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Scotty wrote:
Doug is doing fine

Thanks Scotty

That's what I thought too!

DSK

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Jealousy is my guess



It's just a minivan, Doug. Don't be jealous.




The Kia is just a minivan

The Sienna is a Toyota.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:30:14 -0400, "Scotty"
wrote:

''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot,
with any degree of
credibility, comment on the courage of fellow sailors'


Hey that's my copywrite! But you can use it anytime to hammer
Boobspit.

And a number of my friends have or are thinking about moving from sail
to power, with trawlers being the boat of choice. They haven't
necessarily given up on sailing, just on the practicality of owning a
large sailboat given their individual circumstances. One, in Boca
Raton, lives on a canal on the wrong side of a couple of fixed
bridges. Wants a boat he can keep at his house, rigged and ready.
This is the guy who taught me to sail when we were both teenagers.
His decision makes sense to me. Other similar stories. Doug's
probably just as rational, but if not it would be only an opinion and
none of my business anyway.

Frank

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DSK wrote:
Walt wrote:

Ok, I have to claim ignorance. Where is this? A sailing resort that
rents Lasers and Hobie Waves? Tell me more.

Bitter End Yacht Club. It's at the eastern end of Virgin Gorda, open the
to trade winds and sheltered water of Drake Sound. I think the sailing
end of it is tapering off due to lack of public interest, although it's
a fine place to sail or windsurf & they have everything from an Express
37 9costs extra), J-24s (free), Lasers, Vanguard 15s, Hobie Getaways and
Waves, and a variety of kayaks, windsurfers etc etc. It's also not a bad
place to go snorkeling.

Sounds nice. Although I could *buy* a pair of new Lasers for the cost
of a week's stay. Oh well, if you have to ask...

I've been hoping a sailing resort would pop up on the Gulf coast...

There used to be one in the Keys (Rick's Place), but Rick and Mary got
out of the business. If you hear of one drop me a line.


So I take it you you don't have the Johnson 18 anymore?

Nope, it has reluctantly gone to a good home.
Right now I'm looking for
something like a Melges 24 only cheaper (and hopefully a bit less labor
intensive). Maybe one of these:

http://tinyurl.com/zqxpx
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/High-...QQcmdZViewItem

Hey, you're the high bidder. Too bad the reserve isn't met.

Wouldn't you have to pay double for the slip for one of those? That
would factor into the TCO, no?

//Walt

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Walt wrote:
Sounds nice. Although I could *buy* a pair of new Lasers for the cost
of a week's stay. Oh well, if you have to ask...


Oh, it's not quite that bad. And at one point in time, my
wife would rather have had a new Laser of her own than spend
a week getting pampered, nowadays we have different priorities.



I've been hoping a sailing resort would pop up on the Gulf coast...


There used to be one in the Keys (Rick's Place), but Rick and Mary got
out of the business. If you hear of one drop me a line.


There are several "schools" which are basically resorts but
none have as nice a fleet, and none are in the trade winds
(man, it's easy to get spoiled down there).


http://tinyurl.com/zqxpx
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/High-...QQcmdZViewItem


Walt wrote:
Hey, you're the high bidder.

Yeah but will it last?

... Too bad the reserve isn't met.


There was another Stiletto 27 on Ebay a few weeks ago where
the high bid was considerably higher, and more than I'd pay,
and still didn't meet the reserve. This one has been for
sale asking $15k for a while, plus it's fairly close to us.
Don't know how it will end up.

Wouldn't you have to pay double for the slip for one of those? That
would factor into the TCO, no?


It should, but then you'd have to admit to all those uppity
multihull sailors they're twice the boat.... In this case,
it would live on a trailer in a friend's back yard right on
the creek near our marina.

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Motor Trend just joined The Washington Post in calling the Sedona
better than the Sienna. That's just about every major publication
dropping the Sienna to 3rd place now.

RB
35s5
NY

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And a number of my friends have or are thinking about moving from sail
to power


Any thinking of just selling their sailboats and buying a good rock
tumbler and maybe also maybe take up playing the banjo???
Cuz that's what it means to give up sailing. You don't compromise by
buying a trawler. Compromise would be a Fisher 37 or a Nauticat. A
trawler means you GAVE UP SAILING.
Period. And spare me the crap about sailing dinks around. Doug doesn't
do it anymore. If you haven't time for a sailboat, you haven't time for
a trawler and a dink!
Your friends are as gay as Doug.


RB
35s5
NY

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Doug, The Stiletto I told you I used to see on the water is still on
the hard at the marina down the street from my marina. I saw it last
week. It's buried behind other boats.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Motor Trend just joined The Washington Post in calling the Sedona
better than the Sienna. That's just about every major publication
dropping the Sienna to 3rd place now.



The Wall Street Journal just did a feature on minivans. The Kia Sedona
didn't even get mentioned.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And a number of my friends have or are thinking about moving from sail
to power


Any thinking of just selling their sailboats and buying a good rock
tumbler and maybe also maybe take up playing the banjo???
Cuz that's what it means to give up sailing. You don't compromise by
buying a trawler. Compromise would be a Fisher 37 or a Nauticat. A
trawler means you GAVE UP SAILING.
Period. And spare me the crap about sailing dinks around. Doug doesn't
do it anymore. If you haven't time for a sailboat, you haven't time for
a trawler and a dink!
Your friends are as gay as Doug.


Time is the most precious commodity. If you are putting your time into a
sailboat, your time is missing from something else.

For most, you included, sailing is a few hours escape from life. It is far
from being life itself as is an arcade game or some other distraction.

What moment sums up your life?

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Bob Crantz wrote:
The Wall Street Journal just did a feature on minivans. The Kia Sedona
didn't even get mentioned.


That's because it sounds French

DSK

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On 18 Jul 2006 15:43:21 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


And a number of my friends have or are thinking about moving from sail
to power


Any thinking of just selling their sailboats and buying a good rock
tumbler and maybe also maybe take up playing the banjo???
Cuz that's what it means to give up sailing. You don't compromise by
buying a trawler. Compromise would be a Fisher 37 or a Nauticat. A
trawler means you GAVE UP SAILING.
Period. And spare me the crap about sailing dinks around. Doug doesn't
do it anymore. If you haven't time for a sailboat, you haven't time for
a trawler and a dink!
Your friends are as gay as Doug.


Fairly sure I never mentioned time as an issue, but I'll let them know
what you think. Sure they will be as concerned about your opinion as
I am.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:30:14 -0400, "Scotty"

wrote:

''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot,
with any degree of
credibility, comment on the courage of fellow sailors'


Hey that's my copywrite! But you can use it anytime to
hammer
Boobspit.


Well, I asked you if I could use it.

You didn't say no. ;)


Scotty.....''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot,
with any degree of
credibility, comment on the courage of fellow sailors''

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote

And a number of my friends have or are thinking about
moving from sail
to power, with trawlers being the boat of choice. They
haven't
necessarily given up on sailing, just on the practicality
of owning a
large sailboat given their individual circumstances. One,
in Boca
Raton, lives on a canal on the wrong side of a couple of
fixed
bridges. Wants a boat he can keep at his house, rigged
and ready.
This is the guy who taught me to sail when we were both
teenagers.
His decision makes sense to me. Other similar stories.
Doug's
probably just as rational, but if not it would be only an
opinion and
none of my business anyway.


I've always found trawler people to be more like sailors
than powerboaters. They will give you ''right of way'', with
a friendly wave. They tend to be more quite at anchor than
your normal PBer.

Bob**** is all about image. He thinks his image of a sailor
is cool. Maybe some day he'll wake up to reality.


--
Scotty.....''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot,
with any degree of
credibility, comment on the courage of fellow sailors''

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In article ,
Bob Crantz wrote:

Time is the most precious commodity. If you are putting your time into a
sailboat, your time is missing from something else.

Not true! Time spent sailing doesn't count againt your life.

For most, you included, sailing is a few hours escape from life. It is far
from being life itself as is an arcade game or some other distraction.

What moment sums up your life?

I don't speak for "most," only for myself... It is no escape. It is
life. The alternative is not worth considering. You've been away from
it too long.



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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob Crantz wrote:

Time is the most precious commodity. If you are putting your time into a
sailboat, your time is missing from something else.

Not true! Time spent sailing doesn't count againt your life.

"Time spent climbing is not subtracted from your life."


For most, you included, sailing is a few hours escape from life. It is far
from being life itself as is an arcade game or some other distraction.

What moment sums up your life?

I don't speak for "most," only for myself... It is no escape. It is
life. The alternative is not worth considering.

There are plenty of alternatives. Some are even considered superior to
sailing by others.


You've been away from
it too long.

For me for now it is an escape, something for "fun".

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:35:29 -0400, "Scotty"
wrote:


"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:30:14 -0400, "Scotty"

wrote:

''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot,
with any degree of
credibility, comment on the courage of fellow sailors'


Hey that's my copywrite! But you can use it anytime to
hammer
Boobspit.


Well, I asked you if I could use it.

You didn't say no. ;)


Scotty.....''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot,
with any degree of
credibility, comment on the courage of fellow sailors''




All yours.

Frank

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:10:31 -0500, Frank Boettcher
wrote:

On 18 Jul 2006 15:43:21 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


And a number of my friends have or are thinking about moving from sail
to power


Any thinking of just selling their sailboats and buying a good rock
tumbler and maybe also maybe take up playing the banjo???
Cuz that's what it means to give up sailing. You don't compromise by
buying a trawler. Compromise would be a Fisher 37 or a Nauticat. A
trawler means you GAVE UP SAILING.
Period. And spare me the crap about sailing dinks around. Doug doesn't
do it anymore. If you haven't time for a sailboat, you haven't time for
a trawler and a dink!
Your friends are as gay as Doug.


Fairly sure I never mentioned time as an issue, but I'll let them know
what you think. Sure they will be as concerned about your opinion as
I am.


RB
35s5
NY


Whatever was I thinking. Of course I'll not bother them with this.
To offer this opinion to this group of individuals with their sailing
resumes and life accomplishments, and to let them know that it came
from a LIS day sailor who never leaves the Sound, who spends his non
sailing hours as a yard errand boy, a marine junk peddler on ebay, and
an incessant troll merchant in this group would be disrespectful at
the very least. They would rightfully question my sanity.

Frank

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Bob**** is all about image. He thinks his image of a sailor
is cool.


Kowabunga, Dude! Exactly right.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in

"Time spent climbing is not subtracted from your life."


What goes up , must come down.

Amen!

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

I don't speak for "most," only for myself... It is no
escape. It is
life. The alternative is not worth considering. You've
been away from
it too long.


I haven't got my boat in the water yet this year. Damn I
miss her. But, I've gone to a lot of picnics and get
togethers that I've missed, and been missed at, the last
few years. Hooked back up with my old riding buddies too,
what a blast. Went on a cruise with friends. Did some long
overdue home improvements.

I guess my point is that there's more to life than sailing.

That said , I can't wait to get back out on the water. ;)

Scotty

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"Scotty" wrote in message n

I guess my point is that there's more to life than sailing.

That said , I can't wait to get back out on the water. ;)

Well said Scotty.....

CM

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DSK wrote:
This was one of the warm-up races, with the college sailors.
I bet a few people in this group will instantly recognize
where this place is.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...35692614puwYVp

Looks like North Sound in the BVIs.

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BEYC = Bitter End Yacht Club, BVI

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:
This was one of the warm-up races, with the college sailors.
I bet a few people in this group will instantly recognize
where this place is.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...35692614puwYVp

Looks like North Sound in the BVIs.

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BEYC = Bitter End Yacht Club, BVI .

The BEYC is in the North Sound but it ain't in the photo. :-)

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The north sound may not be but the boats are from the Bitter End.

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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BEYC = Bitter End Yacht Club, BVI .

The BEYC is in the North Sound but it ain't in the photo. :-)

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Ouch!

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:10:31 -0500, Frank Boettcher
wrote:

On 18 Jul 2006 15:43:21 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


And a number of my friends have or are thinking about moving from sail
to power


Any thinking of just selling their sailboats and buying a good rock
tumbler and maybe also maybe take up playing the banjo???
Cuz that's what it means to give up sailing. You don't compromise by
buying a trawler. Compromise would be a Fisher 37 or a Nauticat. A
trawler means you GAVE UP SAILING.
Period. And spare me the crap about sailing dinks around. Doug doesn't
do it anymore. If you haven't time for a sailboat, you haven't time for
a trawler and a dink!
Your friends are as gay as Doug.


Fairly sure I never mentioned time as an issue, but I'll let them know
what you think. Sure they will be as concerned about your opinion as
I am.


RB
35s5
NY


Whatever was I thinking. Of course I'll not bother them with this.
To offer this opinion to this group of individuals with their sailing
resumes and life accomplishments, and to let them know that it came
from a LIS day sailor who never leaves the Sound, who spends his non
sailing hours as a yard errand boy, a marine junk peddler on ebay, and
an incessant troll merchant in this group would be disrespectful at
the very least. They would rightfully question my sanity.

Frank

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The north sound may not be

???? The North Sound is in the photo. What I said was the BEYC was
not.

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Well, ok then. :-)

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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The north sound may not be

???? The North Sound is in the photo. What I said was the BEYC was
not.

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"Bob Crantz" wrote:

Time is the most precious commodity. If you are putting your time into a
sailboat, your time is missing from something else.

Amen, brother! Can I quote you on the above?


For most, you included, sailing is a few hours escape from life. It is far
from being life itself as is an arcade game or some other distraction.

What moment sums up your life?

Good question...let me think about it.

LP

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"Lady Pilot" wrote .

What moment sums up your life?

Good question...let me think about it.


screwing Kneel in the v-berth of his Craponado 27?

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Never happened... he discovered that LP is a guy.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Lady Pilot" wrote .

What moment sums up your life?

Good question...let me think about it.


screwing Kneel in the v-berth of his Craponado 27?

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In ,
Capt. JG typed:
Never happened... I discovered that LP is a guy and loved it.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Lady Pilot" wrote .

What moment sums up your life?

Good question...let me think about it.


screwing Kneel in the v-berth of his Craponado 27?

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Before....or after ?


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Never happened... he discovered that LP is a guy.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Lady Pilot" wrote .

What moment sums up your life?

Good question...let me think about it.


screwing Kneel in the v-berth of his Craponado 27?

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Fortunately, I have no idea.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Before....or after ?


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Never happened... he discovered that LP is a guy.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Lady Pilot" wrote .

What moment sums up your life?

Good question...let me think about it.


screwing Kneel in the v-berth of his Craponado 27?

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The north sound may not be

Ringmaster wrote:
???? The North Sound is in the photo. What I said was the BEYC was
not.


I'd say that you an Jon should both get points for
recognizing the place, unprompted... unfortunately I am not
the one who gives out points...

DSK

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I spoke to him while he was out here, but we didn't get together. I'm sure
he's around somewhere... :-)

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:14:13 -0400, DSK wrote:

unfortunately I am not
the one who gives out points...

Speaking of which, anybody heard from Bart? Last I heard he was off to
CA, but that was some time ago.

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I'd say that you an Jon should both get points for
recognizing the place, unprompted... unfortunately I am not
the one who gives out points...

I thought the prize for a correct answer was a new Annapolis 30.

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I'd say that you an Jon should both get points for
recognizing the place, unprompted... unfortunately I am not
the one who gives out points...

Ringmaster wrote:
I thought the prize for a correct answer was a new Annapolis 30.


If I had two of them, it would be.

DSK

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I'd be willing to split one.

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
I'd say that you an Jon should both get points for
recognizing the place, unprompted... unfortunately I am not
the one who gives out points...

Ringmaster wrote:
I thought the prize for a correct answer was a new Annapolis 30.


If I had two of them, it would be.

DSK