The glaring truth is you've placed your child in danger and are totally
oblivious of basic, common sense safety protocols underway!

The cockpit of that vessel is totally devoid of safety gear!

The photo flies in the face of your claims to sailing safety and seamanship!

The only "safety" item is an untethered, solid doughnut of plastic that
would be useless in an emergency!!

You are a dock-side diva of ignorance!!

Shame on You!!

CM-

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Toddlers + open transom sailboat + sudden storms + no life jacket =
negligent homicide!


Wow, first I don't own a 35s5 and now it's an open transom sailboat!!!!
Wowee zowee!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:xWfqg.130541$771.119617@edtnps89...
The glaring truth is you've placed your child in danger and are totally
oblivious of basic, common sense safety protocols underway!

Sailing, ... like life itself, is about having fun!!



The cockpit of that vessel is totally devoid of safety gear!

So what?


The photo flies in the face of your claims to sailing safety and
seamanship!

Safety and seamanship are two completely different things.



The only "safety" item is an untethered, solid doughnut of plastic that
would be useless in an emergency!!

What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance!


Regards

Donal
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What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance!


Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas
to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance!


Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas
to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him!

Mooron should become traffic warden. I.m sure that he would draw great
satisfaction from the fact that he was earning commission whilst saving the
rest of us from the dangers of traffic congestion.


Regards


Donal
--

Donal wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance!


Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas
to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him!

Mooron should become traffic warden. I.m sure that he would draw great
satisfaction from the fact that he was earning commission whilst saving the
rest of us from the dangers of traffic congestion.


Regards


Donal
--

Let be the first to wish you a happy 4th of July Donal.
You get off for the day?

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance!


Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas
to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him!

Mooron should become traffic warden. I.m sure that he would draw
great
satisfaction from the fact that he was earning commission whilst saving
the
rest of us from the dangers of traffic congestion.


Regards


Donal
--

Let be the first to wish you a happy 4th of July Donal.
You get off for the day?

What's so special about the 4th of July? Is that the day that you
celebrate your recent military victories??



Regards


Donal
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Bob,

An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A
life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat
should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of
boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties.

Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and
without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life
Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather.

Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ.

I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written
without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being
enforced.


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I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written

without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being
enforced.


Of course, Thom, and the heat is a real factor just as important as any
other. Thomas will wear his harness in quiet conditions and NO
LIFEJACKET if Suzanne or I are with him on very hot days. He can't fall
off the boat with the harness and he could be hurt by the heat with a
jacket on, no doubt. We know someone that this happened to and Suzanne
says children are at a very high risk for heat stroke.
For Mooron and Bob to suggest a child needs to wear a PFD at all
times...it's not only ignorant, we've never observed anyone who does
that. It's just not possible, let alone smart.
But even on a hot day, if the boat is moving and has us working, he'll
need to wear the PFD. I have spoken to a LOT of parents about this and
in severe heat the PFD presents it's own dangers, which we'll limit
with good hydration for starters. The other thing we're being careful
with is sun exposure. We're trying to sail early in the day or in the
early evening. Until Thomas is older, we're making sailing the most
positive experience possible for him. So far, so good!


RB
35s5
NY

Thom,

A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the
child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's a
good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a
greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty rare
for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a
circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this is
not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think of a
situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child,
however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both
children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the child
to determine when or when not to wear a PFD.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Bob,

An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A
life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat
should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of
boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties.

Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and
without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life
Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather.

Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ.

I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written
without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being
enforced.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma

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Capt. JG wrote:
Thom,

A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the
child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's a
good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a
greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty rare
for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a
circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this is
not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think of a
situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child,
however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both
children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the child
to determine when or when not to wear a PFD.


Robert is just making excuses. The kids rule on Roberts watch, they
scream it's hot, and un-confortable, that spongebob sucks and they
throw a fit and toss the PFD's on deck.

Hot...Bull****. We grew up on the waters from as early as I can
remember, and it's a hell of a lot hotter here, and we had to wear
lifejackets (those bright orange mae west types) As we became better
swimmers we were allowed to use ski belts while sking. You just did it,
and you did not dare to take them off.

Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father.

Joe




--
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Bob,

An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A
life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat
should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of
boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties.

Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and
without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life
Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather.

Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ.

I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written
without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being
enforced.


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http://community.webtv.net/tassail/HTMLTutoralPractise