowing.

DSK

The Irony of the Doug II
 

So, are you saying that wing keels *don't* make boats faster
by lifting them up?



That's the discussion and debate you're having with Thom. Now that I
trounced you on every point, you're on that with me? Are you worried
that Thom and I are also the same person.
I guess everyone is after poor Doug!

But to answer your question:
On a boat like the 35s5, DDW, even if the wing did create a lifting
force it would be MORE than nullified by the underside of the keel
drag.

Now go dream about sailing while I actually do it!


RB
35s5
NY

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So, are you saying that wing keels *don't* make boats faster
by lifting them up?


And are you saying that keels don't generate lift at all??? What TYPE
of lift are you talking about? Do you even know?


RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
But to answer your question:
On a boat like the 35s5, DDW, even if the wing did create a lifting
force it would be MORE than nullified by the underside of the keel
drag.


Does it, or doesn't it?
This is one of those answers that attempts to evade
answering. Do you know the answer, yes or no?

It's rather funny that you cannot answer the simple
question, neither can Krusty... while I just posted a link
to a web site that explains wing keels quite clearly. Go
read it, and learn.


Now go dream about sailing while I actually do it!


For a half hour on a bulb keel J-29? Yeah right.

DSK

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So, are you saying that wing keels *don't* make boats faster
by lifting them up?


"Capt" Rob wrote:
And are you saying that keels don't generate lift at all???

Am I saying that? Please use exact quotes.


... What TYPE
of lift are you talking about?

What part of "up" is not clear to you?

DSK

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Does it, or doesn't it?



Doug, you're kidding, right? The 35s5 keel generates lift in either
version. It's a basic component of keel design.
Now, are you asking if the wing of the 35s5 generates lift like plane
wings on a run, the answer is, as little as possible. Berret's wing
sought minimal drag downwind and any effort to turn the wing into a a
real lifting force DDW would induce significant drag. Look HE

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/haulo.jpg

Berret's broad entry for the leading edge at the base is not just about
weight. It's to distribute water flow around the wings and reduce the
plate effect at the base. As I've stated, some folks have altered this
with good results as the leading edge of the keel proves to be a more
important factor on other tacks.

RB
35s5
NY

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Does it, or doesn't it?



"Capt" Rob wrote:
Doug, you're kidding, right? The 35s5 keel generates lift in either
version. It's a basic component of keel design.

That's not the question... did you not understand the word "up"?

Now, are you asking if the wing of the 35s5 generates lift like plane
wings on a run, the answer is, as little as possible.

In other words, they don't make the boat faster by lifting
the boat up? Is that your final answer?



Berret's broad entry for the leading edge at the base is not just about
weight. It's to distribute water flow around the wings and reduce the
plate effect at the base.

??

Are you sure? "to reduce the plate effect" is generally not
a design goal of any foil... otherwise why put an end plate,
in the form a wing, on it in the first place?


... some folks have altered this
with good results as the leading edge of the keel proves to be a more
important factor on other tacks.


??

You're saying that your keel is different on different tacks?

Gee Bubbles, I'm surprised with all your advanced knowledge,
you haven't been tapped to serve as a design consultant on
one of those mega-buck racing yacht designs.

DSK

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What part of "up" is not clear to you?


Capt. Rob wrote:
I don't think you know what "up" means.

Yeah, big time... that's why you are the one who cannot give
a clear answer to a simple question.


... In the world of physics, lift
can be used to generate force in ANY direction. For a plane it's
generally simplified as a force "opposing gravity."


My my, such technical scientific talk! Are you sure than in
the world of physics, they don't use slightly more exact
terms, like the x-, y-, or z-axis?

DSK

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In other words, they don't make the boat faster by lifting
the boat up? Is that your final answer?

In spite of Thom's assertions, drag wins the day. You can't get lift
without the cost of drag and a 35s5 is unable to gain enough velocity
to use such a wing to lift the hull. The 35s5 semi-planes based on the
hull form factor, not the wing. So the final answer is essentially NO.
Any effort to raise the boat my inducing lift on a dead run would be
made useless by lack of velocity combined with drag.

Are you sure? "to reduce the plate effect" is generally not
a design goal of any foil... otherwise why put an end plate,
in the form a wing, on it in the first place?

The wing on the 35s5 is a compromise and it costs performance in most
situations. The plate effect is one of those costs and efforts to
minimize the plate turbulence is certainly a design goal...one of many
for a wing keel.

You're saying that your keel is different on different tacks?

It behaves very differently on different tacks because forces are
distributed differently all the time. Say that 4 times fast!


Gee Bubbles, I'm surprised with all your advanced knowledge,
you haven't been tapped to serve as a design consultant on
one of those mega-buck racing yacht designs.

I only recently (last few months) started learning about keel design.
I'm slowly getting it.


RB
35s5
NY

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In other words, they don't make the boat faster by lifting
the boat up? Is that your final answer?


"Capt" Rob wrote:
In spite of Thom's assertions, drag wins the day.

Can you answer the question without trying to insult others?

... You can't get lift
without the cost of drag

Hmm, seems like I just heard this somewhere...

... a 35s5 is unable to gain enough velocity
to use such a wing to lift the hull. The 35s5 semi-planes based on the
hull form factor, not the wing.

But other boats might? So you're still prevaricating and
tap-dancing?


Any effort to raise the boat my inducing lift on a dead run would be
made useless by lack of velocity combined with drag.


Hmm, lack of velocity... drag... you need to talk to
somebody at the Department of Connecting the Dots.


Are you sure? "to reduce the plate effect" is generally not
a design goal of any foil... otherwise why put an end plate,
in the form a wing, on it in the first place?


The wing on the 35s5 is a compromise

Ya think so?

... it costs performance in most
situations. The plate effect is one of those costs and efforts to
minimize the plate turbulence is certainly a design goal...one of many
for a wing keel.


There you have it folks. One of the reasons for using a wing
keel is to gain an end plate, and yet the keel is designed
to minimize that effect.

More dots that need to be connected, looks like.


You're saying that your keel is different on different tacks?


It behaves very differently on different tacks because forces are
distributed differently all the time. Say that 4 times fast!


I'm not even going to say it once, because you clearly don't
have a clue.

Force are distributed differently on different *points of
sail* but not on different tacks.

Gee an expert sailor is going to get these basic terms
muddled sometimes though. I mean it sure is complicated,
that's why we need an brilliant & experienced sailor like
you to explain how keels and stern platforms work.




I only recently (last few months) started learning about keel design.
I'm slowly getting it.

Do tell.

DSK

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DSK wrote:

In other words, they don't make the boat faster by lifting
the boat up? Is that your final answer?


"Capt" Rob wrote:
In spite of Thom's assertions, drag wins the day.

Can you answer the question without trying to insult others?


What insult? Do you wear dresses?


... You can't get lift
without the cost of drag Hmm, seems like I just heard this somewhere...

Yup, I wrote it 40 minutes before you did this morning.


But other boats might? So you're still prevaricating and
tap-dancing?

So are you saying it's impossible for ANY sailboat to create a lifting
force via a wing keel on a downward leg? Careful now!


Hmm, lack of velocity... drag... you need to talk to
somebody at the Department of Connecting the Dots.


Hey, nice try...but I posted my comments on the WK before you did. 40
minutes later you chirped in about vortexes trying to sound fresh and
pretending you hadn't read what I wrote! Sorry, Doug. The times are
listed in the headers. Raise you hand faster next time and maybe you'll
get the gold star.

There you have it folks. One of the reasons for using a wing
keel is to gain an end plate, and yet the keel is designed
to minimize that effect.

Ahhh. When Doug has no point...make one up! The plate effect is a
result of the wing, designed to maximize windward ability while
reducing level draft. No one designed to "gain" turbulance at the keel
base.


Force are distributed differently on different *points of
sail* but not on different tacks.

Ah! LOL! I see what you tried to do there, but you struck out.
Different tacks do indeed mean different forces on the keel. We don't
sail in a water tank, Doug. There are currents, wave action and even
weight distrubution aboard that will change things.


I mean it sure is complicated,
that's why we need an brilliant & experienced sailor like
you to explain how keels and stern platforms work.


Gee, Doug. Can you show everyone anymore clearly how upset you are that
I grasp all this and own a sailboat? C'mon, give it a try!
Dude, you should have realized that you were gonna lose this one.


RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
So are you saying it's impossible for ANY sailboat to create a lifting
force via a wing keel on a downward leg?

Am I saying that?

I *did* say (because it happens to be the case) in order for
a wing keel to generate enough upward lift to raise the boat
any significant amount, the induced drag from that generated
lift would be greater than any drag savings from lifting the
boat.

Now can we explain the difference between wing keels and
hydrofoils to your buddy Krusty/BB? Maybe these guys can help

http://lancet.mit.edu/decavitator/





Hey, nice try...but I posted my comments on the WK before you did. 40
minutes later you chirped in about vortexes trying to sound fresh and
pretending you hadn't read what I wrote!

Good one.

40 minutes? Go back several years and see what I have said
about wing keels in other discussions.




... The plate effect is a
result of the wing

Is it? Why use a wing then, when an end plate would be much
simpler and create less drag? Why did you say that the keel
is designed to minimize the plate effect?




Force are distributed differently on different *points of
sail* but not on different tacks.


Ah! LOL! I see what you tried to do there, but you struck out.

Really?
Then why did you use the wrong terms?


Different tacks do indeed mean different forces on the keel.

Not on normal sailboats they don't. At least, not in the
real world... maybe in the Matrix it's different.


Dude, you should have realized that you were gonna lose this one.



Explain to us all again about you "win" anybody answers one
of your posts.

Bubbles, you're nuts.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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40 minutes? Go back several years and see what I have said
about wing keels in other discussions.


Golly! So are you the 1st person to understand keels or just the only
one living? Doug, what's so funny is that YOU are the true blowhard
around here. When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!! Golly, Doug. Everyone sure is
impressed. After that it was "I EVEN SKIPPERED A COUPLE." WOW! And now
you're the king of keels! All hail....Douglas King Of Keels!
(C'mon, that was funny, Doug!)

Is it? Why use a wing then, when an end plate would be much
simpler and create less drag?

And wing is create more draft to windward or more "bite" as some say.
DDW it's a drag. Period. Efforts to ease the end plate effect have
resulted in partial bulbs at the base of the wing and wider leading
edges at the base to spread water flow. Basic stuff. But then you knew
all that back in 1792, right?


Really?
Then why did you use the wrong terms?

Seriously? This is what's left of you? Using terms as a point of debate
after you failed to win any points? Sad, Doug.


Not on normal sailboats they don't. At least, not in the
real world... maybe in the Matrix it's different.

So then it's not possible? Then say so clearly!

explain to us all again about you "win" anybody answers one
of your posts.

Doug, you're all in a snit because I actually had more than a clue
about my keel and how it works. You're also ****ed off because I go
sailing on my own boat and my wife would never EVER want a trawler. I'm
sorry for you on those counts, but unless you have SOME point to make,
just go have your fuel polished and leave us to do the sailing.

Ummmm...oh yeah, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
Doug believes that when the sail on a sailboat creates lift, the boat
rises in the air.

Krusty/BB believes that Bobsprit needs help here, so he
rides in like the Lone Ranger.



This link should make poor Doug's head explode like a rotten melon: A
sailboat boat that not only lifts out out of the water due to wings
under the hull, but also manages to overcome all that horrific drag
and go 35 MPH.

http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/models_trifoiler.html


So, you're saying that wings under the hull always lift
boats up? Didn't Bubbles just clearly explain to the contrary?

Oh dear me, nobody can straighten out this muddle!

DSK

The Irony of the Doug -The Return!
 

40 minutes? Go back several years and see what I have said
about wing keels in other discussions.


Capt. Rob wrote:
Golly! So are you the 1st person to understand keels or just the only
one living?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. That's why you can so
easily find direct quotes.

a.... When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!!

Which is the truth.


... After that it was "I EVEN SKIPPERED A COUPLE."

Left something out, didn't you Bubbles?

That's OK, your parents did too.




And wing is create more draft to windward or more "bite" as some say.

Good. That's an excellent and clear scientific explanation:
wing keels bite.

DDW it's a drag. Period.


And that's why Australia 2 was faster off the wind than
Liberty, resulting in her victory in the 1983 America's Cup.



.... Efforts to ease the end plate effect have
resulted in partial bulbs at the base of the wing and wider leading
edges at the base to spread water flow. Basic stuff.

Sure is. Basic gobbledygook.

Maybe those "partial bulbs at the base of the wing" have
something to do with the center of mass of the ballast? Hmm?




Doug, you're all in a snit

Am I?


.... my wife would never EVER want a trawler

So you're saying that your wife is in total control of all
your household decisions and major expenditures?

DSK

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
I arrive in ASA a few eeks ago, and makes an attempt to be at least
somewhat more civil than some previous regulars.

Really? When? Maybe you're thinking of some other usenet group?

Oh wait, you've been an obnoxious jerk other places, too.


... I'm sure everyone here
will thank Doug profusely if some of those characters decided he keeps
invoking their names because he misses them and they come back to
roost for a few more years.


Uh oh, Krusty is threatening me with his phone book again.

DSK

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Doug,

I had to respond once again to your "UP" question. When you sit on a
Kitchen Chair you create a downward force the chair creates a "UP" force
equal to your down force.

Doug, does the chair move up? Of course not. Does it create LIFT? Damn
right it does and in a "UP" direction.

Bye




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Nutsy,

Yes you are starting to get it! Many, many of our ASA friends have not.
_______________________________
I only recently (last few months) started learning about keel design.
I'm slowly getting it.
RB
35s5
NY




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Thom Stewart wrote:
Doug,

I had to respond once again to your "UP" question. When you sit on a
Kitchen Chair you create a downward force the chair creates a "UP" force
equal to your down force.


Sure.
Not equal in all cases though, otherwise chairs would never
tip over or break, nyet?

Doug, does the chair move up? Of course not.

Because you created the down force first.

... Does it create LIFT? Damn
right it does and in a "UP" direction.


But if it had wings, it would go faster.

Actually there is a difference between "upward force" and
lift. You can throw a brick into the air, is that creating
lift? I thought that by asking about 'lift' and 'up'
together in the same sentence, it would be fairly clear what
I meant. Maybe not.

DSK

The Irony of the Doug-Dead and Loving It!
 

Doug,

You're grasping now. Playing word games really won't do it.

I do think you've been Busted.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Thom Stewart wrote:

Doug,

You're grasping now. Playing word games really won't do it.


Did I make up those we sites detailing how wing keels work?

Did I make up that Australia 2 was faster downwind? No,
somebody else brought that up... it was you!


I do think you've been Busted.


At what? Trying to talk sense with Boobsie?


Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Doug,

Trying to talk sense with Nutsy only unmasks your own stupidity. Just as
I'm doing with you.

I didn't post Vacanti Web. I didn't mention end plates.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Thom Stewart wrote:

Doug,

Trying to talk sense with Nutsy only unmasks your own stupidity. Just as
I'm doing with you.


Really?

I didn't post Vacanti Web.

I did

... I didn't mention end plates.


No, Bubbles did... maybe you should review what he said
about them and see if it makes sense to you.

DSK

The Irony of the Doug -The Return!
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
Golly! So are you the 1st person to understand keels or just the only
one living?


When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!!
Which is the truth.


Uh, no it's not. You really don't know how many boats I've sailed, let
alone 1st series hulls. But you're the real blowhard around these parts
and naturaly write, MORE THAN YOU.


That's OK, your parents did too.


Yup, now Doug is forced to use tacky insults. Poor guy.


Good. That's an excellent and clear scientific explanation:
wing keels bite.

Never heard it before? Doesn't surprise me. All you have left now is
lame criticisms of nomenclature.


Maybe those "partial bulbs at the base of the wing" have
something to do with the center of mass of the ballast? Hmm?


I like how you've tried and failed to move this dialogue from my boat
and keel, to race boats. Sorry. The wider section of my keel is
designed to redirect waterflow. But let's agree with you and say that
the shape of the leading edge of the wing makes no matter at all and no
one pays attention to the plate effect, right?



Doug, you're all in a snit


Sure sounds like it. You've posted nothing new or any ideas of your
own. I didn't see you mention leeway from wings due to currents or even
leading edge redirection to lessen plate effect.

So you're saying that your wife is in total control of all
your household decisions and major expenditures?

Nope, but unlike you my wife is in tune with me and certainly wants me
to be happy. You're clearly jealous of me for having such a wife. Most
sailors are as she's quite rare. Meanwhile, you drag your poor wife to
a boat show hoping she'll like the C&C 121. I had to talk my wife out
of the C&C 99 over 6 weeks.
Trawler? Nope...not for either of us. We're not dead yet.



RB
35s5
NY

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When I asked you how many 1st Series boats you had sailed,
the answer was MORE THAN YOU!!!

Which is the truth.


Capt. Rob wrote:
Uh, no it's not. You really don't know how many boats I've sailed, let
alone 1st series hulls.

Really? You mean you lied about how many you've sailed? I'm
shocked, just shocked!

In any event, the ones that I sailed were real boats in real
water & real wind. And I don't particularly feel that
sailing Beneteaus is something to brag about.




Nope, but unlike you my wife is in tune with me and certainly wants me
to be happy. You're clearly jealous of me for having such a wife.

Yeah, just like I'm jealous of your boat, too.

If I'd wanted a Beneteau 35s5, I could have bought one... or
two. I didn't. You figure it out.

DSK

The Irony of the Doug-Dead and Loving It!
 

No, Bubbles did... maybe you should review what he said
about them and see if it makes sense to you.


And I quote....


"The "end plate effect" has been the Achilles heal of the wing design
for many years. By creating a larger leading edge aligned with the
winglets we can redirect water flow around that section. This, in
theory, creates less drag than typically, where a large vortex is
formed beneath and behind the keel."

Gee, I wonder who wrote that. Maybe Doug King of Keels will know?



RB
35s5
NY

The Irony of the Doug-Dead and Loving It!
 

So, you're saying that wings under the hull always lift
boats up? Didn't Bubbles just clearly explain to the contrary?



Nope....I was careful to keep things applied to my boats and the like.
You, on the other hand, have brought cup boats into the discussion
because you've been stomped on every other point. So now the Hobie
comes in and you cry foul. I already challenged you to say that such a
wing could NEVER lift a boat. Never say never, Doug.
You've been trounced from all sides, Oh king of keels!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote:

Ya know, this is really a prime example of just how extremely stupid
Doug can be without even trying.

And please remind me exactly *why* you responded to this thread?

LP

I arrive in ASA a few eeks ago, and makes an attempt to be at least
somewhat more civil than some previous regulars. For some unfathomable
reason, Doug and Scotty can't stop trying to get the old posters they
didn't like to return. If they had half a brain between them they
would simply shut up, move on, and hope that things may be better for
them and the rest of the group from now on. I'm sure everyone here
will thank Doug profusely if some of those characters decided he keeps
invoking their names because he misses them and they come back to
roost for a few more years.

CWM

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Poor Chucky..... his opinion of himself is based entirely on the
fabrications he's made and come to believe. It's truly pathetic.... really.

He made a gross error in judgement and decided to attack me once. I thought
he might be a worthy opponent.... that quickly dissipated as it became
obvious that back-pedalling was his idea of a winning strategy in a battle
of wits.

Chucky has no finesse.... he is truly beneath contempt.

CM-
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:s_bAg.1661$W01.712@dukeread08...

"Charlie Morgan" wrote:

Ya know, this is really a prime example of just how extremely stupid
Doug can be without even trying.

And please remind me exactly *why* you responded to this thread?

LP

I arrive in ASA a few eeks ago, and makes an attempt to be at least
somewhat more civil than some previous regulars. For some unfathomable
reason, Doug and Scotty can't stop trying to get the old posters they
didn't like to return. If they had half a brain between them they
would simply shut up, move on, and hope that things may be better for
them and the rest of the group from now on. I'm sure everyone here
will thank Doug profusely if some of those characters decided he keeps
invoking their names because he misses them and they come back to
roost for a few more years.

CWM

The Irony of the Doug -The Return!
 

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:55:16 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:22:20 -0400, DSK wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:
I arrive in ASA a few eeks ago, and makes an attempt to be at least
somewhat more civil than some previous regulars.

Really? When? Maybe you're thinking of some other usenet group?

Oh wait, you've been an obnoxious jerk other places, too.


... I'm sure everyone here
will thank Doug profusely if some of those characters decided he keeps
invoking their names because he misses them and they come back to
roost for a few more years.


Uh oh, Krusty is threatening me with his phone book again.

DSK

I guess you really are that stupid. I used to think that southerners talked slow
because they were relaxed. I now know that some of them talk slow because they
ARE slow.

CWM



Why thank you for posting that gross generalization. Southerners are
always looking for any bad press that will keep the yankees,
particularly New Yorkers, from coming down and staying. You did say
"some of them" but most yankees will read it too fast to see or
comprehend that.

Frank

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote:

I guess you really are that stupid. I used to think that southerners
talked slow
because they were relaxed. I now know that some of them talk slow because
they
ARE slow.

Hey! I resemble that...er resent...heh

LP watch out, yankee!

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote:
Poor Chucky..... his opinion of himself is based entirely on the
fabrications he's made and come to believe. It's truly pathetic....
really.

I guess I'm too far behind...almost 500 at the moment.

Let's see...kill file bobsprit, scotty and jon and the problem is solved?

LP

The Irony of the Doug -The Return!
 

Krusty must have gotten a new prescription and he feels
good. It will soon wear off just as the other meds did.

SBV


"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Charlie Morgan wrote:
I arrive in ASA a few eeks ago, and makes an attempt to
be at least
somewhat more civil than some previous regulars.

Really? When? Maybe you're thinking of some other usenet
group?

Oh wait, you've been an obnoxious jerk other places, too.


... I'm sure everyone here
will thank Doug profusely if some of those characters
decided he keeps
invoking their names because he misses them and they
come back to
roost for a few more years.


Uh oh, Krusty is threatening me with his phone book again.

DSK

The Irony of the Doug -The Return!
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:t6yAg.1887$W01.1550@dukeread08...

"Capt.Mooron" wrote:
Poor Chucky..... his opinion of himself is based
entirely on the
fabrications he's made and come to believe. It's truly
pathetic....
really.

I guess I'm too big behind...almost 500 at the moment.

Let's see...kill file scotty and jon

you wouldn't dare!

The Irony of the Doug -The Return!
 

"Scotty" wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote:
Let's see...kill file scotty and jon

you wouldn't dare!

PLONK!

LP