The industry standard is 12 lead.


Bob, this troll failed because my wife is actually a nurse at a leading
heart hospital. They use 9-10 leads. If you want to ease off on the
googling, try picking up of a copy of Brunner and Suddarth's Textbook
of Medical-Surgical Nursing. Placement is shown with 9 leads. Which
lead is the best indicator, Bob?

Kinda silly. This is like your efforts to google up a background of
sailing. No "smackdown" or "Kaboom." Just sort of embarassing for you.
You've fallen far, my friend.

G'night.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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The industry standard is 12 lead.

Besides the Frank and 3 lead AVL the industry standard is 12 lead:

http://www.cvrti.utah.edu/~macleod/b.../labnotes/ecg/


Using a 9 or 10 lead each set their own morphological parameters and each
require a whole new set of learning. I'm sure you know this, right? Google
"inverse problem" and "cardiac surface potentials".




Bob, this troll failed because my wife is actually a nurse at a leading
heart hospital.

That hospital is not a leading heart hospital (check out the Cleveland
Clinic sometime) and you wife is an entry level nurse.

They use 9-10 leads. If you want to ease off on the
googling, try picking up of a copy of Brunner and Suddarth's Textbook
of Medical-Surgical Nursing.

That's a nursing book. It's for nurses.


Placement is shown with 9 leads. Which
lead is the best indicator, Bob?

12 leads, it is used throughout the industry. Let's "Google" 9 lead ECG and
see what comes up:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/013...lance&n=283155
whoops!

http://ehs.umbc.edu/CE/12-LeadECG/Multi-LeadMedics.html In all fairness 9
lead is mentioned, but where is the 10 lead you spoke of? hmmm????????

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
9 leads mentioned here as a modified 3 channel holter, but no 10 leads. 12
lead still the gold standard!

http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php...l2n1/chest.xml
St Francis recommends 12 lead here! Ooops!

http://www.stfrancishospitals.org/De...agei d=P00198
Oh no! St Francis calls out for 12 lead again!


AND OH MY GOD! OH NO!!!!!!! ST. FRANCIS ON LONG ISLAND WANTS NURSES THAT
CAN READ 12 LEAD ECG'S ONLY!!!!!!!!

http://8.7.96.79/work_with_us/detail.cfm?id=4

Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: K1
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing, toileting,
hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning patients. Selected
technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's, arrhythmia detection,
vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P - 11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn


THERE WE HAVE IT. Suzy's textbook says 10, er, 9 lead and the standards for
ST Francis is 12 lead - says so on their Long Island web page. sO WHICH IS
IT?




Kinda silly. This is like your efforts to google up a background of
sailing. No "smackdown" or "Kaboom." Just sort of embarassing for you.
You've fallen far, my friend.


SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAJOR BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SMACKEROOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't own a boat and I am not a nurse!

one more time:

MAJOR SMACKEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BWAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GASP

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

The industry standard is 12 lead.

Besides the Frank and 3 lead AVL the industry standard is 12 lead:

http://www.cvrti.utah.edu/~macleod/b.../labnotes/ecg/


Using a 9 or 10 lead each set their own morphological parameters and each
require a whole new set of learning. I'm sure you know this, right? Google
"inverse problem" and "cardiac surface potentials".




Bob, this troll failed because my wife is actually a nurse at a leading
heart hospital.

That hospital is not a leading heart hospital (check out the Cleveland
Clinic sometime) and you wife is an entry level nurse.

They use 9-10 leads. If you want to ease off on the
googling, try picking up of a copy of Brunner and Suddarth's Textbook
of Medical-Surgical Nursing.

That's a nursing book. It's for nurses.


Placement is shown with 9 leads. Which
lead is the best indicator, Bob?

12 leads, it is used throughout the industry. Let's "Google" 9 lead ECG
and see what comes up:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/013...lance&n=283155
whoops!

http://ehs.umbc.edu/CE/12-LeadECG/Multi-LeadMedics.html In all fairness 9
lead is mentioned, but where is the 10 lead you spoke of? hmmm????????

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract 9
leads mentioned here as a modified 3 channel holter, but no 10 leads. 12
lead still the gold standard!

http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php...l2n1/chest.xml
St Francis recommends 12 lead here! Ooops!

http://www.stfrancishospitals.org/De...agei d=P00198
Oh no! St Francis calls out for 12 lead again!


AND OH MY GOD! OH NO!!!!!!! ST. FRANCIS ON LONG ISLAND WANTS NURSES THAT
CAN READ 12 LEAD ECG'S ONLY!!!!!!!!

http://8.7.96.79/work_with_us/detail.cfm?id=4

Category: Patient Support Staff
Department: K1
Title: Med/Surg Nurse Extender
Responsibilities: Provide direct patient care including bathing,
toileting, hydration, nutrition, ambulation, turning and positioning
patients. Selected technical skills include phlebotomy, 12 lead EKG's,
arrhythmia detection, vital signs, and glucose monitoring. Documentation
of patient activities.
Requirements: H.S. Diploma required. Previous hospital experience or
Certified Nursing Assistant preferred.
FTE: Part Time
Shift:Evenings, 3P - 11P, including alternate weekends
Location: Roslyn


THERE WE HAVE IT. Suzy's textbook says 10, er, 9 lead and the standards
for ST Francis is 12 lead - says so on their Long Island web page. sO
WHICH IS IT?




Kinda silly. This is like your efforts to google up a background of
sailing. No "smackdown" or "Kaboom." Just sort of embarassing for you.
You've fallen far, my friend.


SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAJOR BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SMACKEROOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't own a boat and I am not a nurse!

one more time:

MAJOR SMACKEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

BWAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GASP

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Crantz,

You really do know your cardiology. What do you do for a living?

Lloyd