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Here you go Joe, some tools you may need for that steel boat. A
little pricey though.

Frank

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st/10...-price&x=4&y=6

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Frank Boettcher wrote:
Here you go Joe, some tools you may need for that steel boat. A
little pricey though.

Frank

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st/10...-price&x=4&y=6

RedCloud uses deisel, therefore nonferrious stricking wrenches are not
needed to inspect my tanks.
However if I were striking bolts loose on a gasoline barge 3K plus per
wrench would seem affordable and a bargain .


I'll stick to Proto, Craftsman, and Mac tools.

Joe

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On 27 Jul 2006 09:03:04 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


Frank Boettcher wrote:
Here you go Joe, some tools you may need for that steel boat. A
little pricey though.

Frank

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st/10...-price&x=4&y=6

RedCloud uses deisel, therefore nonferrious stricking wrenches are not
needed to inspect my tanks.
However if I were striking bolts loose on a gasoline barge 3K plus per
wrench would seem affordable and a bargain .


I'll stick to Proto, Craftsman, and Mac tools.

Joe

Hating those adjustable spanners that are used to adjust shaft packing
glands, I bought a couple of big box wrenches for almost nothing at a
plant closing auction, cut the handles off and I had the nicest set of
packing gland adjusters in the harbor. They were not non ferrous
striking wrenches but they probably had a new cost of several hundred
bucks apiece. When I sold the boat, I meant to get them off, and
forgot.

Frank

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On 27 Jul 2006 09:03:04 -0700, "Joe"
wrote:


Frank Boettcher wrote:
Here you go Joe, some tools you may need for that steel
boat. A
little pricey though.

Frank


http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st/10...8186563?page=1
&rh=n%3A468240%2Cp_4%3AAMPCO&sort=-price&x=4&y=6

RedCloud uses deisel, therefore nonferrious stricking
wrenches are not
needed to inspect my tanks.
However if I were striking bolts loose on a gasoline
barge 3K plus per
wrench would seem affordable and a bargain .


I'll stick to Proto, Craftsman, and Mac tools.

Joe

Hating those adjustable spanners that are used to adjust
shaft packing
glands, I bought a couple of big box wrenches for almost
nothing at a
plant closing auction, cut the handles off and I had the
nicest set of
packing gland adjusters in the harbor. They were not non
ferrous
striking wrenches but they probably had a new cost of
several hundred
bucks apiece. When I sold the boat, I meant to get them
off, and
forgot.


I had some of those striking wrenches, size 2'' - 5''. I
gave them to my buddy who works on steam engines. I had no
idea they were that expensive.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote
Hating those adjustable spanners that are used to adjust
shaft packing
glands, I bought a couple of big box wrenches for almost
nothing at a
plant closing auction, cut the handles off and I had the
nicest set of
packing gland adjusters in the harbor. They were not non
ferrous
striking wrenches but they probably had a new cost of
several hundred
bucks apiece. When I sold the boat, I meant to get them
off, and
forgot.


Bummer.
I've bought a fair amount of stuff at auction too. But I
don't see how to put a box end wrench on a packing gland...
a big tubing wrench, maybe.


Scotty wrote:
I had some of those striking wrenches, size 2'' - 5''. I
gave them to my buddy who works on steam engines. I had no
idea they were that expensive.


Cool huh? Maybe I can get prices like that for mine, except
I really want to hang on to them.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote iforgot.


Bummer.
I've bought a fair amount of stuff at auction too. But I
don't see how to put a box end wrench on a packing
gland...
a big tubing wrench, maybe.


I use a big water pump wrench.

Scotty

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That should read ''water pump pliers''

SV


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
"Frank Boettcher" wrote
Hating those adjustable spanners that are used to adjust
shaft packing
glands, I bought a couple of big box wrenches for almost
nothing at a
plant closing auction, cut the handles off and I had the
nicest set of
packing gland adjusters in the harbor. They were not non
ferrous
striking wrenches but they probably had a new cost of
several hundred
bucks apiece. When I sold the boat, I meant to get them
off, and
forgot.


Bummer.
I've bought a fair amount of stuff at auction too. But I
don't see how to put a box end wrench on a packing
gland...
a big tubing wrench, maybe.


Scotty wrote:
I had some of those striking wrenches, size 2'' - 5''.
I
gave them to my buddy who works on steam engines. I had
no
idea they were that expensive.


Cool huh? Maybe I can get prices like that for mine,
except
I really want to hang on to them.

DSK

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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:04:49 -0400, DSK wrote:

"Frank Boettcher" wrote
Hating those adjustable spanners that are used to adjust
shaft packing
glands, I bought a couple of big box wrenches for almost
nothing at a
plant closing auction, cut the handles off and I had the
nicest set of
packing gland adjusters in the harbor. They were not non
ferrous
striking wrenches but they probably had a new cost of
several hundred
bucks apiece. When I sold the boat, I meant to get them
off, and
forgot.


Bummer.
I've bought a fair amount of stuff at auction too. But I
don't see how to put a box end wrench on a packing gland...
a big tubing wrench, maybe.

Whoops. Should have been "open end" . They were actually combination
and I cut the box end off. Funny looking,big wrenches with short
handles.

Frank


Scotty wrote:
I had some of those striking wrenches, size 2'' - 5''. I
gave them to my buddy who works on steam engines. I had no
idea they were that expensive.


Cool huh? Maybe I can get prices like that for mine, except
I really want to hang on to them.

DSK

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"Scotty" wrote:
I had some of those striking wrenches, size 2'' - 5''. I
gave them to my buddy who works on steam engines. I had no
idea they were that expensive.


Snotty, the "trailer trash" boy... how sad!

LP

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Frank Boettcher wrote:
Whoops. Should have been "open end" . They were actually combination
and I cut the box end off. Funny looking,big wrenches with short
handles.

Those are the best kind.

Many people would be amazed at how many of those 36" pipe
wrenches have the handle sawed off. Much more practical, and
if you need more leverage you can always use a cheater...
heck that's what I mostly use box ends for...

DSK

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I've bought a fair amount of stuff at auction too. But I
don't see how to put a box end wrench on a packing gland...
a big tubing wrench, maybe.


Dave wrote:
Only thing I've ever found that works is a couple of pipe wrenches.
Those stuffing box wrenches they sell just don't cut the mustard.

The cheap ones are almost impossible... the jaws are not
square nor parallel, and they don't lock worth a durn.

BTW the packing gland shouldn't really take that much
muscle, you use antisieze on the threads right? ;)

I would not like to see somebody working around a packing
gland with pipe wrenches (a Stillson might be better)
because it would be too easy to bang up the shaft.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Cheap wrenches have no place on a boat. Measure your gland nuts and get two
decent wrenches that fit. Pipe wrenches and Stillsons will surely wreck the
nuts and then you will have to pull the shaft to fit new ones.
Edgar

"DSK" wrote in message
...
I've bought a fair amount of stuff at auction too. But I
don't see how to put a box end wrench on a packing gland...
a big tubing wrench, maybe.


Dave wrote:
Only thing I've ever found that works is a couple of pipe wrenches.
Those stuffing box wrenches they sell just don't cut the mustard.

The cheap ones are almost impossible... the jaws are not
square nor parallel, and they don't lock worth a durn.

BTW the packing gland shouldn't really take that much
muscle, you use antisieze on the threads right? ;)

I would not like to see somebody working around a packing
gland with pipe wrenches (a Stillson might be better)
because it would be too easy to bang up the shaft.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"Edgar" wrote:
Cheap wrenches have no place on a boat.


Cheap tools... in the sense of ones that will not perform
their function... have no place anywhere people are trying
to get things done.

If you like to cut your knuckles & waste time, then they're
fine.

... Measure your gland nuts and get two
decent wrenches that fit. Pipe wrenches and Stillsons will surely wreck the
nuts

Pipe wrenches are more likely to, Stillsons less so IMHO.
But you can get a tighter grip & more leverage in tight
places with a sawed-off Stillson than almost anything else.

... and then you will have to pull the shaft to fit new ones.


Depends on where the chewed-up spot is. The worst that is
likely to happen IMHO is that you'll knock it somewhat out
of balance, cause a hot spot, and raise a large burr that
will make it harder to repack (the burr will catch & tear at
the packing material... ask me how I know).


Dave wrote:
What utter nonsense. If I were a professional mechanic it would be one
thing. But to buy premium tools for something I do once a year at most
would be just plain nuts.


I'm not sure that's what Edgar was saying... now if Bobsprit
went in for doing any sort of mechanical or electrical work,
of course he would buy only the most expensive designer
yuppie tools, the ones with the best advertising.

OTOH anybody with the skill to *use* a particular tool in
the first place can probably chose one that is very good
from a low-cost source... flea markets, for example.

DSK

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Pipe wrenches are more likely to, Stillsons less so IMHO.


Dave wrote:
Not sure I follow why this would be the case. Can you explicate?

The adjustable jaw on a Stillson is flat to match the flats
of the nut; and is also more rigid to the handle but it
pivots to tighten on the nut. A pipe wrench's adjustable jaw
is almost free-floating and is rounded to grab a pipe, if
you don't get it set just so, or pull it at a slight angle,
it will jump off and bang the crap out of everything in the
neighborhood.

Of course, when you want to work on pipes... or something
that's really stuck bad... and don't care about leaving a
smooth surface behind you, a big-ass pipe wrench is the real
deal.

DSK

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Dave wrote:
Hmm. IIRC the ones I used had a flat (but toothed) adjustable jaw.

I've seen ones with a small pattern tooth, and some old ones
that had a grip pattern like knurling. But never seen a
Stillson with big teeth like a pipe wrench.


... The
adjusting mechanism is like a regular pipe wrench, however.

It's somewhat different, the Stillson jaw is captive on two
bars with the adjustment screw between them.

If you turn it over, a Stillson makes a better hammer too

;)

DSK

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I said 'decent ones that fit'
You do not need premium tools because it is doubtful if any other nuts on
your boat are as big as those gland nuts so the wrench will not be used
often. Suitable ones for that are cheap enough.
If a prospective purchaser of your boat saw gland nuts vandalised by use of
pipe wrenches he would ask himself what else you might have cut corners on
to save the odd dollar and walk away from your boat.
Edgar


"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 21:29:52 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote:

Cheap wrenches have no place on a boat. Measure your gland nuts and get
two
decent wrenches that fit. Pipe wrenches and Stillsons will surely wreck
the
nuts and then you will have to pull the shaft to fit new ones.

What utter nonsense. If I were a professional mechanic it would be one
thing. But to buy premium tools for something I do once a year at most
would be just plain nuts.

Ya wanna feel self-satisfied and important about what you use, be my
guest. Huff and puff a little.

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Edgar wrote:
If a prospective purchaser of your boat saw gland nuts vandalised by use of
pipe wrenches he would ask himself what else you might have cut corners on
to save the odd dollar and walk away from your boat.

Maybe so. I'm rather critical myself of machinery that looks
chewed around the edges by improper use of tools.


That's why, when I use a pipe wrench or vise grips on some
piece of fine precision machinery, I take a small mill file
& emory cloth to the flats when I'm done. Dresses them up
better than new. I also carry small cans of spray primer.

;)

I only wish somebody would invent a vise grip to get hold of
the inside of an Allen head bolt.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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My favorite bit is an easyout. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Edgar wrote:
If a prospective purchaser of your boat saw gland nuts vandalised by use
of
pipe wrenches he would ask himself what else you might have cut corners
on
to save the odd dollar and walk away from your boat.

Maybe so. I'm rather critical myself of machinery that looks chewed around
the edges by improper use of tools.


That's why, when I use a pipe wrench or vise grips on some piece of fine
precision machinery, I take a small mill file & emory cloth to the flats
when I'm done. Dresses them up better than new. I also carry small cans of
spray primer.

;)

I only wish somebody would invent a vise grip to get hold of the inside of
an Allen head bolt.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"Capt. JG" wrote:

My favorite bit is an easyout. :-)

Of course you would, gay boy...did you learn that in the gay "hot tubs?"

LP